UB 1k: "Basic" PF Spot early on with the Interracial Ace and King - Page 2 - High Stakes MTT Strategy

I mean, too little here looks like we are inducing/could be 4b bluffing so if our plan is to 4b get it in less is fine but ~900 - 1k makes it pretty clear that we have something to work with. From what I have deviated from this thread so far the consensus is that we are not looking for a 5b so a smaller 4b might be a bad idea.

07-30-2010 , 08:20 AM

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Todd Terry

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What the **** is with people's sizing in this thread?

1000? Really?

The micro reraise has become so accepted that we mock a 4bet which is 2.8x the 3bet? Really?

07-30-2010 , 08:29 AM

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meh if their 5bet ranges are going to be super tight (and they are), I see nothing wrong with 900/fold (blockers are good)

I don't know if their 5bet ranges are going to be that tight given we've been active, I think I just fold here, if we were suited I'd flat.

07-30-2010 , 09:37 AM

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Fold against nits, 4bet/call against psychos, call against everyone else which is the vast majority. IMO.

07-30-2010 , 10:34 AM

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I would 4bet/get it in vs anyone not nits.

Folding seems ludicrous to me.

07-30-2010 , 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by the_snail03

I would 4bet/get it in vs anyone not nits.

Folding seems ludicrous to me.

+1

975 get it in

07-30-2010 , 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Terry

Fold against nits, 4bet/call against psychos, call against everyone else which is the vast majority. IMO.

Pretty much this, although I'd lean towards folding a little more often and flatting a little less often.
People are SERIOUSLY overestimating our equity vs a range we get it in against in this spot.

07-30-2010 , 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Terry

The micro reraise has become so accepted that we mock a 4bet which is 2.8x the 3bet? Really?

in pos with such a low stack to pot ratio after the 4 bet, in a spot where we should have a bluffing range, making it 2.8 is an absolute disaster imo.

I think anything over like 2.3 is laughably bad tbh. In a vacuum making it 1000 with value, while having a non existent bluffing range is probably fine.

but doubt ur that bladed if you do not have a bluffing range in this spot and who the *** doesnt want to be razor sharpnananananaana

07-31-2010 , 09:54 AM

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I know the answer to both...but refuse to encourage a ub thread.

07-31-2010 , 10:23 AM

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lissi stinkt

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what is ur plan if u flat preflop??

07-31-2010 , 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stealthmunk

I know the answer to both...but refuse to encourage a ub thread.

good point, i vote we stop bumping it

07-31-2010 , 12:48 PM

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I know the answer to both...but refuse to encourage a ub thread.

I'm fairly confident on my guesses for both, more so BT than SB.

07-31-2010 , 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wazz

good point, i vote we stop bumping it

yeah, you're right

07-31-2010 , 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hagbard celine

yeah, you're right

+1

Now, that the strat discusison has run it's course, if people really want to know, they can guess, and I will confirm if correct.

As pghfan, and everyone who has asked me privately has guessed, the btn was quite obviously siola. I guess there really aren't too many others who fit that description.

Feel like you should be able to get the sb pretty quick, as well.

07-31-2010 , 02:51 PM

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lol wow, somehow I read this thinking that hero was the BTN and was 3bet from the SB. No wonder I was thinking you were all a bunch of nits!

07-31-2010 , 03:00 PM

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i really love the use of interracial itt.

07-31-2010 , 10:30 PM

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kleath

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comooonnnn who is it??

07-31-2010 , 11:07 PM

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Halowax

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Spoiler:

07-31-2010 , 11:25 PM

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JP OSU

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Ahh, didn't really think of him as a 2p2er even though he posts occasionally...

07-31-2010 , 11:31 PM

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Yeah, Charlie berated me when I told him who the villains were for that reason. I guess I should have just said "Reg", cuz I didn't want to mention that other site by name... then again, the point of the thread wasn't orginially for guessing games, anyways.

07-31-2010 , 11:59 PM

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kleath

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oh lol silly halowax

you shoulda just said god, he posts clouds instead of blinds and will raise you a miracle

08-01-2010 , 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kleath

oh lol silly halowax

you shoulda just said god, he posts clouds instead of blinds and will raise you a miracle

08-01-2010 , 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DFish

Pretty much this, although I'd lean towards folding a little more often and flatting a little less often.
People are SERIOUSLY overestimating our equity vs a range we get it in against in this spot.

Yep

08-01-2010 , 04:04 AM

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Folding could easily be fine

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