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08-31-2009 , 10:29 AM
No reads on villains. We are ITM, about 90 players left out of 1400. I had recently doubled-up twice from being very short-stacked.

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 8 players
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UTG: t89208 M = 24.78
Hero (UTG+1): t41992 M = 11.66
MP1: t27448 M = 7.62
MP2: t71047 M = 19.74
CO: t32735 M = 9.09
BTN: t54345 M = 15.10
SB: t9661 M = 2.68
BB: t24992 M = 6.94

Pre Flop: (t3600) Hero is UTG+1 with Q Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t4000, MP1 raises to t27298 all in, 2 folds, BTN raises to t54195 all in, 2 folds, Hero ??
08-31-2009 , 10:50 AM
reads? pt3 stats?
08-31-2009 , 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whynot?
reads? pt3 stats?
No reads or stats.
08-31-2009 , 11:18 AM
Ran a simulation. You are also behind in the sidepot with the button. You have 4K already in and there is about 5K blinds and antes, so there are pot odds. There are also some ICM considerations.

The key thing is button's range. I think he should push JJ/AK. If he only does this with higher pps, obviously you can't call.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

756,107 games 11.015 secs 68,643 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.391% 31.07% 03.32% 234936 25099.50 { QQ }
Hand 1: 27.441% 24.94% 02.51% 188538 18942.00 { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 38.168% 33.90% 04.27% 256299 32293.50 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
08-31-2009 , 11:19 AM
call

Hand 0: 38.990% 36.50% 02.49% 5330823900 364311712.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 36.245% 34.96% 01.29% 5105949300 188293564.00 { QQ }
Hand 2: 24.765% 22.67% 02.09% 3312005904 305370244.00 { 88+, AJs+, AQo+ }

ahhhhh our ranges are slightly different. i think mine is better!

Last edited by smokrokflock; 08-31-2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason: betgowned
08-31-2009 , 11:21 AM
it's a snap...betgo your range for button is too tight if opener has been even reasonably active
08-31-2009 , 11:30 AM
ride the wave
08-31-2009 , 12:02 PM
im never folding here, obv ud like to be HU w/ one all in but ur ahead of both of their range and its a good spot to gamble for a big stack
08-31-2009 , 12:03 PM
without reads/stats the question is just a guessing game, tough to say

I mostly snap tho, folding QQ with an M of 11 is prob more of a mistake than most any call with it
08-31-2009 , 01:16 PM
this is one where i look at the pt stats and if second all in is tight i fold and loose i call even if its a small sample size. given we have no reads or stats i default to folding here but not feel good about it

      
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