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09-26-2009 , 04:13 PM
i dont post here much but questioning my line in hand from wsope.

i have 38k at 150/300 no ante, villain covers. villian is jason mercier, have been involved in a few pots with him during the day. held aq v his ak on akq board and called two streets, and have taken a few big pots without showdown. i dont have the best image. hes been active opening and fairly aggro postflop.

he opens to 750 from the co, i flat KThh from the bb.

flop Kc Qh 4h
i lead for 1100, he makes it 2850 pretty quickly. i reraise to 7650 and he tanks for three or four minutes before making it 24k.

how narrow is his range here and is he ever playing aa or ak like this? i could have flatted the flop raise but dont feel comfortable calling down oop if the board bricks.
09-26-2009 , 04:21 PM
Call the flop raise if you aren't comfortable calling down on certain turn/river combos, you should c/c the flop
09-26-2009 , 07:39 PM
How much does he cover you by?

If we give him a big range:

Board: Kc Qh 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 39.942% 39.67% 00.27% 419989 2871.00 { KhTh }

Hand 1: 60.058% 59.79% 00.27% 632945 2871.00 { QQ+, 44, AKs, KQs, AKo, KQo }




then you are almost bang on. It doesn't look good.
09-26-2009 , 08:03 PM
he started the hand with around 50k. it's like 30k more to me after i make it 8k.
09-26-2009 , 08:35 PM
why did you 3bet the flop?
09-26-2009 , 08:51 PM
i think his range is wide pre flop and he will cbet alot head up. i would check call flop. after that it gets harder. assuming his image is loose he thinks he will get called on this flop with a queen and alot of draws so he will probably bluff turn alot. unless he thinks you are a calling station. so i would say check call the turn also. then on the river if a blank hits and he bets again you have to decide based on alot of factors. does he think you would call the turn with a draw? if so he may bluff the river also. is his 2 barrel image so loose that you may of called turn with a queen? does he think he can make you fold a tp hand? also the amount might be telling. your most likely hand after check calling two streets is tp. does he bet small as to get paid off or big. what level does he think you are on. against an unknown with no history a big river bet will be more likely to be a bluff. but if he thinks you will read it that way he may bet big with a big hand and bluff a value size. all this will depend on what you have seen him do and how smart of a player he thinks you are. to sum up; check call, check decide, check decide.
09-26-2009 , 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadeHand
How much does he cover you by?

If we give him a big range:

Board: Kc Qh 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 39.942% 39.67% 00.27% 419989 2871.00 { KhTh }

Hand 1: 60.058% 59.79% 00.27% 632945 2871.00 { QQ+, 44, AKs, KQs, AKo, KQo }




then you are almost bang on. It doesn't look good.
Where is AJ or AT hearts? I think it would be better and probably more likely that he is doing this with JTo then with AK.
09-26-2009 , 09:27 PM
After the flop three bet, there shouldn't be an issue here. You're never drawing dead, and you potstuck yourself. Ship! That being said, seriously consider calling the threebet on the flop. I also like C/c or C/r flop a lot more, leaning towards C/c.
09-27-2009 , 12:24 AM
I c/c flop all day here. Madehand, I don't think your range is quite right for Jason, I'd think he can occasionally have stuff like the NFD or at least hands like AhJh or Jh9h.
09-27-2009 , 12:38 AM
i would c/c flop always i think, and if i led i wouldn't have 4bet. i have no idea what i would do here. you need 39% to breakeven if he's always getting it in here, which means he has to have atleast three ace high flush draw combos along w/ 444 KKK QQQ which all seem to make sense. So, soul read i guess? edit: I left out combos of AA/AK which iguess could be there. but either way it looks like we have to stretch to make it a breakeven spot to get it in, unless you can weight his range pretty heavily from betsizing. editedit: could he also just spaz out hard with JTcc? seems possible too. THe more i think about it i think i guess we have to get it in playing it this way, but i can't imagine that it's more profitable or worth playing a huge pot over to play it this way.
09-27-2009 , 01:00 AM
3-bet spewing with equity versus every hand in his range and then folding would just make me want to die. So if I did do that there's no way I'm folding the flop.
09-27-2009 , 08:15 AM
yeah c/c might be better, i put myself in a ****ty spot for loads of bbs. im never folding after i 3/b so i shove and he snaps with 44. my line is def better if he has nfd hands in his range, which he has to imo, and it hurts me that i have the Th in my hand because he cant have JThh. im doubting he spazzes with JTo or JTcc.
09-27-2009 , 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darrenelias
yeah c/c might be better, i put myself in a ****ty spot for loads of bbs. im never folding after i 3/b so i shove and he snaps with 44. my line is def better if he has nfd hands in his range, which he has to imo, and it hurts me that i have the Th in my hand because he cant have JThh. im doubting he spazzes with JTo or JTcc.
lol

duh?
09-27-2009 , 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darrenelias
yeah c/c might be better

No "might" about it.
09-27-2009 , 12:00 PM
why are you leading?
09-28-2009 , 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mement_mori
why are you leading?
This ^ Interested in your plan with the lead-out.

      
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