Did i play it wrong or was it just unlucky blah-blah gg?

over 2 hours sunday warmup running and Im pretty ok at 40place outa 800?.
Blinds were 500/1000 and my stack 48 000/average 13 000.

So i get bigslick AKsuited UTG and raise 5000. Everyone folds untill it comes to my tables ChipLeader (55000chips) who calls.

We headsup on this hand and flop gives AQ2
CL c-bets 5000
Me calls 5000
Turn some low card
CL bets 10 000
Me calls 10 000
River some lowcard rainbow board
CL pushes all in after a long dramatic pause
I call and CL jumps to 1st place in tourney with he´s deuce trips.

So... was i just unlucky? My raise 5000 was half of my tables average stack and i was ready to all in preflop with everyone else but this fakin biggertack

utg 5x opening poor donk , lol

Nice cbet by CL!!!!

Oh, and your raise was < than half of (your stack + CL's stack) / 10

Thats why every poll needs the BASTARD! part, so when there's no answer that makes any sense, you can at least swear at the OP.

why raising 5xbb?? and then: what did u put him on? he can have AQ, AJ-, set, bluff. do you think he would play AJ- this way? do you think he is pulling off a big bluff against the 2nd cl? ur hand is a bluffcatcher and its somewhat unlikely that he is bluffing...

I don't agree with the consensus. I don't like 5xBB UTG at this stage, but it is not that terrible in the Sunday Million.

Also, the pot is a large part of your stack before the flop betting, so I would have trouble folding TPTK. I don't think stacking off is terrible.

Given the strength of your preflop raise OOP and the long pause, folding the river might be correct. People may 3-barrel an ace high flop as the raiser, but usually not as the caller. Also, there were not a lot of draws there.

I also don't like the 5xBB raise UTG, as I don't really like 5x in general preflop, but than beyond that, being UTG should be doing all the work for you to signal strength, so there is no need to risk more of your stack do it. In fact it looks like weakness.

My second problem is just calling on the flop. You have TPTK and I think now is the time that you should make a decision on your hand, because there aren't going to be many cards coming that will help your hand improve. I think you definitely need to re-raise instead of turning control of the hand over to villain.

Post flop play looks like your just in here to get a cheap showdown by showing no resistance whatsoever. I think that by pushing back somewhere during this hand, you can fold out weak aces and queens, which would make your river decision much easier, because there should be less there to shove with that you have beat.

Also, don't post results please

what tournaments do you play? running good?

I generally play between 50-200 and have been running pretty well lately. I am guessing you disagree with my analysis. I am here to get better and learn, so I would really like to know why if you would care to elaborate.

yeah its true that i disagree completely with ur suggested line.

1) "My second problem is just calling on the flop. You have TPTK and I think now is the time that you should make a decision on your hand. (...) I think you definitely need to re-raise instead of turning control of the hand over to villain."

a. i dont know why it is important not to give up control over the hand. what do you gain by taking over the control again. the only thing happens is that u r bloating the pot and commit yourself and play for your whole stack. why do you want to play for whole healthy stack against the cl with a single pair? isnt it much more important to keep control over the potsize than "control over the hand".

b. now lets give villain a range. what is he calling a huge UTG raise with from the blinds? your assumption is that he is calling with Ax or Qx. would you call in this spot with a hand like AJ or QT? and if so, would you ever think he is betting Qx or AJ- this hard against the utg pfa? i think not but even if so, there is still no need to raise b/c we are wa/wb. if we raise only hands that have us beat will call/push the other hands are folding. and we have position.

2) "Post flop play looks like your just in here to get a cheap showdown by showing no resistance whatsoever"

u assume that villain can put him on a weak A and can be bluffed off this by an even worse A or a queen. but why should villain put hero on a weak A? who is raising utg with bad aces? as hero played the hand on the turn it exactly looked like AK, maybe AQ. moreover, why should villain pull off a big
bluff in that spot? there is absolutely no need for him to randomly attack the 2nd cl who was the utg raiser with an airball here???

so the question is a 3fold: 1) is he bluffing? 2) is he betting a hand worse than TPTK for value? 3) is he betting 2pair or better 4 value?

1) a complete airball just doesnt make any sense in this spot

2) he calls a huge UTG raise with AJ or worse and going all the way by lead betting hard. thats unusual even in a 5$ tourney

3) here we go. by excluding possibilities 1 and 2 we find our answer

If you had not raised to 5k preflop, maybe this hand would not have cost you all your chips.
Once you make a raise like that, then call twice with an ace on board, he KNOWS you are calliing his river bet and he will get all your chips.
Now if you knew he knew this, you'd also know he has you beat and you can fold.
However, going bust here is not terrible but going bust like that on the river could have been avoided.

Thank you for elaborating, your explanations were very helpful

My only other question is though, why couldn't villain be doing this very thin. Isn't a 5x UTG raise usually either a solid hand that won't hold up well post flop (99, 1010 etc..) or a monster that you you want to stack off with (giving big implied odds)? Then an A Q high flop would be a great spot for villain to bluff, which is good for our hand, but then the river shove comes and we never differentiated between villain holding: a bluff, hands that beat under pairs, or sets.

It's nice to say fold when you see the results. Once you get that much in preflop, I don't think many people fold TPTK.

If villain had not led into the raiser, it would have been even harder to get away from AK here.

The main problem with 5xBB UTG is that it puts you on a narrow range, 88+, AQ+, maybe tighter, and gives your opponents too much information.

thanks for your good advice. After all id made up my mind how i was going to call any raise unless the board paired or flushed..this was just one of these "feelings"(AK. gives extra balls).

For my defense it happens also to the best

Here´s one imper1ums copypaste of a similar situation. Ive made some changes for copywrite reasons

Now, before you make judgments on how bad of a play this is, there are a couple of things to consider. First of all, I remember thinking in my head that this is the spot where CL is going to repop me. I envisioned it that had it bee folded around to CL he would re-raise me with any two cards. Also his re-raise amount kind of said "NO, you're not the table captain, I'm the table captain, don't raise MY blinds. Please fold". Obviously I know that CL doesn't care about the bubble but he might think that I do. Sometimes I think about things way too deep and eventually sway away from my initial read (and its usually when I think I should fold and then convince myself to call). This wasn't one of those situations, I was actually pretty confident he would fold. In my head, shoving seemed like the best play, and there was nothing I could do to change that, I was already decided.

wat?

/killself

fyp...

Anyways the pot is very big, I shove the turn because you probably have the best hand a lot and worse hands can still call.

isn't "don't include results" right there in the faq?

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i dont know what op is talking about in his last post

It would have helped if OP had stated what his table image was . . . if it was tight / solid then CL knows you're *serious* with the x5 UTG open and is highly unlikely to take his line with just a pair. The all in at the river should have told u all u needed to know.

just lol

IMHO, playing TPTK strong feels so much better when we have villian covered. His line is textbook for flopping a 2pr+ hand. I don't think too many responders have given the CL his due. He's never 3 barrel bluffing here.