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Old 02-11-2013, 12:50 AM   #376
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

dont mean to turn this into BBV, just a little tilted since I've bubbled a ton of these and can't seem to figure them out.

PokerStars Hand #93855158731: Tournament #684197143, £500+£30 GBP Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVIII (2000/4000) - 2013/02/10 23:33:53 ET
Table '684197143 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: niccc (114477 in chips)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia (40338 in chips)
Seat 4: PATNITROF (142928 in chips)
Seat 6: aco2811 (109572 in chips)
Seat 8: Skämmes (218092 in chips)
Seat 9: ynd! (94593 in chips)
niccc: posts the ante 500
AndrewBoccia: posts the ante 500
PATNITROF: posts the ante 500
aco2811: posts the ante 500
Skämmes: posts the ante 500
ynd!: posts the ante 500
AndrewBoccia: posts small blind 2000
PATNITROF: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AndrewBoccia [8h Qs]
aco2811: folds
Skämmes: folds
ynd!: folds
niccc: folds
AndrewBoccia: raises 35838 to 39838 and is all-in
PATNITROF: calls 35838
*** FLOP *** [9s 3s 8d]
*** TURN *** [9s 3s 8d] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [9s 3s 8d 5c] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AndrewBoccia: shows [8h Qs] (a pair of Eights)
PATNITROF: shows [8s 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
PATNITROF collected 82676 from pot
AndrewBoccia finished the tournament in 6th place and received £1050.00.
niccc finished the tournament in 1st place and received £392.00.
niccc wins an entry to tournament #677392640
PATNITROF finished the tournament in 1st place and received £392.00.
PATNITROF wins an entry to tournament #677392640
aco2811 finished the tournament in 1st place and received £392.00.
aco2811 wins an entry to tournament #677392640
Skämmes finished the tournament in 1st place and received £392.00.
Skämmes wins an entry to tournament #677392640
ynd! finished the tournament in 1st place and received £392.00.
ynd! wins an entry to tournament #677392640
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 82676 | Rake 0
Board [9s 3s 8d 5c 4h]
Seat 1: niccc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia (small blind) showed [8h Qs] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 4: PATNITROF (big blind) showed [8s 8c] and won (82676) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: aco2811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Skämmes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ynd! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

another hand I'm curious about, what is the correct shoving/calling range here?
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:19 AM   #377
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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Another satty hand, payouts are 20/20/20/20/20
What do you make of villians play? I shoved because I thought he was calling AA minimum.

PokerStars Hand #93855002978: Tournament #684197143, £500+£30 GBP Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (1800/3600) - 2013/02/10 23:25:15 ET
Table '684197143 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: niccc (101027 in chips)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia (138277 in chips)
Seat 4: PATNITROF (101089 in chips)
Seat 5: jeff710 (31572 in chips)
Seat 6: aco2811 (63750 in chips)
Seat 8: Skämmes (172142 in chips)
Seat 9: ynd! (112143 in chips)
niccc: posts the ante 450
AndrewBoccia: posts the ante 450
PATNITROF: posts the ante 450
jeff710: posts the ante 450
aco2811: posts the ante 450
Skämmes: posts the ante 450
ynd!: posts the ante 450
PATNITROF: posts small blind 1800
jeff710: posts big blind 3600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AndrewBoccia [7c Ks]
aco2811: folds
Skämmes: folds
ynd!: folds
niccc: folds
AndrewBoccia: raises 134227 to 137827 and is all-in
PATNITROF: calls 98839 and is all-in
jeff710: folds
Uncalled bet (37188) returned to AndrewBoccia
*** FLOP *** [6d 2s 9d]
*** TURN *** [6d 2s 9d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [6d 2s 9d Ad] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PATNITROF: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
AndrewBoccia: shows [7c Ks] (a pair of Deuces)
PATNITROF collected 208028 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 208028 | Rake 0
Board [6d 2s 9d Ad 2h]
Seat 1: niccc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: AndrewBoccia (button) showed [7c Ks] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 4: PATNITROF (small blind) showed [Kc Kd] and won (208028) with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 5: jeff710 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: aco2811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Skämmes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ynd! folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Here is the nash if anyone is interested.

http://www.holdemresources.net/h/web...01089&s7=31572

I know nash is not entirely viable because of moving/increasing blinds or whatever.

What I find really interesting is that the BB is supposed to overcall only with aces It seems to me like if btn is shoving wide, and SB calls with a big equity advantage, a large amout of the time the bubble will not burst, and the BB would have given up his best chance for a huge chip up with KK/QQ. Thoughts?

edit: I'm stupid. The nash assumes the SB is a good player and is calling with only aces, so obviously you can only overcall aces or your lighting money on fire. derp

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Old 02-11-2013, 01:42 AM   #378
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

SB is supposed to be calling J8s? Really?
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:46 AM   #379
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SB is supposed to be calling J8s? Really?
BB calls J8s vs SB on 90%+... but yeah it looks kinda funny. Defend your children!
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:14 PM   #380
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Poker Stars, $500 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16000441

    CO: 6,439 (16.1 bb)
    BTN: 19,039 (47.6 bb)
    SB: 12,273 (30.7 bb)
    BB: 12,444 (31.1 bb)
    UTG+1: 8,732 (21.8 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,320 (8.3 bb)
    MP1: 22,715 (56.8 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 15,731 (39.3 bb)
    MP3: 8,455 (21.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A K
    3 folds, Hero raises to 808, 4 folds, BB calls 408

    Flop: (2,176) T K 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 1,088, BB calls 1,088

    Turn: (4,352) 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 2,393, BB calls 2,393

    River: (9,138) 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 4,025, BB raises to 8,115 and is all-in

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    Villian is a random, dont have a decent handsample on him.

    Pukefold right?

    EDIT: And thoughts on this riversize vs shove?

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    Old 02-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #381
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    I like more on each street, river is a fold v most. Games will suck when calling there is standard
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    Old 02-12-2013, 10:00 AM   #382
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    a bit more each st and just shove river vs random. even if i got to river like that i'd shove for 85% or w/e it is
    as played yea gross but u can only call if u think he is bluffing or value shoving worse remotely often enough, my guess is a random is not
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    Old 02-15-2013, 09:05 PM   #383
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    whats wrong with sizings ? unless BB is a total drooler, sizings are just fine

    disagree on shoving river >>>betting 1/2 as played unless you have a specific reason to; after all this is the Sun500 not the 5r

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    Old 02-16-2013, 06:54 PM   #384
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    whats wrong with sizings ? unless BB is a total drooler, sizings are just fine

    disagree on shoving river >>>betting 1/2 as played unless you have a specific reason to; after all this is the Sun500 not the 5r
    If you can't shove this river then you're the bad reg
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    Old 02-20-2013, 07:30 AM   #385
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Exact bubble, I'm 12/13, shortest stack is about 9k. Sorry if it's trivial

      $183 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16131971

      SB: 15,745 (26.2 bb)
      Hero (BB): 10,985 (18.3 bb)
      MP: 24,538 (40.9 bb)
      CO: 25,010 (41.7 bb)
      BTN: 51,910 (86.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 A
      2 folds, BTN raises to 1,275, SB folds,



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      Old 02-20-2013, 12:25 PM   #386
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      Old 02-20-2013, 01:50 PM   #387
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      Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

      I think it's a fold unless BU is going to be calling it off really tightly
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      Old 02-20-2013, 03:31 PM   #388
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      24 left in the Bigger 109.. MP3 is a random to me but has been very active preflop opening and 3betting other players at the table. Only pot I've played vs. him so far: I defend BB and c/r 843ss and he folds. This is one orbit later. BTN has moved to the table this orbit. He is also a random and hasn't played a pot yet. SB is a random but hasn't done much out of line. Not overly-agro either. Don't think I have a spewy or over-aggro image to the table but I have been playing aggressively. This table is really soft, but at the other two tables there are some very good regs left. I have an above average stack at the time and the current chip leader is around 850k.

        Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (6,000/12,000 blinds, 1,500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16133571

        CO: 323,907 (27 bb)
        BTN: 116,161 (9.7 bb)
        SB: 638,209 (53.2 bb)
        Hero (BB): 639,231 (53.3 bb)
        UTG+2: 607,367 (50.6 bb)
        MP1: 350,743 (29.2 bb)
        MP2: 243,418 (20.3 bb)
        MP3: 711,350 (59.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
        3 folds, MP3 raises to 24,000, CO folds, BTN raises to 114,661 and is all-in, SB calls 108,661
        Hero: ?



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        Old 02-20-2013, 03:42 PM   #389
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        I would call.
        He is prob not going to call a shove with a worse hand, wont fold a better hand and he is not going to bluff big pot/oop/no sidepot postflop too often
        SB range is prob 66-TT(AA?)/AJ-AQ
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        Old 02-20-2013, 03:44 PM   #390
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        what about mp3
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        Old 02-20-2013, 03:52 PM   #391
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        he's probably shoving QQ/AK so we can fold to his shove
        i think he is going to call all of his pocket pairs and suited connectors/suited broadways so if sb checks on low boards we can easily shove flop or bet small/shove turn on many boards or check and try to get this to showdown. Note this is going to be a pot without any side pots, so he shouldnt bluff w/ air this pot if he has a brain
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        Old 02-20-2013, 05:52 PM   #392
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        Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

        Jam with reads on SB, if he's not bad then it becomes a close fold
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        Old 02-24-2013, 07:05 PM   #393
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          Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (750/1,500 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16209721

          MP3: 22,756 (15.2 bb)
          CO: 19,635 (13.1 bb)
          BTN: 7,242 (4.8 bb)
          SB: 22,224 (14.8 bb)
          BB: 57,543 (38.4 bb)
          UTG+2: 15,885 (10.6 bb)
          MP1: 12,664 (8.4 bb)
          Hero (MP2): 15,940 (10.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A A
          2 folds, Hero raises to 3,060, MP3 folds, CO raises to 19,460 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero ????



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          200 turbo many shortstacks,83 left, 81 make the money, I have about 70 seconds in my timebank. Who times down and who saves timebank?? does your answer change if you have JJ, 88, AK?
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          Old 02-24-2013, 08:23 PM   #394
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            [hand_history]Poker Stars, $500 Buy-in (250/500 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16209901

            CO: 23,236 (46.5 bb)
            Hero (BTN): 26,475 (53 bb)
            SB: 12,654 (25.3 bb)
            BB: 14,626 (29.3 bb)
            UTG+1: 21,171 (42.3 bb)
            UTG+2: 54,372 (108.7 bb)
            MP1: 25,513 (51 bb)
            MP2: 19,326 (38.7 bb)
            MP3: 14,404 (28.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
            6 folds, Hero raises to 1,020, SB raises to 12,604 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero???

            Villian is unknown to me this is the Sunday 500.
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            Old 02-25-2013, 07:15 PM   #395
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            Time down the first one until it goes H4H or you have 10 seconds left, whicever comes first.

            Second one we need location, ABI, recent history
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            Old 02-26-2013, 05:11 AM   #396
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            They are reshipping because we cant call correctly. Correct adjustment is to r/c hands that we can, openshove hands that we can openshove but cant r/call and r/f hands that arent good enough to openshove but still decent. Of course if you dont care about balance and these two guys shoves so much it isnt + ev to r/f anything, dont have a r/f range.
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            Old 03-05-2013, 08:59 PM   #397
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            Jammer is good reg, caller is a fish. I'd expect him to play fairly straightforward in the sidepot, although there's always the random betting factor what makes this so close

            call/jam?

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              MP2: 11,248 (45 bb)
              MP3: 5,214 (20.9 bb)
              CO: 2,203 (8.8 bb)
              BTN: 3,682 (14.7 bb)
              SB: 8,498 (34 bb)
              Hero (BB): 6,069 (24.3 bb)
              UTG+1: 20,469 (81.9 bb)
              UTG+2: 6,548 (26.2 bb)
              MP1: 6,902 (27.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with A 9
              5 folds, CO raises to 2,173 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls 2,048

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              Old 03-06-2013, 05:05 AM   #398
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              Jam, think he's going to either a) fold way too much b) call it off with hands we're ahead of too much
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              Old 03-11-2013, 04:46 PM   #399
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              Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

              Big 162
              villain 29/20 45 hands


                Poker Stars, $150 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16470351

                MP3: 3,191 (63.8 bb)
                CO: 2,695 (53.9 bb)
                BTN: 2,350 (47 bb)
                SB: 5,825 (116.5 bb)
                BB: 2,675 (53.5 bb)
                Hero (UTG+1): 3,644 (72.9 bb)
                UTG+2: 3,300 (66 bb)
                MP1: 396 (7.9 bb)
                MP2: 2,944 (58.9 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A A
                Hero raises to 150, 7 folds, BB calls 100

                Flop: (325) 6 T 5 (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets 200, BB raises to 500, Hero calls 300

                Turn: (1,325) 8 (2 players)
                BB bets 625, Hero calls 625

                River: (2,575) 9 (2 players)
                BB bets 1,400 and is all-in

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                Old 03-24-2013, 09:43 PM   #400
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                  Full Tilt, 25,000/50,000 blinds, 6,000 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16677351

                  BTN: 612,196 (12.2 bb)
                  Hero (SB): 517,467 (10.3 bb)
                  BB: 477,087 (9.5 bb)
                  UTG: 829,652 (16.6 bb)
                  MP: 395,156 (7.9 bb)
                  CO: 975,442 (19.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
                  2 folds, CO raises to 969,442 and is all-in, 1 folds

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                  1: 27.9k
                  2: 17.7k
                  3: 12.8k
                  4: 10.3k
                  5: 7.8k
                  6: 5.7k
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