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06-02-2008 , 10:07 PM
I started this official-looking thread without the express written permission of 2p2, post at your own risk.


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Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG: t2855
UTG+1: t5650
UTG+2: t4955
MP1: t2330
MP2: t2675
CO: t7235
BTN: t13225
SB: t5710
Hero (BB): t4090

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 7 7
3 folds, MP1 raises to t400, 5 folds
06-02-2008 , 10:13 PM
fold all day?
06-02-2008 , 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthmunk
fold all day?
The fifth of the 5 folds was mine.

Edit: If he 3x'es I think it's pretty close.
06-02-2008 , 11:05 PM
4x = easy fold 3x = easy call
06-02-2008 , 11:07 PM
3x is a fold too
06-02-2008 , 11:15 PM
You have to call 200 more with stacks of 2400, is that not good enough odds, even if it is out of position?
06-03-2008 , 02:24 AM
Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

SirWest (MP1): t1830
govshark2 (MP2): t7835
SCLowCountry (CO): t5255
Betudontbet (BTN): t5983
Hero (SB): t7975
kidd 711 (BB): t9732
Sire'sChance (UTG): t6319
kudos1017 (UTG+1): t3475
jughead11 (UTG+2): t8710

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 6 6
5 folds, SCLowCountry raises to t550, 1 fold, Hero ?


3bet/call or fold vs random in nightly.
06-03-2008 , 03:39 AM
66 4 handed vs standard TAG who opens 3x UTG......Either way, what is ur range for shoving his open? Thx.

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t6000/t12000 Blinds - 4 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: t280862
CO: t342240
Hero (BTN): t281639
SB: t565259

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 6 6
CO raises to t36000


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Last edited by StuMan123; 06-03-2008 at 04:09 AM.
06-03-2008 , 08:46 AM
I've compiled a list of reasons why I'm ****ing terrible, please add to it:

1. Posted set-mining hand in quick spot thread where max win was 8.3x the amount to call. Folded quickly, but the fact that I even posted the hand shows that I'm an idiot.

2. Wanted to fold in a WSOP event when a guy who hasn't open limped all day open limp/reraises for 28 BBs over a guy who put in almost 20% of his stack.

3. Wanted to fold a small flush in a WSOP event with 25 BBs left when old guy confidently shoves (with another guy still in the hand) when the 3rd flush card hits on the turn.

Last edited by BadgerPro; 06-03-2008 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Edit out quote at request of person quoted.
06-03-2008 , 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chesskid1
Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

SirWest (MP1): t1830
govshark2 (MP2): t7835
SCLowCountry (CO): t5255
Betudontbet (BTN): t5983
Hero (SB): t7975
kidd 711 (BB): t9732
Sire'sChance (UTG): t6319
kudos1017 (UTG+1): t3475
jughead11 (UTG+2): t8710

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 6 6
5 folds, SCLowCountry raises to t550, 1 fold, Hero ?


3bet/call or fold vs random in nightly.
I'm folding in a vacuum.
06-03-2008 , 12:44 PM
Does anyone else think calling a 3x raise from the BB is okay in hand 1? If not, what odds do you need to set mine there?
06-03-2008 , 02:15 PM
I kind of like calling 3x there. The 66 hand fold with no reads
06-03-2008 , 08:53 PM
9 left in 100^3 6Max. I've been mixing folds, limps and raises when folded to in the SB. This is the first time he's done this.

Full Tilt Poker $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t250 - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

rtkoss (BB): t76707
Asiandude7 (UTG): t40626
UgottaBkiddin (CO): t52160
urCHEKRAISE (BTN): t29822
Hero (SB): t56716

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with T A
3 folds, Hero raises to t7000, rtkoss raises to t76457 all in, Hero?
06-03-2008 , 09:53 PM
not too much known about villain except he has a pretty impressive OPR
he timebanked pre like he was either considering folding or 3betting and settled on flatting. Who check/shoves the flop? Is checking best or should we Cbet/fold into 2 players for a quarter of our stack?
theres like 14 left at this point and my image is very snug

Full Tilt Poker $1K Monday No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t250 - 7 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

xMONSTERxDONGx (MP): t47338
Hero (CO): t48022
rtkoss (BTN): t59711
sampson724 (SB): t81650
magikstick8 (BB): t48217
JohnnyBelow (UTG): t37991
household (UTG+1): t27432

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with T T
3 folds, Hero raises to t5000, rtkoss calls t5000, sampson724 calls t4000, 1 fold

Flop: (t18750) 8 3 J (3 players)
sampson724 checks, Hero checks, rtkoss bets t12000, sampson724 folds, Hero?
06-04-2008 , 09:40 AM
i dont think id ever bet/fold vs 1 player. as played i think i shove
06-04-2008 , 11:50 PM
This is not a high stake tournament, but villain in the hand is Charder so I thought it would be ok to discuss.

The very last orbit when i was otb i shoved on his bb and he folded.

Now its folded to me again otb (i didnt shove any other hand after that one).

Shove again here?


Full Tilt Poker $32,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t400 - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (BTN): t36345
TulsaCrew (SB): t66770
charder30 (BB): t44443
jaynics (UTG): t48902
newera13 (UTG+1): t34070
freakmark77 (UTG+2): t64462
dranalli23 (MP1): t39435
SchruteFarms (MP2): t29614
gotosleeep1 (CO): t41301

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J 9
6 folds, Hero ???
06-05-2008 , 12:00 AM
posted from my blog, don't/do go if you don't/do want results

Quote:
With 4K chips and 25/50 blinds, UTG, a middle aged guy with a lot of tattoos on his arms (read: probably a nice guy, probably not very good) makes it 175. A random MP flats, and then the button, a 20-something obvious online pro whom I've seen around and almost has to be good, overcalls. (I later found out the button is Moorman1, who recently won the 5K winner take all freezeout on Stars and is definitely solid.) I look down at AQo in the big blind and make it 4 ways to the flop.

Flop: Ac Qc 8h (I may be confusing the exact card/suits, but definitely two clubs, one heart). I check intending to CR, but it checks around.

Turn: 5h. I thought the pot was 650 (actually 700) so I only bet 400 instead of the 500 I should've, but no matter. At any rate, the PFR and the caller fold, but Moorman calls.

River: 2c. At this point, I decide that a)Moorman never has a set (no way he checks behind the flop and then just calls the turn with that many draws), b)he can't really have clubs either because he's never going to check behind on the flop only to call the turn, and c)I may as well bet to let him find a call rather than rely on him to bluff when checked to when I've shown this much strength OOP. Additionally, if I underbet, I might get him to bluff shove, and since I can't think of a single hand he has that I possibly lose to, that's a good thing.

So after thinking a few seconds, I bet 700, right around half the pot, intending to probably call a raise.
06-05-2008 , 04:53 AM
Adanthar: looks good.

$50r. Check/call, bet/fold, check/fold, bet/call? My image is somewhat active. He seems somewhat tight.

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG+1: t7930
UTG+2: t10631
MP1: t3920
Hero (MP2): t11534
CO: t8187
BTN: t5705
SB: t12652
BB: t19305
UTG: t7195

Pre Flop: Hero is MP2 with 5 5
4 folds, Hero raises to t750, 1 fold, BTN calls t750, 2 folds

Flop: (t2100) 3 Q 3 (2 players)
[color=red]Hero?
06-07-2008 , 04:58 PM
WSOP $2.5K, no reads, first 20 mins., starting stacks 5K. EP limps, I make it 225 from the HJ with AQdd, CO says "Raise" and makes it 400. Folded around to me, I call. Flop: Q x x, 1 diamond. I check/call 400. Turn's another total brick, I check, he bets 1000, I fold. Just a totally annoying hand, anyone do anything different?

Edit: Adanthar, I think concluding that he never has the club FD because he didn't bet OTB on the flop in a 4-way pot with an A-high, two big cards two toned flop is a mistake.

Last edited by Todd Terry; 06-07-2008 at 05:03 PM.
06-07-2008 , 05:29 PM
wsop 2.5k
25/50, aroudn 5k stacks, active older guy thats limp-called before, but has taken some pots down without showdown limps utg, another guy limps in LP, i make it 250 on the button, utg calls, other guy folds.

flop JJ6r he checks i bet 300 and he c/r's to 800. i dont buy that he limp calls with lots of J's and that seems like the only thing he can call a shove w/.
anyone bluff shove here? There arent really any hands that have good equity as a bluff vs any calling range (unless he snaps like 99, i guess) so my hand shouldn't matter much. just looks like a BS line to me.
06-07-2008 , 05:47 PM
Ray:

I've been seeing a ton of limp/calling with absolute garbage in the last few days. And certainly KJ/QJ/JT are squarely within older guy's EP limp/calling ranges IMO.
06-07-2008 , 08:17 PM
yeah i think that when a loose, bad player limp calls they can easily have a jack in their hand, not sure why you would disagree
06-08-2008 , 10:49 AM
Adanthar isnt club combos T9, 89, 78, JT, 67 in villains range here

[b)he can't really have clubs either because he's never going to check behind on the flop only to call the turn]
06-09-2008 , 10:02 PM
Full Tilt Poker $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

JBT449 (UTG+1): t6890
Hero (UTG+2): t12805
Chris Klecz (MP1): t6590
B_O_K_E (MP2): t7305
fergwrx (CO): t7955
JOEYTHEB (BTN): t3985
SHATPACKER (SB): t8475
Michnak (BB): t4605
knickadam55 (UTG): t5865

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+2 with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to t300, 1 fold, B_O_K_E calls t300, 4 folds

Flop: (t780) 2 4 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t480, B_O_K_E raises to t1495, Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t1740
B_O_K_E wins t1740
06-09-2008 , 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exitonly
wsop 2.5k
25/50, aroudn 5k stacks, active older guy thats limp-called before, but has taken some pots down without showdown limps utg, another guy limps in LP, i make it 250 on the button, utg calls, other guy folds.

flop JJ6r he checks i bet 300 and he c/r's to 800. i dont buy that he limp calls with lots of J's and that seems like the only thing he can call a shove w/.
anyone bluff shove here? There arent really any hands that have good equity as a bluff vs any calling range (unless he snaps like 99, i guess) so my hand shouldn't matter much. just looks like a BS line to me.
I call much more often than I shove. You also don't have to shove to get a bluff out - you can make it like 1500 straight.

      
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