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109$ - Sick spot on turn, is river bluff here OK w/o history?

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03-12-2010 , 10:28 PM

absolutefish

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Haven't got much history with this guy, but he's been fairly active and semibluffing turns weak, so can I float + bluff river ok here.

He's running 23/21/3, with 11% 3b.

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t725 M = 3.22
UTG: t5075 M = 22.56
UTG+1: t1050 M = 4.67
MP1: t1800 M = 8
MP2: t4960 M = 22.04
Hero (CO): t10140 M = 45.07
BTN: t1930 M = 8.58
SB: t1510 M = 6.71

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is CO with 2

UTG calls t150, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150, MP2 raises to t450, Hero calls t450, 3 folds, UTG calls t300, 1 fold

Flop: (t1725) 8

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t900, UTG folds, MP2 calls t900

Turn: (t3525) T

(2 players)
MP2 bets t450, Hero calls t450

River: (t4425) A

(2 players)
MP2 bets t900, Hero raises to t3450, MP2 folds

03-13-2010 , 04:57 AM

absolutefish

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Input is appreciated.

03-13-2010 , 05:12 AM

ekky

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preflop seems quite the travesty.. flop is ambitious, turn (plan) is adventurous, and river is something that works infrequently but makes you feel like Phil Galfond when it does, so thats ok.

Overall marks are a frankly generous 2 out of 10.

03-13-2010 , 06:23 AM

alekhine11

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Just like river,previous streets are pretty bad IMO,particularly pre and flop sizing.

03-13-2010 , 07:33 AM

CaliStyle

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Check flop, fold river.

03-13-2010 , 12:03 PM

fattony7891

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I don't play tourneys but it looks bad all over.

03-13-2010 , 12:15 PM

Aguskb

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fold pre

03-13-2010 , 12:18 PM

jon_midas

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fold pre, fold flop, turn is weird, like river as played. Villain played this horribly as well. This is a mess.

03-13-2010 , 09:32 PM

JesseB_11

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def fold pre...
if you want to spew i prefer a turn shove

03-13-2010 , 09:46 PM

#10

poker edge

Pooh-Bah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_midas

fold pre, fold flop, turn is weird, like river as played. Villain played this horribly as well. This is a mess.

Can you please post advice that is actaully possible to use.

Hint - Folding flop is impossible.

03-13-2010 , 09:47 PM

#11

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Pooh-Bah

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1. Fold pre.
2. Check flop.
3. Fold turn.
4. Fold river.

If your guna spaz shove turn.

03-14-2010 , 12:56 AM

#12

Derbos

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poker edge

Hint - Folding flop is impossible.

Hint - Your wrong.

03-14-2010 , 07:35 AM

#13

absolutefish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derbos

Hint - Your wrong.

Hint - your grammar sucks.

03-14-2010 , 09:00 AM

#14

Platefish

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People are saying FOLD PRE because they don't like playing small pairs unless deep. Well clearly OP makes the call with a huge range knowing he can outplay villain with ATC. 22 just happens to be his hand.

Villain almost always has a flush draw with this line, the only problem I have with shoving the river is if he has AXss (which I think could be highly likely). I wouldn't be comfortable with shoving the turn as 5Xss and TXss wake up and leave us with 1 out. In this spot it's best to see villain miss his draw and then we can make a much safer shove than if we do it on the turn as some tard posted above.

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