PokerStars Game #32684186506: Tournament #200909019, $300+$20 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2009/09/10 20:49:50 WET [2009/09/10 15:49:50 ET]
Table '200909019 78' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Reesy (17265 in chips)
Seat 2: J0hnny_Dr@m@ (12795 in chips)
Seat 3: vessarn (3735 in chips)
Seat 4: gboro780 (19875 in chips)
Seat 5: Banter Boy (26950 in chips)
Seat 6: Tmay420 (16880 in chips)
Tmay420: posts small blind 25
Reesy: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to J0hnny_Dr@m@ [9s Qs Ah 5h]
J0hnny_Dr@m@: raises 100 to 150
vessarn: folds
gboro780: calls 150
Banter Boy: folds
Tmay420: folds
Reesy: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6s 4h 9h]
Reesy: checks
J0hnny_Dr@m@: bets 350
gboro780: raises 779 to 1129
Reesy: folds
J0hnny_Dr@m@: raises 2521 to 3650
gboro780: raises 7775 to 11425
J0hnny_Dr@m@: raises 1220 to 12645 and is all-in
gboro780: calls 1220
*** TURN *** [6s 4h 9h] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [6s 4h 9h 2d] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
J0hnny_Dr@m@: shows [9s Qs Ah 5h] (two pair, Nines and Fives)
gboro780: shows [7c 6d 5s 9c] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
gboro780 collected 25765 from pot

did i overplay this...meaning should i opt to see turn and/or river cheap
or std

Yes. Youre way too deep to get it in on that flop imo, when you could easily be drawing to non pairing hearts or running boat.

I would just flat the first raise.

This. If you were more shallow you could definitely get it in here.

yeah but there s no value in that if i hit...plus i think gboro is not likely to play hans that contain 44 or 66 so its most def a flip

True. But hes not going broke with a hand that you dominate or are better than flipping with, so do you really want to flip for nearly 300BB when theres probably going to be a lot of sat winners and people who cant play omaha very well that are going to stack off a lot lighter.

super std imo.

Not 3betting flop seems bad. Folding to the 4bet is worse.

You quickly run out of options in PLO freezouts oop, who cares how deep you are.

This is actually fine due to a combination of factors. Villain is less likely to have 66 or 44, we have top set blockers and a possibility of FE vs weak 2pair hands. I also agree that because we're oop we want to try and win it now if possible (as well as make later decisions easier). I also think that our hand is fairly faceup, which will harm our implied odds against such a good player.

this is the reason i stay away from omahaha

fold preflop?

this is on the flop:

Method: enumerate (820 samples)
Board: 6s4h9h
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Ah5hQs9s 51.46% 419 6
9c7c6d5s 48.54% 395 6

but 2pair with a sucker str8 draw is like the best case for you when 250BB are going in on this flop (which is actually pretty bad on his end). you are behind against anything reasonable that gets it in here like set and str8 draw, huge wraps or even a dry set without redraws

I would not raise this disconnected hand UTG.

Villain's raise may be OK, but he should fold to the 3-bet.

There is FE to the 3-bet, but you need more to go with your flush draw, as you could be significantly behind when you get allin. So think you have to flat call the raise.

Not sure you should pot it initially on the flop. As this hand played out, it shows the dangers of playing marginal hands OOP in PLO.