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End of day 1 1500 euro tourney JJ on turn? End of day 1 1500 euro tourney JJ on turn?

11-25-2013 , 04:59 AM
In the final half of day 1 of a re-entry tournament of 1500 euro (BPC Namur), starting stack is 50k levels of 1h average is around 80k, last hand at blindlevel 500/1000 (200), next hand is 600/1200 (200).

Villain is a LAG player, and has built up a stack of around 150k, I have around 52k. We played alot of pots against eachother before, he always seemed to get the better of me (for example 7 high straight vs 8 high straight).

Villain thought the blind levels already went up so he raises to 2700, I reraise from the SB to 7500 with JJ, he calls.

Flop 236, I bet out 11k, he calls
Turn 7

I have about 33k left, what's my best option here?
11-25-2013 , 05:12 AM
villain is where on table?
11-25-2013 , 05:45 AM
sorry, middle position
11-25-2013 , 06:02 AM
so we arrived at the turn with about 40k in the pot and u have 33k behind?
11-25-2013 , 07:12 AM
How do you feel about going all in?
11-25-2013 , 07:28 AM
I like ch/rshove
11-25-2013 , 07:37 PM
ship
11-25-2013 , 08:59 PM
AI
11-26-2013 , 12:22 AM
Imho, you could go couple of ways.

1)You could size flop pretty small(induce some floats from hands such as jt, qj, aj, hands we do very well against) and then ch/jam turn most of the time.

2)you could, since his perceived range contains a lot of broadways, and some weaker pairs, go for ch/c, ch/c on both flop and turn (when it's a brick at least, otherwise you need to re-evaluate) and hope he gets spazzy with 2 overs, weaker pairs, etc or overvalues his overpair.

3) as played, you sized too big too induce floats, so he almost always has something, and therefore I would be just ripping it in on the turn.

By the way, pretty important to know what position vilain is and wether its a rainbow board etc.

I think I would go for the first option. Sizing flop small'ish and ch/jam turn.
11-26-2013 , 01:40 AM
I like our sizing a lot in relation to the spot/villain. We are probably being floated a lot by air/mid-pairs being put on AK sort of hand. I am checking this turn and snapping off any action. If he checks back I am sticking to most rivers.
11-30-2013 , 10:33 AM
Couldn't post earlier since I was mobile and didn't remember my password ... What actually happened is I led out for 15k, and tankcalled his shove knowing I was probably behind... He showed sevens and I was out the door.

So littlegoliath's 3rd option was a fact, perhaps I should have bet less on the flop and then ch/called his turn bet and reevaluate on the river...

thanks for the pointers/replies, I went on finishing 3rd in a side-event of 800 € for 12k € after we made a 3-way deal and before the main event I finished 4th in a 220 € side so had a good week. At the moment also second on the Belgian Poker Challange leaderboard for some added value so very happy.
11-30-2013 , 10:39 AM
o & if i remember correctly it was 2 spades / 2 clubs on the turn
11-30-2013 , 02:45 PM
I don't like it but I am prolly shoving
12-01-2013 , 12:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Imho, you could go couple of ways.

1)You could size flop pretty small(induce some floats from hands such as jt, qj, aj, hands we do very well against) and then ch/jam turn most of the time.

2)you could, since his perceived range contains a lot of broadways, and some weaker pairs, go for ch/c, ch/c on both flop and turn (when it's a brick at least, otherwise you need to re-evaluate) and hope he gets spazzy with 2 overs, weaker pairs, etc or overvalues his overpair.

3) as played, you sized too big too induce floats, so he almost always has something, and therefore I would be just ripping it in on the turn.

By the way, pretty important to know what position vilain is and wether its a rainbow board etc.

I think I would go for the first option. Sizing flop small'ish and ch/jam turn.
+1 to all of this. Nice post
12-01-2013 , 10:20 PM
shove? not happy about it but we cant check and give V a free card to catch a weird 2 pair or a Q K A. i think we could get called by 88-TT (unlikely V has those hands but its possible)

      
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