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Why am I not losing weight? Why am I not losing weight?

02-16-2012 , 02:17 AM
I am getting a bit tilted with my lack of results trying to drop 20-30 pounds.

I have been quite militant with my diet, I eat small meals several times a day, I drink almost exclusivly water, I have cut out all processed foods ( a few cheats here and there, but very small)

A typical day is eggs for breakfast, sometimes a protein bar.
mid morning maybe a small handful of almonds or a kiwi
Lunch is usually protein heavy, leftover meat from prior nite dinner
beef jerky or fruit or protein bar in mid afternoon
Dinner is usually a lean meat, salad with romaine, HB eggs, red pepper, tomato along with a veg... usually green beans or peas or broccoli or cauliflower.
I have whey w/ water a couple times a day and usually a casein w/ water at nite before bed.
I also drink at least 2 liters of water per day.

I have been doing some HIIT, usually 30-45 minutes 3-4 times a week, and throw in lifting at what I consider a moderate level. (some shoulder problems, so press lifts are lighter weight than I can lift without sharp pains, but I do hi reps)

It has been 3 weeks of this, and I have actually gained 1 pound... it is getting discouraging with the work and effort I am putting in. I have maintained my current weight for 1+ years just by watching diet (loosely)... why work out and be so restrictive with diet if I am not losing weight?

I'm a solidish 225-230 lbs at 6'1", just trying to lose the extra ab flab.... at 205 I am looking better than 90% of 40+ year old men... it's just not coming off.

Am I doing something wrong?
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02-16-2012 , 02:45 AM
well, you didn't type "calories" a single time. start there imo.
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02-16-2012 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
Am I doing something wrong?
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
and throw in lifting at what I consider a moderate level. (some shoulder problems, so press lifts are lighter weight than I can lift without sharp pains, but I do hi reps)
I think this might be it. Not sure, though.
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02-16-2012 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo

It has been 3 weeks of this, and I have actually gained 1 pound... it is getting discouraging with the work and effort I am putting in. I have maintained my current weight for 1+ years just by watching diet (loosely)... why work out and be so restrictive with diet if I am not losing weight?
Well if you are doing all that and not losing weight, the reason you are working out is to maintain your weigh or else you'll get fat.

Seriously though, from the looks of it you do look like you're exercising enough that whatever calories you're eating should be a deficit, but clearly it isn't. Take time to write down the exact calorie count of what you're eating for a couple days and you'll probably be surprised you're eating more calories than you think you are. Include oil for cooking, marinades, dressings, etc.

If you find the number to be absurdly low like 2200 and it's accurate, guess you're just super unlucky and will have to cut off a couple hundred calories somewhere or add in another session of calorie burning activity somewhere.
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02-16-2012 , 04:49 AM
I just learned that a medium sized cheesecake has like 5000 calories, maybe that's your problem as well.
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02-16-2012 , 08:38 AM
eat more nuts
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02-16-2012 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by McBeef
eat less nuts
DUCY?

Last edited by Pummi81; 02-16-2012 at 08:55 AM. Reason: Also, cheese cake is awesome.
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02-16-2012 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
I have been doing some HIIT, usually 30-45 minutes 3-4 times a week,
If everything you say is true, especially the HIIT, you are one unlucky bastard. What does your HIIT program look like? 30-45 min 3-4 times a week seems like alot.
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02-16-2012 , 09:17 AM
that's a lot of protein supplements for your exercise regime. if you are not using it to fuel your exercise then it gets stored as fat. first i would cut out the one before bed and one of the other ones you drink during the day.
edit: also, you should add more veg in with your meat in all your meals.
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02-16-2012 , 09:30 AM
OP, if you're even half-serious, Miles' post is on the money.

This thread reminds me of a Leigh Peele & Martin Berhkan interview:
http://www.leighpeele.com/martin-ber...ting-interview

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In this context, let’s classify a ‘mistake’ as a behavior that isn’t conducive to achieving a set goal. The first mistake is linked to diet, and I’ll outline a conversation between me and another IF’er to illustrate my point.

IF’er: I feel great on IF, but I’m not losing any weight. Please help!

Me: Very well then. Tell me about your diet.

IF’er: I fast 20 hours a day and I follow a strict low carb Paleo diet. I lost 10 lbs in two months and now my fat loss seems to have stalled. Do you think there’s anything wrong with my metabolism? Maybe I should try alternate day fasting instead. You know, to get a better growth hormone release and effectively mobilize the fat.

Me: But how about your calorie intake? What’s the macrocomposition of your diet?

IF’er: Like I told you, I keep a Paleo Diet. No processed foods. I eat meat, veggies, lots of fatty fish, whole eggs and nuts. I eat berries now and then, but I limit my fruit intake and I don’t eat any dairy. I don’t really know how many calories I’m eating.

This conversation took place just a few hours ago, and pretty much sums up what I think a large group of people is missing. Here, all the focus is on the method, not the process. While this individual had some success with a ‘lifestyle’ approach to dieting, by making dietary changes that brought about fat loss without actively paying attention to calorie intake, that style of dieting eventually stops working.

Recall that the body is extremely adept at making you stop losing fat, and by allowing spontaneous eating, even if restricted to select ‘ healthy’ food items, people are inviting plateaus. It’s actually pretty easy to undo hours of fasting with an uncontrolled food intake when the feeding phase starts – even with healthy, ‘clean’ foods. For example, nuts, typically consumed by low carbers and the paleo clique (which also tends to be the groups of people often experimenting with IF), is being pushed as the second coming of Christ and an ‘optimal’ snack, yet contains more calories than chocolate on a unit per unit basis. Chocolate is a big no no for many dieters, yet nuts are ok? Sure, nuts have a decent fatty acid profile, but they’re worthless as a protein source and there’s a lot better ways to get your essential fatty acids than snacking on nuts, especially if you want to lose weight. Rationalizing the consumption of nuts in favor for the exclusion of fruit and dairy is absurd, especially since the latter are less calorie dense and has shown to exert a positive effect on satiety and fat loss.

Simply put, people are missing the forest for the trees. Reality check: even if IF might have benefits not seen with other diet approaches, it doesn’t magically alter the human metabolism. Calories count, regardless of the method used, and people needs to learn that. I guess this scenario is just as common among followers of any other diet approach out there, but I’ll throw it out there just to make sure everyone understands that you can’t get away with an excessive calorie intake just because you’re doing IF [or "clean eating" or whatever] Some people reading this will go ‘no ****, Sherlock, I knew that’ but the same people don’t have the slightest clue about what the average dieter knows or doesn’t know. Trust me, I’ve had more than my share of clients that thought fat loss was all about watching your carbs and staying away from dairy.
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02-16-2012 , 09:38 AM
Is it possible that OP is losing body fat while staying at the same weight?
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02-16-2012 , 10:04 AM
That'd mean that he must be gaining muscle at the same time, no?
Which, while not entirely impossible, is very unlikely.
And prolly even more unlikely in OP's case.
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo
...and throw in lifting at what I consider a moderate level. (some shoulder problems, so press lifts are lighter weight than I can lift without sharp pains, but I do hi reps)...
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02-16-2012 , 10:11 AM
Keep in mind that your scale is useless when it comes to determining bf%. You are probably packing on muscle, that's why you haven't lost any "weight".

Keep doing what you're doing, the results will come. Start drinking some green or white tea too for a small boost.

http://www.ergo-log.com/eatingmoreprotein.html
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02-16-2012 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ginko
Keep in mind that your scale is useless when it comes to determining bf%.
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Originally Posted by ginko
You are probably packing on muscle, that's why you haven't lost any "weight".
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Originally Posted by ginko
Keep doing what you're doing, the results will come.
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Originally Posted by ginko
Start drinking some green or white tea too for a small boost.
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Originally Posted by ginko
JFC no.
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02-16-2012 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbobo

I have been doing some HIIT, usually 30-45 minutes 3-4 times a week,
HIIT for 35-40 minutes???? A unfit 40+year old is unlikely to last more than 10 seconds of true HIIT. HIIT burns over 1000 calories per hour. At 30 seconds a week, you may burn 10 or 15 calories that week. Running extremely slowly burns about 500 cals per hour. But you may be capable of running 90 minutes to 2 hours the 1st week. Although a inbetween pace would burn 750 cals/wk. 10 minutes a day for 6 days; rest the 7th day. I think that works best. Increase the minutes every week.

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It has been 3 weeks of this,
WOW, a whole 3 weeks. lol

Walking may be a better way to perform cardio. It may take weeks or even months to be able to walk the 10,000 steps a day.
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02-16-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Funnie II
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JFC no.
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02-16-2012 , 12:48 PM
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02-16-2012 , 01:10 PM
solid argument lol
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02-16-2012 , 01:40 PM
Yea, he should definitely keep doing what he has been doing, if he wants to keep not losing weight.
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02-16-2012 , 01:44 PM
Re-reading the OP, this is an incredible example (hopefully real) of how focusing on the wrong things can screw results and why axiomatic approaches, even when sometimes helpful, are useless when the underlying mechanisms aren't understood. More simply, it's a great example of why broscience can, yet often doesn't work.

Bobo, hopefully this is constructive, for you and other readers.

The OP was
> eating several small meals a day (to stoke the metabolic fire)
> being militant with his diet (if it tastes good, spit it out)
> cut out processed foods (they're bad for you and make you fat)
> whey/casein (covering the fast and slow bases)
> HIIT 3-4 times a week (afterburn effect)
> high-rep lifting (for the toned look)

All this has resulted in is stalled progress and frustration- a stark but familiar reminder of how insidious and ineffective lay nonsense is in H&F, and why not understanding the basic mechanisms (of physiological change and adaptation) and the couple of key points ("big rocks") can be so crippling.
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02-16-2012 , 01:59 PM
Who wants to lose "weight"? I thought the goal is to increase muscle mass and lose body fat %.

I assume that's what OP wants.

A weight scale is useless in determining body fat %. OP could be gaining muscle, yet you guys assume he's not.

He's eating good. He's exercising frequently. He's combining resistance training with HIIT. He's eating a lot of protein.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he's probably gaining some quality muscle mass. Three weeks is not a substantial time frame to draw conclusions, especially when not monitoring BF%.

If you guys bothered to read the link I posted(an article talking about a study, which is cited), you would realize that there is data articulating that a high protein diet increases lean body mass.

Muscle weighs more than fat.

But please, continue with the brotelligence.
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02-16-2012 , 02:01 PM
OH BRO YOU DIDNT
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02-16-2012 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ginko
Who wants to lose "weight"? I thought the goal is to increase muscle mass and lose body fat %.

I assume that's what OP wants.


Why in the world would you assume OP doesn't want to lose weight, when the title and first sentence of his post mention that he wants to lose weight?
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02-16-2012 , 02:05 PM
if you want to lose the most weight possible, just drop your cals under 1,000/day and do tons of slow/steady state cardio. You'll look like Bale in the Machinist in no time.
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02-16-2012 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by anklebreaker
Re-reading the OP, this is an incredible example (hopefully real) of how focusing on the wrong things can screw results and why axiomatic approaches, even when sometimes helpful, are useless when the underlying mechanisms aren't understood. More simply, it's a great example of why broscience can, yet often doesn't work.

Bobo, hopefully this is constructive, for you and other readers.

The OP was
> eating several small meals a day (to stoke the metabolic fire)
> being militant with his diet (if it tastes good, spit it out)
> cut out processed foods (they're bad for you and make you fat)
> whey/casein (covering the fast and slow bases)
> HIIT 3-4 times a week (afterburn effect)
> high-rep lifting (for the toned look)

All this has resulted in is stalled progress and frustration- a stark but familiar reminder of how insidious and ineffective lay nonsense is in H&F, and why not understanding the basic mechanisms (of physiological change and adaptation) and the couple of key points ("big rocks") can be so crippling.
How is this constructive when you just reiterate his post without adding any new information?

Care to expand on these "underlying mechanisms"? I'm legitimately curious.
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