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Confused on the river in 162$ Confused on the river in 162$

04-01-2012 , 05:05 PM
Bettor = reg, shipper = 30/13 with low AF. I make weird turncheck then decide my ace is good on the river trying to rep 88 turning into a bluff. Then guy ships and I can't figure out what he has... 22 makes sense but does a passive guy ship that? Bluff seems unlikely but wtf. Does he ever check back 77 twice or something? :/

Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds + t5 - 8 players
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SB: t2340 M = 18
BB: t2030 M = 15.62
Hero (UTG): t7105 M = 54.65
UTG+1: t3974 M = 30.57
MP1: t5801 M = 44.62
MP2: t2885 M = 22.19
CO: t3755 M = 28.88
BTN: t2110 M = 16.23

Pre Flop: (t130) Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to t150, UTG+1 calls t150, 4 folds, SB calls t120, 1 fold

Flop: (t550) K 6 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: (t550) A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

River: (t550) 2 (3 players)
SB bets t188, Hero raises to t720, UTG+1 raises to t3819 all in, SB folds
04-01-2012 , 08:44 PM
really easy fold. Also just bet the turn or flat river, your line is FPS
04-01-2012 , 08:51 PM
especially with the sb still to act after leading.
it's pretty fancy but if utg+1 folds and sb ships it seems more of a call (not saying it is) just because i feel you get shoved on by worse more often than you get called by worse (not that many ax in flatting range pre, ats maybe, weaker axs maybe since utg flatted but prob not with his stack and even if he does a few of them are two pair

Last edited by OMGClayDol; 04-01-2012 at 08:53 PM. Reason: err not still to act but as in his ship is even more scary lol
04-02-2012 , 12:15 AM
290 on turn and spot will be much clear
04-02-2012 , 03:25 AM
I think your line is ok and I guess I fold now but I make weird faces at the computer first
04-02-2012 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverScaredB
I think your line is ok and I guess I fold now but I make weird faces at the computer first
Agree
04-02-2012 , 05:40 PM
don't raise the river
04-02-2012 , 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagles
don't raise the river
Guy bet 1/3 pot, I don't think raising is mandatory but it's justifiable.
04-02-2012 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagles
don't raise the river
This is the least discussable part of the hand to me, I look full of crap and he almost never has me beat. Saying not to raise seems results oriented.

I can bet turn, but I'm pretty sure most of what I check on this flop is ace highs and mid pairs. To protect my mid pairs that I don't want to turn into a bluff I check an ace as well sometimes.

I did shrug and fold. Still can't put him on a single hand though. Like, does a set of ducks really just go all in? Does a fish ever think I'm full of crap and just pulls the trigger after giving up? Dunno
04-03-2012 , 09:22 AM
River raise is getting called by what AT-A8, a5-a3, and kx, our hand doesn't look like a bluff at all, because we have a a very cbet able flop (I would bet this flop 80%), and turn a great barrel card for a delayed cbet, and our range is capped otr.

Raising will never fold out better (because practically nobody folds two pair or a set), may fold out worse, and allows us to get re bluffed off our hand, because our range is so weak.
04-03-2012 , 10:28 AM
it looks like you got out-FPS'd by the fish in utg+1 and was just hoping you guys hit the Ace and probably jizzed himself when u raised river thinking he would get your stack by shoving his set of 7s

      
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