People in Bogota are quite friendly. Standards for speaking Spanish are generally pretty low. Most girls will tell you they're too embarrassed to speak to you in English if they perceive your Spanish to be better than their English, and their judgement of each is skewed toward the humble side. The weather is fine. It's basically like September all the time, which is only annoying if you spend enough time there to miss having seasons.

I've lived in both cities and I think there's a huge difference.

I think the poker will be ok provided it runs. I rarely get the chance to play live PLO, so I'm pretty excited and PLO games are rarely bad (too easy to convince yourself to gamble).

I also don't think the trip hinges on getting laid or having great poker either. Colombia looks like a very interesting country and I'll still have a good enough time checking out places like Guatapé, Tayrona, Cartagena old town (for a couple days max), or chilling on some beaches. I think Bogotá and Medellín will at least have enough to offer to hold my own for a couple days. Regardless, I'm always really interested in being able to spend a month+ in a new place and get an idea of what it might be like living there. Even if the main cities aren't the most interesting I'd be shocked if I felt like I'd wasted my time after I left.

I'm not too worried about the English thing, in fact I prefer it like that. Most of the Mexican girls I met had great English so I barely got a chance to practice my Spanish. I'd like to really immerse myself in the language this time.

As for the weather, I've lived in some **** climates (Midwest USA, Montreal), so I doubt Bogotá will bother me at all. The only thing that might suck is if it's raining constantly. November is the 4th rainiest month so it's possible.

Of course but the end result is the same, yeah?

Argentines in BA have incredibly close lifelong friendships, making it very hard for an outsider to make friends or in this case a good local wingman to break the ice. That's why so many travelers and expats in BA all tend to meet up/ do cool **** together more than any other city I've traveled to or lived in. The expat scene is very special in BA.

Colombians in Bogota are mainly transplants coming from all over the country in search of work. It means theyre more receptive to strangers and your odds of getting laid go up, yeah? Except that dancing and drinking in Colombia is probably more important than your looks or personality is if you want a one night stand.

I don't think that's it. Buenos Aires just has a really toxic dating culture and if you're not acting like an ******* then girls don't even think you're interested in them. Colombians are just... normal.

I would expect English to be less common in Bogota than D.F., so you will have more of an opportunity to work on your Spanish. There is also a club in Luckia casino and it is located in a big party / nightlife district for Bogota's middle class. On the weekends the streets are packed full of partiers and there is some reasonable security as well so it is a pretty safe scene. There are dozens of bars and clubs within a three block radius of the casino.


IIRC poker at Luckia starts around noon and runs until late in the morning.

Another thing is ATMs. A lot of ATMs have 600,000 (or lower) caps and 10k fees which is brutal especially if you are paying another fee to your bank. I think Banco Pichincha was the one that I was using which had 1M cap and no fees but make sure to shop around or you will end up paying through the nose. Typically just using the ATM is the best way to get ahold of foreign currency.

Thanks for the intel. I use Schwab Debit Card, and there are no currency conversion fees and they reimburse ATM fees.

I started using ColombianCupid and it's been by far the easiest to get responses from hot women of any country I've been in (USA, Canada, México, France, New Zealand). México is super easy too, but Colombian women are more attractive so like 50% are worth firing off a canned opener too and the response rate is like 75%. Hopefully there aren't too many flakes, but I think CC tends to be more serious than Tinder so I don't think it will be too difficult to meet a cute girl almost every night. How successful I am converting those into sex remains to be seen, but Colombia is supposedly pretty difficult for ONS's.

Here are some of the top candidates so far. I like skinny girls without plastic surgery so I think Bogotá will be a better location for me than Medellín b/c a lot of the profiles I see from there the girls are operated on (and some with fake butts which I find pretty disgusting).

one thing u should know is if you do any walking around, cross walks are just an area where you can walk across the road, they do not impose any obligation on cars or motorcycles to stop for you, and they won't.

Thanks for the tip. I remember watching a YT video of a guy walking around Medellín showing some of the sites and him pointing out that you're putting your life in your hands each time you cross the street, especially near corners.

Fossil has spent a lot of time in Mexico, I'm sure he'll adapt to Latin American traffic

Haha yah, Ciudad de México is madness. They don't believe in lanes they just go wherever the F they want. They are somewhat reasonable with allowing pedestrians to cross and respecting bikers though.

So far, after a couple days on ColombianCupid, these are my top prospects. I'm chatting with all on WhatsApp and we have tentative plans to meet up when I arrive next Thursday. Colombians are notoriously flaky so I'd be happy to have 2 successful meets. Although from what I've read online CC seems to be more serious than Tinder, so maybe flake rate will be way down. I think I'll sign up for Tinder+ 2 days before I leave and just swipe right on everyone and have a few girls set up that way. Goal is to meet 4-5 girls the first week and maybe have someone who wants to show me around the city during the weekend or during the day in the middle of the week.

So far I only have my flight to Bogotá booked on Thursday and 1 week in an AirBNB. Flights are super cheap even if not booked in advance so I'll have to decide if I want to stick around in Bogotá for a few weeks or get to Medellín after the first week ends.

Girl #2 is 41

do you have your flight out of the country booked? the airline may ask to see proof of onward travel before allowing you to board in Mexico.

No, but I might just book something on one of those flight rental sites.

its no big deal. you can even show up to the airport early and try to check in without it, then buy it at the airport online if they ask to see it. colombian immigration won't care.

Girl #1 is ...

#1.

1,3,4,2 but the 40yr old is impressive.

Good for you.

Girl #1 is amazing. If those are real then her body is a definite 10 in my book b/c I like skinny girls.

I'm amped to start meeting girls, I only wish they were as easy to get in bed as SEA. Colombian girls are a bit difficult so I might have to put in more legwork. Most of them at least seem cool so it's not the worst thing in the world hanging out with a hot girl discovering a new city.

Matched with this girl on Tinder and she's offering to "hang out" with me for an hour for $45.



This girl's a bit thicker than my ideal, but spends time living in CDMX/Bogotá and wants to travel together in December in Colombia. So hopefully we hit it off when we met and then I will have a travel buddy to check out some new areas of Colombia.



The middle in post 34 and far right in post 39 (same girl) has been sending me messages in the mornings and calling me lindo (cute), so hopefully she'll be DTF when I arrive.

I decided I'll stay in Bogotá for at least the first 2.5 weeks. I found plenty of stuff to keep me occupied. I think I'm gonna do an intensive Spanish course for 1 or 2 weeks that also includes cultural outings with the group. I'll probably have a salsa teacher come to my place and teach me a bit of salsa for an hour a day (it's like $8/hour). If there is enough PLO going at Luckia Casino then I'll probably be doing that quite a bit too.

It's been pretty crazy between Col. Cupid and Tinder. I have about 12 #s on WhatsApp of really cute girls and another 12 that I was interested in seeing, but lost interest b/c of better matches and ended up deleting from my phone. I'm not really sure how I'll have time to meet them all, I told most of them we should grab a drink soon after I get there. I guess I should probably expect a few flakes so maybe 12 is a solid # for the first week. It seems super easy to add another girl or 2 to the mix daily on Tinder if needed.

I'd say Tinder in Bogotá is pretty comparable to CDMX in terms of ease, maybe slightly better b/c Colombian girls are hotter, but OTOH Mexican girls seem more interesting culturally, more well-traveled, and better educated. In either city you could date 4-5 cute girls per week without too much effort on Tinder. This coming from a guy who had so so results in Lyon, France and in Omaha, almost very few matches, let alone non whales. So Latin America is way more interesting in terms of girls. Not sure how much having decent Spanish (at least in messages) plays into it, but I'm sure it's at least a slight positive.

There's one girl in Bogotá that I met many months ago on a language exchange site. We've Skyped 5-6 times to practice our languages and also chatted off and on on WhatsApp. Lately it's been getting more flirty and she's really excited to see me. She offered to pick me up at the airport, but my flight gets in at like 7AM and I think I'd rather get into my AirBNB and rest a couple hours. So I offered to meet up at noon for lunch and hang out for the day. So I have a lot better "in" with her than some of the girls who I exchange like 4 pointless messages with on Tinder and get their #s. I have a feeling the flake % might be high among them. In CDMX I'd say it's only about 10% flakes, pretty rare.

But I'm pretty excited to land in Bogotá. Hopefully the weather cooperates a bit. November is like the 4th rainiest month, but I get a break every now and then.

the weather should be fine, I was in Bogota at this time last year and don't remember it being excessively rainy. u get one free meal per session if you are playing PLO at Luckia, they have a great restaurant, solid options like steak or salmon

That’s good news, I love both steak and salmon. Now it just comes down to how often PLO runs. I suppose I’d play some NLHE too, but only if there were a couple droolers at the table.

After 1.5 days, 1st impression of Bogotá is that it's good, but not great. I don't really like what I've seen of Zona T, but el centro is decent and there are some cool areas between there and Chapinero. I walked for about 7 hours with a friend and liked some things I saw.

Still, I'd say it's a definite downgrade from CDMX (which I loved almost at first site). Colombia seems much rougher in general and even the nicer areas can't compare to Reforma, Polanco, or Condesa for me. The food seems like it's also gonna be complete ****, which is rough after spending so much time in México.

I also didn't see any 8+s in 7 hours of walking around. I'm sure the nightlife spots are packed with them, but still I was expecting to see some out in public.

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It didn't end up being so difficult sleeping with my first Colombiana.

Met the girl from post 34 (middle) and post 39 (far right).

We had a date set up for coffee at 3PM and she texted me a couple topless pics out of the blue at noon. She probably weighs less than 100 lbs. but has a great body and nice curves for her frame. Needless to say I was pretty excited for the date.

She was about 15 minutes late and we met in front of a mall and her body looked amazing in a tight sweater and face was cute but slightly worse than the photos. We walked a bit to a café and it felt pretty natural initiating keno. At the café I sat next to her in a booth and we were getting a bit more physical and she was resting her head on my shoulder.

I didn't want to kiss her in the booth b/c it wasn't very private and planned to head to a nearby park, but it started raining heavily. She told me she woke up at like 5AM and was tired so I said she could come back to my place to rest and she agreed without hesitation. So we took an Uber back and headed up to my apartment.

She looked out my window b/c it has a decent view and then I came up and held her and kissed her soon after. We moved it to the bed and she just instantly took off her sweater and bra and we laid down together. We had sex 3 times throughout the night, watched something on Netflix, and I ordered a pizza. She decided to stay over and went to sleep early.

She's attractive and a sweet girl, but her behavior is kinda weird. Almost like it's an act just to get a white boyfriend. She gave me her # in her first response on the site. She was calling me lindo (handsome) in some of our 1st messages, sending me unprovoked topless photos before meeting. After we had sex she was calling me amor and telling me I'm so unbelievably handsome (even my mom would probably think it was too much).

She's a solid enough lover, sweet, and fun to be around, but I think she's gonna be extremely clingy and jealous. I'm not exactly sure how to proceed, but I probably need to tread carefully.

Played PLO the last 2 nights at Luckia. It’s a pretty small game, 5k/5k and most are buying in for 300-500k. Not an especially great game, mostly regs who don’t show an ounce of aggression until they have a nutty hand. Although there was a 2 hour period with 2 guys shoveling in money pre with 90% of hands. Hopefully on the weekend there’s a 5k/10k.

I visited Usaquén yesterday and really like that area. I’ve yet to even see one 8+ walking around during the day in el centro or Zona T. Honestly it's the exact same quality that can be found in CDMX. But in Usaquén, there were quite a few hotties walking around. Sucks that that area is so far from the center. I think I would live there if I stayed in Bogotá (small chance tho). One thing that's awesome about CDMX is that you can basically walk among all the desirable areas (Polanco/Reforma/Condesa/Roma/Centro).

Yesterday I met up with a girl with a killer body who I thought was cute, she even has a couple face shots on her profile. But in person she was a full 2-3 points less attractive, and my disappointment was probably obvious on my face when we first met. Interesting chat at least, but no desire to keep going. So far I've met 3 girls (2 of which I wasn't really attracted to) and 1 of which I was banging an hour after meeting. 1 flake so far. I'm meeting up with a girl tomorrow and she's already calling me "lindo" so hopefully that means she's DTF like the other girl. Then on Friday the girl I hooked up with before is gonna spend the night. I haven't been as motivated to go out with girls every night like I thought. I've been playing poker and checking out neighborhoods more.