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07-30-2010 , 11:52 PM

Pghfan987

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The opener is Elky, the flatter is completely ******ed, capable of set mining or two pair mining here. WUG?

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t46484 M = 9.68
UTG+1: t69226 M = 14.42
UTG+2: t44227 M = 9.21
MP1: t81933 M = 17.07
MP2: t20928 M = 4.36
CO: t193789 M = 40.37
BTN: t40864 M = 8.51
SB: t27030 M = 5.63
Hero (BB): t50562 M = 10.53

Pre Flop: (t4800) Hero is BB with K

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t4000, UTG+2 calls t4000, 5 folds

Final Pot: t12800

Last edited by Pghfan987; 07-30-2010 at 11:58 PM.

07-31-2010 , 12:05 AM

the_snail03

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Sure.

If he is opening light/ish in EP I'd pile it in his face tho.

07-31-2010 , 12:14 AM

Pghfan987

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I didn't have reads on his recent activity. TBH I can't remember if it is because I switched tables or because he was sitting out for a little bit.

07-31-2010 , 12:37 AM

JP OSU

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Meh, in a 50fo I'd just flat here...

07-31-2010 , 12:51 AM

JackOfSpeed

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Seems pretty close, I doubt you're missing out on much value whichever you choose (of shoving it in his beak or just flatting).

07-31-2010 , 04:45 AM

Anti-Matter

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Am I the only one who thinks flatting here is really bad?

07-31-2010 , 06:16 AM

matze_widi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Matter

Am I the only one who thinks flatting here is really bad?

no you aren´t, idl a flat here oop witrh KQo, to many puke spots for me

07-31-2010 , 06:31 AM

alekhine11

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Given stacks and being OOP warrants a fold.

07-31-2010 , 11:03 AM

stevepa

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would never ever fold, call/shove both seem fine.

07-31-2010 , 11:45 AM

#10

Todd Terry

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Shove. Elky opens really wide in $25K buy-in events, I doubt he opens tighter in $50 FOs that he doesn't give a **** about.

07-31-2010 , 11:47 AM

#11

freehat

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Folding is absurd

07-31-2010 , 12:24 PM

#12

Jamil11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Terry

Shove. Elky opens really wide in $25K buy-in events, I doubt he opens tighter in $50 FOs that he doesn't give a **** about.

+1 for shoving.

07-31-2010 , 12:52 PM

#13

mement_mori

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Id never call, fold or shove and I think shove is a lot better.

07-31-2010 , 04:48 PM

#14

ASPoker8

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I feel very confident about:

Shove >> Call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fold

07-31-2010 , 05:02 PM

#15

FatsoFat6969

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASPoker8

I feel very confident about:

Shove >> Call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fold

this imo

07-31-2010 , 05:43 PM

#16

Scary_Tiger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stevepa

would never ever fold, call/shove both seem fine.

07-31-2010 , 05:53 PM

#17

BBKPoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASPoker8

I feel very confident about:

Shove >> Call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fold

07-31-2010 , 07:01 PM

#18

smokrokflock

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+5 or woteva

Last edited by smokrokflock; 07-31-2010 at 07:02 PM. Reason: zomg mori got one wrong

07-31-2010 , 07:03 PM

#19

Todd Terry

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I agree with the rising superstar.

07-31-2010 , 07:24 PM

#20

Chimp__greg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASPoker8

I feel very confident about:

Shove >> Call >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fold

Agreed.

07-31-2010 , 07:56 PM

#21

Alex Wice

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what do you mean completely ******ed, whats the bottom of his flatting range?
I see it as between calling and folding, with a default against a tight reg flatter to fold

07-31-2010 , 07:59 PM

#22

Pghfan987

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Ice

what do you mean completely ******ed, whats the bottom of his flatting range?

I would guess 45s.

07-31-2010 , 08:04 PM

#23

CaliStyle

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Never folding.

07-31-2010 , 09:13 PM

#24

Alex Wice

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obviously if he has 54s in his flat range then its a snap shove and i would push way way way wider

08-01-2010 , 02:03 AM

#25

SCTrojans

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Those of you saying possibly fold aren't being serious are you?

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