About 290 left in the WPN Milly, 215 pay. I have 125k at 1500 BB. Avg stack around 53K. I have a top 25 stack. 200K up top. "TheCleaner11" playing from the Netherlands has been on my direct left the entire time (we are the only two people surviving from original table draw); two friends insist that it's actually Van Hoof and he seems to be playing well enough for this to be the case, but I have no verification for this.

I'm going to delve right into results because I think it's important for analysis of the preflop decision. The Cleaner opens in early position to 3500 with JJ. A SB who had been playing erratically and it was my impression instinctively wouldn't understand concept of fold equity in this spot jams for around 12500 from SB with KTo. I flat 66 in the big blind, thinking it's profitable call vs SB and we'll get to realize our one pair equity vs the Cleaner, who I didn't think would be brazen enough to bluff into dry sidepot. I also think this deep that set mining implied odds could come into play to a certain degree although against someone as good as Van Hoof, might just need to neglect that as a rationale for calling in this spot. Flop is J63ssx. Check check. Turn Kx. I bet 25K. Cleaner calls. River Qx. I jam and Cleaner snaps and we blow our top 25 stack lickety split.

Three people I've discussed the hand with who I respect hate my preflop flat. Want to see if anyone will defend it in this space this deep or whether I'm just going to have to suck this one up as a defenseless punt. Are we isoing our entire range here after SB jams for 8 bigs with hands like AA or KK or would we ever flat in this spot with those hands to induce? What hands should we expect Cleaner to flat here as opposed to iso? Does Cleaner have enough hands that he can call with on the river vs a very strong bet from me to make my play a profitable value shove?

Feel free to insult my preflop call vociferously.

Your 3 friends. Listen to them more. Also the river overpot(slightly) shove is bad.

preflop is an easy fold

not really sure about how to play our continuing range here, when you say V was in EP what position specifically? there's a difference between UTG and +2

and yeah riv should be a much smaller sizing, prolly something like 35k is good

unreg pre

What`s "lickety split" man tho? O_o
I remind there were "Lickety split" in "The 8th mile" movie, is it the same thing?

what do you bluff otr to make him interested in herocalling you on a runout where you both have bunch of sets (if he expects you to coldcall overpairs) and barely any air?

Eh preflop no,

Also OTR, you don't expect him to flat JJ+? I doubt he calls your shove here with AK or KQ or some QJ. Probably betting 3/4 of side pot OTR

Postflop seems fine, preflop is really really bad though. You don't beat sb shoving range and utg will rarely fold this deep. Which sucks for us as we're not ahead of his range. On top of that 66 plays very poorly 3way. Postflop seems fine, you got set over setted in a pot that was 25bb before the flop.

river you should consider c/do something depending on cleaner's sizing since the fd missed

hate your flat pre too. calling for purely set mining purpose oop this deep is pretty bad.