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5 Weeks in Colombia, Where Should I Go? 5 Weeks in Colombia, Where Should I Go?

12-14-2018 , 02:16 PM
Sorry to read that Columbia isn't living up to expectations...I'm guessing the food in Columbia really pales compared to food / restaurant options in Mexico City, which I hear is a great city for foodies.

Overall how would you compare traveling costs in Columbia compared to Mexico?

Regarding Peru: If you're only going to be in Peru for 2-3 weeks I'd suggest shortening your time in Lima and spending more time elsewhere (specifically the Cusco / Pisac / Sacred Valley area), and/or scheduling your time in Lima at the end of your trip. If you do decide to check out Lima, feel free to PM me for some great airbnb recommendations (Cusco as well). Two suggestions:

The VIP seats on the tourist bus company Cruz del Sol are ridiculously comfortable--full recline, TVs for each seat, etc.

Without question the highlight of my trip was doing an off-road (dirt bike) motorcycle tour of the Sacred Valley and a second motorcycle tour of Colca Canyon near the city of Arequipa.
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12-14-2018 , 02:47 PM
Well, to be fair I've only been in Bogotá and Medellín so far. Bogotá is ok, but I hate the weather and CDMX is just way better. Medellín I could see myself living in, but Poblado while interesting, was gringo central and I don't like being around too many dudes that look like my dad who are only there to bang 20 year olds. Laureles is pretty cool, but even still I can think of about 7 neighbourhoods I'd rather live in in CDMX.

I'm more excited to check out el Eje Cafetero, Tayrona, Valle do Cocora, etc. They all look pretty awesome and I think where Colombia really shines.

Regarding travel costs. They are roughly even. The nice areas of Bog/Med are similar to CDMX in terms of costs for an AirBNB (which I use 100% of the time, so I can't comment on the hostel or hotel scene). Super easy to find a breakfast or menu of the day place for $3-5 in either place. Entertainment options seem evenly priced as well. I haven't noticed a difference at all in costs. If you visit Cancún or places like that in México, then it's a different story.

Both cities are really cheap for air travel almost anywhere. The thing I miss in Colombia compared to México is that it's really hard to take buses anywhere. Everything is way up in the mountains so usually you're looking at a minimum 5 hour trip even to nearby places. From CDMX, there are probably 20-30 really interesting towns/cities to visit all within a 5 hour bus trip.

Yes, I'm thinking about doing about a month in Perú. Will maybe do a max 1 week in Lima and then move on. I really want to spend a lot of time in Cusco, Arequipa, and around Lago Titicaca. Thanks for the advice and I'll probably hit you up on AirBNB recs. Usually I've been spending $25-40 per night, so nothing too extravagant, but usually you can get a pretty nice 1BR in a solid area in Colombia for that price.
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12-14-2018 , 05:25 PM
Do you know anything about Iquitos or some of the other Amazon areas? I'd like to check it out, but nothing too extreme. I saw a 4d3n package for Iquitos that looked interesting.
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12-14-2018 , 10:53 PM
I'm in that exact same price range for airbnbs as yourself, have great recommendations for Lima and pretty good ones for Cusco.

I didn't travel to any of the Amazon areas so can't give specific recommendations. Based upon where you wrote you wanted to spend time (Cusco, Arequipa, and Lago Titicaca) the only downside to Iquitos is it's so far away. Manu and Tambopata area would be geographically much closer to where you'll be. My understanding is that certain areas might be better (or worse) depending upon whether it's dry or rainy season when you'll be there, so weather might be a factor to be considered.

Are you planning on experiencing ayahuasca or doing a San Pedro ceremony while in Peru?
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12-15-2018 , 04:20 AM
Yah, I should probably look at an Amazon experience closer to the areas I'm staying to make travel much easier.

I hadn't thought about Ayahuasca or San Pedro at all. I briefly remember reading about it in one of your TRs. I think I remember you mentioning that you really need a strong meditation practice to get the most out of it. Is that correct? Unfortunately, I've lapsed a bit on the meditation front and have probably only managed about 10 sittings of 15 minutes each over the last 3 months. Do you still think it would be safe/worth it in my case?
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12-15-2018 , 12:21 PM
Dubmnjoy000 is the guy to ask about mediation and ayahuasca, maybe he'll chime in & give you his $0.02. "Is it safe/worth it?"...evidently he had an amazing experience.

For a couple of reasons I didn't do ayahuasca when I was in Peru, but I did do a San Pedro Ceremony in Pisac which I recommend; PM me if you want a referral to the guy I did it with.
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12-15-2018 , 01:03 PM
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Dubmnjoy000 is the guy to ask about mediation and ayahuasca, maybe he'll chime in & give you his $0.02. "Is it safe/worth it?"...evidently he had an amazing experience.
I was just linked to this thread.

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I think I remember you mentioning that you really need a strong meditation practice to get the most out of it. Is that correct? Do you still think it would be safe/worth it in my case?
Ayahuasca is indeed one hell of a journey - like literally, your demons will come out strong af - and a dip into nirvana - literally as well, the bliss and flow of love is unparalleled

Here is my TR about my journey in the Sacred Valley ; PM if you want more details on who to contact :

https://medium.com/@jeansergebaril/b...wn-9f0123584e1
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12-17-2018 , 11:12 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into it a bit more and will hit you guys up for a referral if I go through with it.
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12-17-2018 , 11:23 PM
Pretty interesting story to share.

I'm not really the mongering type, I've done it twice in my life. I prefer to just meet girls via Tinder and get occasional sex that way. I've been having tons of flakes in Colombia which is killing my motivation to put in any more effort. Everyone always raves about how epic mongering is in Medellín so I figured I'd give it a try. Found a cute 19 year old that's my type (very GFE), so I booked her for an hour.

Session went very well. Decided I'd probably see her again once before I leave Medellín. I saw her during the afternoon and she hit me up about 5 hours later. Saying stuff like "that was incredible", "what are you doing now?". I told her I'd love to see her again, but I'm not super rich so it's a very occasional thing for me. She says that's ok I don't care about the money.

So she agreed to come over at 1AM and stays until about 9PM the next day. She has an absolutely insatiable appetite, can take one hell of a pounding and wants to go all the time. Obviously I want to see her again so I asked her if she wants to do an overnight trip to Santa Fé de Antioquia later this week and she agreed. Feels like an absolute dream to have a hot 19 year old with skills wanting to hang out and have sex all day. Was thinking about going to Cartagena on the 20th, but now I'm staying another week in Medellín.
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12-18-2018 , 01:16 AM
how much did u give her? it's all about the el centro casas. u get half an hour for 35k or 40k. great value.
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12-18-2018 , 01:19 AM
since uve given the hookers a try u might as well check out the blow too. just 10k for a little baggie. your hooker gf probably knows where to pick some up.
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12-18-2018 , 01:49 AM
Gave her 150k for an hour in the afternoon. Then later on when she spent 20 hours at my place, gave her 25k for taxi money and she was fine with it. Big difference is that you can find reviews and FB profiles for most of these girls so you know it's gonna be a great time if you do your homework. In the casas, I'm sure the performance is probably mediocre at best most of the time, with an occasional diamond in the rough.

I've only tried blow once and probably won't go out of my way to try it again. Hooker gf smokes a ton of pot though. We smoked in my AirBNB and one of the neighbors ratted to the owner and I got a message an hour later. Hopefully I won't be liable for any fees.

She basically wouldn't let me rest and kept jumping on me about every hour so I'm probably good on the sex front and will just recuperate for Thursday. Maybe I'll check out a casa before I leave just for the novelty of it.

Last edited by Fossilkid93; 12-18-2018 at 01:54 AM.
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12-18-2018 , 06:44 AM
yah 200k is sort of a standard rate for 'toto la noche' so it sounds like you got great value for your money. presumably you bought her some food and whatnot as well. id recommend giving her like 200k for the over night trip as well. those sort of hooker - gf hybrid experiences are what make Colombia such a great country.
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12-18-2018 , 06:45 AM
The thing is girls in Colombia are legitimately just whoring to put themselves through school or take care of their family. It's not like N.A. where they are just doing it for a drug habit and they are gross. There are tons of extremely attractive prostitutes in South America. A lot of them are just part time / freelancers, not hard core working girls.
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12-18-2018 , 10:27 AM
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Gave her 150k for an hour in the afternoon. Then later on when she spent 20 hours at my place [...]
Nice tr Fk93 -- is COL like Costa Rica where prostitution is legal and regulated?
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12-18-2018 , 11:50 AM
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yah 200k is sort of a standard rate for 'toto la noche' so it sounds like you got great value for your money. presumably you bought her some food and whatnot as well. id recommend giving her like 200k for the over night trip as well. those sort of hooker - gf hybrid experiences are what make Colombia such a great country.
Nah, I did a lot of "research" on a forum I found. Basically a ton of TRs and reviews of experiences with FB links. That's how I found the girl to pick me up from the airport and the 2nd girl.

150k+taxi for an hour is fairly standard for most girls, but a lot are asking 200k or 250k now. One guy said my girl wouldn't even accept less than 200k from him, so he didn't see her. Neither of the 2 girls even quoted me a price, just took what I handed them and didn't even count it. Some girls might accept 300k for toda la noche, but even there 400k seems like the standard. If a girl only takes 200k, then she's cutting you a deal.

Yesterday I kept dropping hints that the girl could leave at 3 or 4, but she wanted to stay with me until 9. I leave my apartment the 20th and am getting a new place soon until the 27th. She was giving me pointers on where to get a new place "make sure it allows smoking", "get one in Envigado so I can see you easier". I think she genuinely just wants to hang, smoke pot, and get ****ed.

I'm not gonna give her anything for the overnight trip. I'll by her tickets to Santa Fé (10k bus each way) and a couple meals while there, and throw another 50k for her other transportation. 95% sure she's not gonna mind and will keep wanting to see me.

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The thing is girls in Colombia are legitimately just whoring to put themselves through school or take care of their family. It's not like N.A. where they are just doing it for a drug habit and they are gross. There are tons of extremely attractive prostitutes in South America. A lot of them are just part time / freelancers, not hard core working girls.
Yah, this seems correct. This girl is 19 and has a young daughter. Lives with her mom and sisters. Apparently she can just leave and make money or hang out with friends or earn money whenever. She wasn't even checking her phone much or wondering about her daughter, then finally left at like 9PM. Maybe if she has to do it a few more years she'll become more jaded.

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Nice tr Fk93 -- is COL like Costa Rica where prostitution is legal and regulated?
Don't know for sure. As I mentioned, I don't do it too often so I'm not too caught on the legalities of it all. But everyone seems to mention it a lot here and all the hotels/apartments know it exists so at the very least it's decriminalized.

Last edited by Fossilkid93; 12-18-2018 at 11:56 AM.
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12-19-2018 , 12:32 AM
What exchange rate are you getting for US dollar?

Online calculators say exchange rate is roughly 3,200 peso = $1.00 U.S., and you’re telling me super hot young prostitutes are charging less than $10.00 for an overnight stay??

I’ve never paid for sex, but the above numbers can’t be right.
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12-19-2018 , 03:09 AM
I think you read something wrong.

PPG was saying you could go to a casa and stay with a girl for 20 minutes for ~30k ($10 USD).

Toda la noche (overnight stay) is usually 300k to 500k ($100-$167).
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12-19-2018 , 03:15 AM
EDIT: NVM
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12-19-2018 , 05:38 PM
Just booked an evening in Santa Fe de Antioquia with the hookergf, leaving tomorrow afternoon. I was slightly worried that she would cut contact after I basically gave her nothing for the last time, but she's super excited. She even wanted to leave Medellín earlier so we could max our time there.

I've usually been spending ~$30/night on AirBNBs, but decided to splurge and get a nice hotel room w/jacuzzi for $90. I'm beyond amped for this trip. The sex was incredible the last night she stayed with me and the town looks gorgeous from the few pics I've seen and everyone in Medellín always recommends it.
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12-20-2018 , 02:59 AM
Prostitution is legal in Colombia, and drug possession is decriminalized. It's basically heaven on Earth.
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12-22-2018 , 09:38 PM
Update with hookergf:

The hookergf and I had a 2.5 hour bus ride at 2PM yesterday so I took a bit of dramamine b/c I heard Colombian buses can be brutal and I can get motion sickness at times. Got to our destination, Santa Fe, at about 5PM, checked in to our hotel, and she wanted to score some pot. So she asked around and eventually found a hookup. She had told me earlier pot is "very expensive" in Santa Fe, and she paid like $4.50 for 2 blunts.

We were just planning to smoke a bit before Dinner so we sat together in the hammock on my balcony. After about 3 tokes, I started having an insane trip and it was starting to scare the F out of me. Later I found out that dramamine and pot is a dangerous combo and can induce acid-like trips. So we're in the hammock and I have no ****in idea what's going. I wasn't even sure how I was responding to her, especially in Spanish. I would realize like 4 seconds after something happened "oh I just did that, didn't I?" Somehow my instincts took over and I pulled up her shirt and started kissing her breasts and then making out with her.

Somehow I stood up and we were back in the bedroom. I don't even remember how, but all of a sudden our clothes were off and were laying down together in bed. I think I realized how ****ed I was and probably couldn't perform, so I decided to just go down on her. I did this for quite a while although I have zero clue how long. After that I went back up to kiss her and normally I would be ready to penetrate her, but it felt like a truck hit me so all I could do was curl up on the side of her and try to rest a bit. Then I started tripping the **** out. I had this super paranoid phase where I thought that maybe she'd drugged me, maybe I was gonna die, I felt something on my back and I thought maybe she was taking my kidneys (thanks thread for implanting that idea), and at one point she was talking on the phone and I thought she was plotting something.

Then I went through a deja vu phase where she was talking to me, but I could have sworn everything she said she had already told me verbatim before. So then I was freaking out that I was living in some sort of movie where I would never be able to break out of it and live a normal life again.

She was actually super sweet during the whole thing. Telling me to drink coke every now and then and eventually giving me food. She was also cuddled up next to me and I think she probably tried like 3 times to turn me on, but obviously I wasn't moving. Eventually I felt like I had a slight grasp on reality again, and she saw me sit up a bit and started kissing and caressing me. For some reason this time I was finally super turned on. So eventually I'm inside her, but the sensations were super weird and different all over and I was terrified I'd cum early (usually my control is impeccable), so I pulled out like 4 times early. Eventually I got used to it and was able to go for a long time and it was like transcendental. The sensations weren't normal and at one time it was like everything else stopped and all I knew at that point was the sensation of her pussy. No idea how long that lasted, if you told me 30 minutes or 3 hours I'd believe both made sense.

After that we rested a bit and once I woke up from that, I was more or less normal, but felt a little hangover-y. We had sex in the jacuzzi, in the bed, the hammock, eventually it was morning. We explored the city a bit, eventually had to head back to Medellín.

She's really fun to hang out with and great in bed. She was really sweet when I was sick and had every opportunity to snoop around my stuff while I was sick or pocket a bit of extra change, or even ask for a gift or something, but she hasn't done any of it. I will continue to keep my guard up, but she seems like a nice girl and I'm thoroughly enjoying myself.

Update:
She finally left a little bit ago at 8PM. So we ended up spending about 54 hours together. Today we basically just laid in bed all day having sex, smoking pot, and watching movies. Main annoying thing is that she smokes a ****load of pot, and I like to partake a little bit, but then I just get really tired. Super enjoyable time with her and pretty unique experience on Thursday night. I am thinking I'll probably leave Medellín on Dec. 27, it's highly tempting to just spend another week or 2 here, but then I'd probably have to sacrifice seeing something else really cool in Colombia and maybe meeting someone new.

I paid her bus tickets ($3 each), taxis ($6 each), a lot of pot ($10), a couple meals ($5-7 each), and that's it. She never asked for anything extra.
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12-29-2018 , 06:13 PM
Crazy story about the weed+dramamine...I assume you've heard stories of people who've been drugged by hookers and such in Columbia w/ something called "Devil's Breath" aka Scopolamine?

Definitely got lucky that she didn't take all your stuff & bolt.
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12-29-2018 , 07:36 PM
Yes, I've heard those stories. She had already spent 1 night with me before and I left pocket change and other small items of value out just to test her, and she left everything alone. If I give her a bit of money to buy pot or something she always gives me the change even when it's only like a buck or 2. So I had more trust in her than some complete rando I was spending the night with for the first time. In my paranoid state though I was fearing the worst, but she mostly just cuddled me the whole time I was freaking out.

She came over again on Wednesday and just left a little bit ago, so almost 72 hours here. I guess she just like hanging out, smoking pot, ****ing, and watching movies with someone who treats her well. Doesn't seem overly concerned about making money.
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12-30-2018 , 08:19 AM
what are you eating mostly? when I'm in Colombia I'm all about the half chicken. great value for your money.
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