NSB I really think not cbetting the flop there is a mistake. As played I would fold river.

This is on the bubble of WCOOP#1, villain seemed pretty aggro and loose, did see him open 3x once, only been a n orbit or two at the table.

Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13842252

Hero (BTN): 138,297 (115.2 bb)
SB: 20,284 (16.9 bb)
BB: 193,217 (161 bb)
UTG: 60,137 (50.1 bb)
MP: 133,866 (111.6 bb)
CO: 56,027 (46.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
3 folds, Hero raises to 2,400, SB folds, BB raises to 6,000, Hero...

I like a call here. U should peel incredibly wide here, against that (terrible) sizing, so its nice to have some strond hands in youre calling range too.

Limp the first time.

isn't AJo good enough to raise and call a 3bet in position?

leitalopez, why the fk are you checking the turn w A9

Yes, and definitely at this sizing, but that doesn't mean it's optimal, especially if you're going to make poor decisions when your zOMG TOURNAMENT LIFE is threatened.

bad slowplay:/

Reads :
BTN and BB very loose / passive :
BTN : 50/12/2
BB : 26/6/0
MP : tight

When I open, I hope to get action so I can 4bet.
The BTN squeeze should be very wide, as I saw him take stabs at many spots.

What 4bet sizing ?


Poker Stars $300+$20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t20 - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP1: t9871 M = 24.37
MP2: t3615 M = 8.93
CO: t1590 M = 3.93
BTN: t17145 M = 42.33
SB: t23224 M = 57.34
BB: t17839 M = 44.05
UTG: t3445 M = 8.51
Hero (UTG+1): t10140 M = 25.04
UTG+2: t1821 M = 4.50

Pre Flop: (t405) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to t398, 1 fold, MP1 calls t398, 2 folds, BTN raises to t1050, 1 fold, BB calls t900

you get why its bad though?

2650

PokerStars - Hold'em Tournament - $25/50 Blinds - 9 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

rh300487 (BTN): $10,222
MarkusG91 (SB): $9,925
Ringelsdorf (BB): $9,480
Jozinho6 (UTG): $10,380
DaddyFatStax (UTG+1): $11,470
decamps (MP1): $9,650
rbg187 (MP2): $17,562
23noraB (MP3): $11,236
Aleseed (CO): $10,150

Pre-flop: Dealt to rh300487 K K
Jozinho6 raises to $125, DaddyFatStax calls $125, decamps calls $125, rbg187 calls $125, (1 folds), Aleseed calls $125, rh300487 raises to $565, (3 folds), DaddyFatStax calls $440, decamps calls $440, rbg187 calls $440, Aleseed calls $440

Flop: ($3,025) 4 5 J (5 Players)
DaddyFatStax bets $1,700, decamps calls $1,700, HERO ?????

Quick check wwyd!? donker plays 24/14 and decamps is a reg.

Think i played it correctly but wanted to check what others do there.

If you go bigger pre you don't have this problem! I guess shrug fold now.

I thought I might get more than one caller with that kind of size; tanked for a while than made it 3750, a clearly committing bet that would advertise my hand but get me one caller anyway.

This sizing left me with 1/2 PSB OTF, and I'm getting it in on an any flop of course.

As I got 2 callers, they will call my flop bet most of the time.

Should I have bet a more standard size (2.4K -2.8K), to get closer to a 1 PSB left behind OTF ?

Should I have bet even more, like 5000 ?
Should I size my preflop bet more to like 4bb - 4.25bb, being EP with at least 3 loose players behind ?

Any other considerations ?

What about their play ?

720 pre? Agree folded pretty happy about it. Just always hurts the hard folding pretty pairs

$215 on a Euro site. Villain to my left seems like a very good regular.

I am running like 30/25, he is running 25/20 with a very high 3-bet (13% or so). I have folded to a few of his 3b's and have started tightening up when he has position on me (not sure if he has noticed).

So after a few orbits of quiet, I open KTo BvB at 200/400/ante to 999 with 20k effective (I cover with 40k). He 3'bs to 2300.

Think the size is too large to flat KTo. 4b, shove, or fold?

My default is fold if I felt he was clowning I could make it 5555 and fold or shove. KTo plays real bad vs. get it in ranges and people don't three bet all that wide from the bb because they can defend lots.

Is flatting KTo there really horrible? What about KTs? Surely flatting KJs is okay.

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I think this river spot is interesting to talk about as its the kind of situation that comes up a lot and correcting those mistakes helps you improve a lot more than the random once in a month spots.

IMO very opponent dependant, vs absolute whales i think just Jam they arent folding an Ace and have more in their pf range. Vs weaker fish who might fold an ace to a jam but always call a smaller bet and never turn a hand as strong as top pair into a bluff i like a small bet/f. Vs regs it becomes trickier. I kind of feel like in theory on this river you should be either betting small with your whole range or jamming your whole range. But without a read i would expect vs most regs without any reads or image a small bet/fold is the way to go as they wont turn enough stuff into bluffs and will still prob just click call enough. And i also think vs regs that this a better spot than people think to bluff jam as people call a lot when their range is capped these days but i think in these spots where people think he knows i have an Ace and hes still betting fold more than you would think. So readless throwing balance out of the window i dont like your river jam as i think small bet is best for value and jam as bluff. would be interested to hear opinions

in that hand think its important to note that the way the board runs out makes straight unlikely and flushes impossible feel like people may even call less as people are happier jamming this or AK, but if the board runs out scarier and we can rep a polarised range with a range that is actually less polarised its better?

personally i think 100bb post ante is good but pre ante is closer as altough its not like it really affects ur pot odds vs range i think it makes people play different enough

you 3bet so i assume you meant a different stat? but personally although in general i dont like flatting the sb and think 3betting most of your range has merit, i think as you get towards this deep, without the intention of doing something vs this, then 99 is almost one of the nut hands i would want to have in my flatting range as it sucks so much to be 4bet. Also at these stacks and with this hand one of the primary concerns for not flatting is negated in that the bb may flat or sqz, either or which options i dont think play out too badly for you. Also if the bb is good he will realise these things and sqz less in the first place. So i dont know about a stat but i do know if i 3bet here im not folding when this happens

i would like to see some math on this. because i have always thought that as stacks get shorter this matters less, obv all in it adds to your equity, and at deeper stacks making big flushes for flush over flush situations has more merit. But at such a short pot to stack ratio when we flat does the extra flops where we can realise equity really make that much difference that say Kts is a flat but the raw high card power of a KJo is a fold. At times i have valued suitedness in spots at different amounts and in general i think its over rated with short sprs but guess cant really say without maths

Really really doubt you can valubet this, think his range is just too strong and sometimes with worse hes good enough to turn hands into bluffs and raise. I think if you check you kind of have to check fold as he will be balanced enough in checking back/turning hands into bluffs/ having it. But like you said you have plenty of hands to vb and bluff with, and can definitely check call some aces so you are kind of at the bottom of you showdown range and id be content to just X/f.

Edit: just looked at stacks i think betting as a bluff might be an option as is just a PSB however i think if you are looking to build a range then there are worse hands that could be turned into a bluff

I had a dilema we where 3 handed , in torney of 84 people. I open from button whit A-Q off 10K the small blind raises to 35K (the guy never raises me preflop ) we had 20bb araund 100K each one. In the end I fold my A-Q but I think is very bad decision in a 3 handed situation whit only 20bb. what do you think?