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10-13-2015 , 01:41 AM
Haha well done CBorders.

What a douchebag this guy is srsly
10-13-2015 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
That. Is. Amaze balls.

Are we all still jealous trolls, Jake? Or are you just running like **** in life decisions in 2015?
10-13-2015 , 06:44 AM
Haha, well done
10-13-2015 , 07:49 AM

are you a real person
10-13-2015 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
LOL really Jake? What's the explanation?
He have teleport machine!
10-13-2015 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckmyShoes

are you a real person
hi jake

Last edited by Rowniwn; 10-13-2015 at 09:26 AM. Reason: [ ] relevant
10-13-2015 , 10:48 AM
"Schindler the swindler" gets taken down.

Truly a scum-bag move because it makes it harder for players that have legitimately been done wrong to be taken seriously and it is a slap in the face to all the US players that made personal sacrifices to pack up and move to keep playing the game.

PStars should sue you for defamation and most certainly should counter-sue for defamation and costs if you ever find a lawyer dumb enough to take your lying case on contingency. Garbage person.
10-13-2015 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gryphon
jokerstars f ups again
See above.
Are you man enough to apologize?
10-13-2015 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
"Schindler the swindler" gets taken down.

Truly a scum-bag move because it makes it harder for players that have legitimately been done wrong to be taken seriously and it is a slap in the face to all the US players that made personal sacrifices to pack up and move to keep playing the game.
this has been discussed at length many times in the past but this point is true, sure there are a lot of Americans who made sacrifices etc to move, so it's unfair in that sense that some just vpn.. but the actual act of vpning if not combined with multi accounting etc is barely unethical. most people ITT hating are just annoyed OP lied and posted this which is understandable.. from reputable sources I would feel fairly confident saying this is much more common than most of you think.

also +1 the arbitrary punishment of acc. balance seized whilst maybe the easiest thing they can do, is unfair since someone can have 0$-1m (or more I guess) in their account and two equal crimes can be punished vastly differently.
10-13-2015 , 12:34 PM
The $250K penalty is sort of unfair. Think OP used very bad judgement playing from the US, keeping so much money in his account, and posting here.
10-13-2015 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by littletrix
Nice bookmarks as well CBorders, would love to know what's in the Frugality folder...
Or that mystery folder #4.
10-13-2015 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
this has been discussed at length many times in the past but this point is true, sure there are a lot of Americans who made sacrifices etc to move, so it's unfair in that sense that some just vpn.. but the actual act of vpning if not combined with multi accounting etc is barely unethical. most people ITT hating are just annoyed OP lied and posted this which is understandable.. from reputable sources I would feel fairly confident saying this is much more common than most of you think.

also +1 the arbitrary punishment of acc. balance seized whilst maybe the easiest thing they can do, is unfair since someone can have 0$-1m (or more I guess) in their account and two equal crimes can be punished vastly differently.
+1, finally some sense itt
10-13-2015 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by betgo
OP used very bad judgement playing from the US
'bad judgement' ???

you make it sound like its something where he accidentally made a bad decision.

there is no bad judgement here. everything was planned, setup and executed with full bad intent.

He knew and therefore accepted the risks of getting caught while in playing in the states.
10-13-2015 , 01:24 PM
Well first of all if you play while in the USA and get busted, then you have to take the consequences and not cry if they ban you for live and take your money, that is from their[ps] point of view understandable they have too follow the rules/law even if they do not agree with them.

But i for one completely understand why people are doing it, since i think we all agree the ban of on-line poker is totally unfair and hypocrite and is caused by lobbying by ??? and not for any justifiable reasons, because there is billions of dollars of gambling done in the USA, legal or not, but many times justice turned a blind eye to many forms of gambling, like weed in the netherlands.

So i for one think they are not cheaters if they play according the rules of the game, and i see nothing amoral in that, so i think that people calling people that play from the USA cheaters are wrong and even a bit hypocrite, and should think what they would do if your livelihood is taken away for totally wrong and unfair reasons and had a chance to play anyway, and it is not like people that win money from people playing from the USA do not get payed so no harm no foul i say in this case.
10-13-2015 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
but the actual act of vpning if not combined with multi accounting etc is barely unethical. most people ITT hating are just annoyed OP lied and posted this which is understandable.. from reputable sources I would feel fairly confident saying this is much more common than most of you think.
so we shouldn't be mad at him for breaking the rules, we should only be mad at him for being dumb about it after the fact? VPN is more common than we think so Stars should hold him less accountable? how ****ing convoluted

this thread is about OP breaking Stars' TOS and paying the price for it, not a discourse on the "ethics" of VPN'ing
10-13-2015 , 05:00 PM
i mean yes he made a dumb decision and is getting punished for it, no one denies that. was just saying people seem to be quite high on their horse, i bet a significant portion on the people being the hardest would likely consider doing the same thing if

a) their country was no longer allowed to play online poker, just like usa
b) they didn't think the chance they get caught/in trouble is high

i honestly dont think i would, but thats because of the risks etc, not because i think its unethical.
also i was kinda pointing out the punishment is imo unfair. sure, because stars makes it blantantly clear you will lose up to 100% of your account balance for breaking this rule, breaking it is obviously a stupid and risky thing to do, which is why not having sympathy for him being punished is fine. but agreeing with the fact that what he did is so unethical/shady/whatever other terms people are flaming him with is completely independent of that though. basically im saying i dont think the punishment fits the crime, but i cant feel much sympathy since he knew what the punishment was and still chose to risk it..

lol this is sooooo offtopic but i would say the bali 9 is a pretty good analogy. you might think the death penalty is too harsh for this crime but many argue that since they knew that was the risk there should be no sympathy as they made the conscious decision considering their own risk (death) reward (money).

i agree with betgo for once, we are both basically putting it in somewhat more pc terms or 'nice' terms, whichever you prefer. he obviously made a very foolish decision and he is paying the price. i don't think anyone owes sympathy (even though i personally have some). the price happens to be unfair for the crime.
10-13-2015 , 05:13 PM
Hey guys, I just got arrested for smoking pot in the US. The cops found my bong, saw me acting stoned, smelled the weed, but didn't actually see me doing it. I was right on the border of Colorado so how do they know I wasn't doing it in Colorado where it is legal. This is so unfair that they would do this without proof.
10-13-2015 , 06:04 PM
I don't think OP is a major cheater. However, you should not violate the rules. If you do play from the US, obviously don't leave that much money in your account.

Then he goes and complains he was robbed and makes some ridiculous argument that they can't prove it. In criminal cases under English common law, you have to prove; but if he wanted to sue Stars and found some court with jurisdiction, it would be based on preponderance of evidence. Even before Borders posted that, it was obvious Stars was right, because OP pretty much admitted it.

The main mistake OP made is to think he has the right to violate the rules in most brazen manner possible. So I would say he is a arrogant and has bad judgement.
10-13-2015 , 06:27 PM
good posts david. agreed
10-13-2015 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
thats some very fast driving to mexico and back
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Originally Posted by sixfour
guys he has a delorean, this is fine
10-13-2015 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Finn-in-web
Honestly, sometimes I wonder how some of the users in this forum survive in the 'real world'. With absolutely no social skills and no understanding of basic behavioral rules you must get your *** kicked permanently by anybody...
I know what you mean but he probably has the balls to act that way only when he is behind a computer.
10-14-2015 , 01:35 AM
omgclaydol, you're forgetting that OP changed his stars nickname twice recently just to avoid being detected by nosy people.
10-14-2015 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
On February 14th Jake bagged chips in day 1a of WSOPc in Florida: http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/132...ip%20Count.pdf

On February 15th he made the final table of a $109fo on Stars:

He busted the WSOPc event on Sunday the 16th: http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/upda...th-place-8508/

That same evening he played a 109 2x turbo on Stars as shown in the screenshot above.
-EV move to post here IMO
10-14-2015 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lissistinkt
wp stars
And wp cborders
10-14-2015 , 05:25 PM
Funny how Jake hasn't been online since the proof he was so sure Pokerstars wouldn't have came to light.
I guess one of his buddies told him about it.

      
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