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07-14-2014 , 02:03 AM
300/600/75, I have ~18k.

Been playing pretty tight due to having an awkward stack most of the day, finally grinded it back to ~30 bigs. Two hands before this, villain raised in EP, I flatted on button, he bet flop, checked turn, bet river and i called, and his top pair was good. Villain had ben playing mostly ABC / taggy / solid.

To the hand: I raise in MP to 1200, youngish German kid (~40k) who seemed pretty good thought for about 10 seconds before calling. Loose / passive guy in SB calls. Villain looks down at his hand, tanks for about 20 seconds, and then 3bets to 5k.

Peeking at the other two players, they don't seem all that interested in continuing.

What range of hands would you ship?
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07-14-2014 , 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwansolo
300/600/75, I have ~18k.

Been playing pretty tight due to having an awkward stack most of the day, finally grinded it back to ~30 bigs. Two hands before this, villain raised in EP, I flatted on button, he bet flop, checked turn, bet river and i called, and his top pair was good. Villain had ben playing mostly ABC / taggy / solid.

To the hand: I raise in MP to 1200, youngish German kid (~40k) who seemed pretty good thought for about 10 seconds before calling. Loose / passive guy in SB calls. Villain looks down at his hand, tanks for about 20 seconds, and then 3bets to 5k.

Peeking at the other two players, they don't seem all that interested in continuing.

What range of hands would you ship?
He's getting a pretty good price, so you really can't bluff 4-bet ship. It's a great squeeze spot for him but without any additional info, I wouldn't ship wider than
88+, AQ+ IMO.
07-14-2014 , 08:55 AM
What is V's stack? Obv. he covers but by how much?
07-14-2014 , 04:56 PM
88+ AJo+ ATs+ KJs+ KQo+
07-14-2014 , 05:14 PM
dont think you need a shoving range here
you rly shouldnt be flatting hands that are strong enough to jam in a spot like this unless you were tarping from the start
07-14-2014 , 05:31 PM
When did OP flat :s?
07-14-2014 , 06:07 PM
lol nm my post
07-14-2014 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by boobsicles
88+ AJo+ ATs+ KJs+ KQo+
lol
07-14-2014 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Beachman42
What is V's stack? Obv. he covers but by how much?
I think he had around 50k
07-14-2014 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
lol
I have no idea why that range is funny considering all the dead money and HERO noticing villain pick up on the fact that the two callers aren't very involved in the hand.
07-14-2014 , 09:02 PM
yea **** it just ship 30 bigs with 88 KQ AT in the main
07-14-2014 , 10:00 PM
Hmm I don't know...I don't think of it that way but I guess if you have a lot of edge on the table id be very conservative here
07-14-2014 , 10:20 PM
you dont even know if this guy is light ever. just because it looks like a good spot to squeeze doesnt mean this guy will take advantage of it.
07-14-2014 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by boobsicles
I have no idea why that range is funny considering all the dead money and HERO noticing villain pick up on the fact that the two callers aren't very involved in the hand.
He said he noticed this after the squeeze, not before.

I think I'd jam something like 88+/AK here and not be thrilled about anything less than QQ.
07-15-2014 , 12:12 AM
TT+ AQs +
07-15-2014 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverScaredB
He said he noticed this after the squeeze, not before.
Yeah, noticed after jam
07-15-2014 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverScaredB
He said he noticed this after the squeeze, not before.

I think I'd jam something like 88+/AK here and not be thrilled about anything less than QQ.
Hmm I misread that...in which case that changes a lot.
07-15-2014 , 04:35 PM
Anyways, I had TT and tanked for about 2 mins before folding. Other two guys folded and villain started breathing again. Read after the fact felt like a JJ / AK / AQ type of hand but who knows.

Thanks for responses.
07-16-2014 , 08:14 AM
Nh.
07-16-2014 , 10:19 AM
In the main vs mostly unknowns I'm fine getting owned in this spot if they are squeezing this small light vs possible stations when he could have just peeled. The overwhelming majority of players have JJ+ AK here so since he probably is calling those off I would want JJ+ AK because you are so short and lots of dead $.
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