PokerStars Game #18852391897: Tournament #95445213, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/07/15 - 22:52:39 (ET)
Table '95445213 13' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Greg Boston (9160 in chips)
Seat 2: WPThero (12464 in chips)
Seat 3: PlzBelieveMe (22182 in chips)
Seat 4: djk123 (10343 in chips)
Seat 5: FU_15 (13894 in chips)
Seat 6: Big_Nemo (7848 in chips)
Seat 7: divanych1 (9447 in chips)
Seat 8: armenioz (13708 in chips)
Seat 9: Sir_winalot9 (14114 in chips)
Greg Boston: posts the ante 40
WPThero: posts the ante 40
PlzBelieveMe: posts the ante 40
djk123: posts the ante 40
FU_15: posts the ante 40
Big_Nemo: posts the ante 40
divanych1: posts the ante 40
armenioz: posts the ante 40
Sir_winalot9: posts the ante 40
djk123: posts small blind 200
FU_15: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FU_15 [Jd Jh]
Big_Nemo: folds
divanych1: folds
armenioz: folds
Sir_winalot9: folds
Greg Boston: folds
WPThero: folds
PlzBelieveMe: folds
djk123: raises 9903 to 10303 and is all-in
FU_15: calls 9903
*** FLOP *** [Th Tc 4c]
*** TURN *** [Th Tc 4c] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Th Tc 4c 2d] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
djk123: shows [Td Qd] (three of a kind, Tens)
FU_15: shows [Jd Jh] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
djk123 collected 20966 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20966 | Rake 0
Board [Th Tc 4c 2d Kh]
Seat 1: Greg Boston folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: WPThero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PlzBelieveMe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: djk123 (small blind) showed [Td Qd] and won (20966) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 5: FU_15 (big blind) showed [Jd Jh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 6: Big_Nemo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: divanych1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: armenioz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Sir_winalot9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Just would like some thoughts on this shove.....He is jamming 25 bbs at 200 400. risking 10k to win 800 in the middle.

looks pretty std to me

Looks game theoretically optimal to me.

Edit: Also looks like there's 960 in the middle to me.

pwnage

what is this post about?

yeah i like this shove....pretty unexploitable against a player such as urself (comiong from the image of djk)

glorious post by FU_15

so happy to see fu 15 strag

Unexploitable, easy shove.

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This thread is unreal to me.

waddya all talkin about?? r u leveling? if anything is exploitable then this kinda bull****

fu15 fight me

no leveling going on man. you cant exploit an overshove

whats the worst hand we can shove 25bb's with... and be break even??? Given say 66+ A10+ KQ calling range

ohhh and playing unexploitably is disgustingly OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this thread made me smile real wide for obvious reasons

a few include:

-fu_15 criticizing djk
-fu_15 complaining about luck

Any two cards.

Actually to be breakeven, shoving any two cards and then mucking when getting called.

Suboptimal, but nh.

i assume you prefer limp/shoving. how loose is FU_15 calling an open shove compared to how loose he calls a limp/shove?

easy jam

POST MORE!

I'm only openshoving this against very solid players. Vs. mediocre/bad ones I just put QT in the 3x/f range.

But I have some work to do about bvb ranges, so I'd like to know if (and why) this is bad.

Although, I'm definitely shoving up to 18-20bbs vs. someone as aggro as Spew_15.

oh i definitely don't think it's bad and think it's pretty standard/fine, i was just wondering what your preferred line is against FU in this situation (if shoving is suboptimal)

op, please post more strat!

With the antes this shove is unexploitable if djk turns his hand face up and shoves (but not so without the antes).