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12-01-2008 , 07:01 PM
This is more of a theory argument pertaining to mtt strategy.

The argument:
Lets say you are at the first stage of a 10k event deep and long blinds, a tourney that relies more on skill then luck to win. You have a 200bb starting stack and 90 minute blinds. First hand you are dealt QQ and raise it utg to 5bb's total (small ball pohka!). It is folded to BB who shoves for 200bb's total. In the process of shoving the villian shows AK soooted, do you snap shove because "ZOMG im a 4% fav and 5bb committed!" or do you fold because "This tourney is a skill based game, no need to flip here".

Call or fold? Which is more profitable at this stage in the long run as far as overall ev is concerned?
12-01-2008 , 07:06 PM
i dunno-- i personally play for 1st... and you need to win huge flips to accumulate chips in a mtt with thousands of people to win... HOW CAN YOU FOLD KNOWING YOU HAVE THE BEST HAND? think about it.... what would you do
protential?
12-01-2008 , 07:08 PM
Fold, if i can outplay the field, why would i risk my tourney life all in preflop when im a slight favorite.
12-01-2008 , 07:10 PM
very original thread op, exciting implications.
12-01-2008 , 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ObliVioN4
very original thread op, exciting implications.
level?

this thread has been done before, I'm having trouble finding it though

nvm found it

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...q-vs-ak-74453/

Last edited by rdrr; 12-01-2008 at 07:21 PM. Reason: found it
12-01-2008 , 07:42 PM
sigh
12-01-2008 , 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdrr
level?

this thread has been done before, I'm having trouble finding it though

nvm found it

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...q-vs-ak-74453/
[x] sarcasm detector broken
12-01-2008 , 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protential
The argument:
Lets say you are at the first stage of a 10k event deep and long blinds, a tourney that relies more on skill then luck to win.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
12-01-2008 , 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timex
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fyp
i snapcall wtf
12-01-2008 , 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustLuck
fyp
i snapcall wtf
yeah, def. i'm a favorite, and if i lose, bahama mama's and slides ftw i'm told
12-01-2008 , 10:26 PM
if you feel you have greater than a 50percent edge over the field, then i say fold.
12-01-2008 , 10:58 PM
i believe this situation was talked about in bill chen's book, and pretty much the conclusion was there are very few fields and very rarely talented players such that giving up a 57-43 edge for a double up opportunity to be correct
12-02-2008 , 01:15 AM
How do ppl in 10k events not protect their hands is the real question.
12-02-2008 , 01:33 AM
depends what else there is to do besides play poker. if online ez call i guess. if ur baller and cash games are running prob call. if ur nitty with ur last 10k fold.
12-02-2008 , 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roundroom
depends what else there is to do besides play poker. if online ez call i guess. if ur baller and cash games are running prob call. if ur nitty with ur last 10k fold.
if ur nitty with your last 10K wtf are you doing there?
12-02-2008 , 02:08 AM
Lol what a ******ed question.

You have two outs to improve...he has six.

Lmao at getting it in as a 3 to 1 dog when you're not even getting 2 to 1 on a call. Learn some pot odds, genius.

Stak
12-02-2008 , 02:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stakman1011
Lol what a ******ed question.

You have two outs to improve...he has six.

Lmao at getting it in as a 3 to 1 dog when you're not even getting 2 to 1 on a call. Learn some pot odds, genius.

Stak
look at the way he signs his name...that's class if i've ever seen it imo
12-02-2008 , 04:44 AM
small sample size anecdotal evidence: I didn't take big risks (or put myself in a position to be forced into do so) during the early stages in any of the tournaments i've made a deep run in.
12-02-2008 , 04:46 PM
Depends if the live tournament is at a cool location or not.
12-02-2008 , 04:59 PM
i think you guys are not considering reads....
12-02-2008 , 05:05 PM
Its only 200bbs

ARRRRINNN


I'd def fold at 3000 bbs, 3500bbs might be a bit too deep to fold though.
12-06-2008 , 01:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stakman1011
Lol what a ******ed question.

You have two outs to improve...he has six.

Lmao at getting it in as a 3 to 1 dog when you're not even getting 2 to 1 on a call. Learn some pot odds, genius.

Stak
stak this is a poker forum, there are going to be questions that wont seem as intelligent to you as it does to others. refrain from making these comments because you too were prolly asking these types of questions.

      
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