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07-05-2013 , 04:14 PM
Well the 3rd is the most variable but you should be able to have an idea of what you can hit based off your training. You might be ten or so pounds off of what you can hit but that shouldn't make the 85 93 numbers that out of wack.
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07-05-2013 , 04:20 PM
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Your squat and deaddlift plans both look pretty good. I dont know about warming up at 315 though. I think if your going to warm up with your opener you might want to open a tad lower at like 303 or 308
yup. I expect everyone at the meet to question what I'm doing too.

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Both cha and weasel,

I'd lower both your squat openers. Make it 85% of your goal and smoke it, which for both of you means taking 4-5kg off.

Cha, that's a bizarre bench plan. 10 pound jumps seems nuts.
squat - you think 402 or 408 is better to open with? I want 441 as the second lift (that weight is satisfactory to me if I miss the 3rd attempt), then will pick my 3rd attempt based on how hard that feels. Probably ~463.

bench, yeah, I know. Here's how my last two bench PRs went:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2288

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2011

Jumps of 20, 11, 15 on the last one; jumps of 20, 11, 11 with a fail, then succeeded with that same weight on the previous one.

I feel like if I jump too much when the weight is heavy, I'm not ready for it. I know how to exert myself pretty hard benching, and I dont fully do that until I get pretty close to a max attempt. Often when I do singles, it feels like I can go close to my heaviest attempt and then get a little more on a another try later.

I read something on Elitefts recently (might have been Tate, not sure though) that said when benching, if you do a heavier single before sets of 3s or 5s, that can make you a little stronger for the work sets. I think that is true for me. My bench muscles dont get exhausted until I've done something very close to max effort, as long as I get 5+ minutes rest between sets. An extra rep of 315 wont tire me out at all.
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07-05-2013 , 05:44 PM
are you any serious risk to miss 441? then choose the lower opener.

as for not having a variable approach to the 3rd, I guess that's fine, but I've always felt like I have a very good idea about what I'm good for, and I have a # in mind of what I want to hit.
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07-05-2013 , 08:36 PM
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are you any serious risk to miss 441? then choose the lower opener.

as for not having a variable approach to the 3rd, I guess that's fine, but I've always felt like I have a very good idea about what I'm good for, and I have a # in mind of what I want to hit.
I think I'm a solid favorite to hit 441, and if I did miss it, I'd be more of a favorite on the last attempt. If I hit 441, I'd want to try at least 463 on the 3rd attempt because that would be a 5.5 lb PR, but if 441 feels easy enough, I might go higher. fwiw, my last meet I planned for 452 on the 3rd attempt. The 2nd at 436 wasnt too hard, so I went for, and got 457. 457 was very hard.
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07-07-2013 , 03:08 PM
Sorry to sidetrack your log Weasel, but this is related to the bench press meet strategy we've been discussing. Check out this guy's numbers:

485 501.5 507



Maybe I'm onto something.
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07-07-2013 , 04:30 PM
lol APF for white lighting the 2nd and 3rd.
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07-07-2013 , 04:57 PM
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lol APF for white lighting the 2nd and 3rd.
yeah, people like you & I get red lighted on those. Almost all of the heaviest bench presses I've seen would get red lighted if I'm doing 325 in my meets. These judges have different standards for their buddies.

None of that was why I posted that though. That's a guy who's a way stronger bencher than me, and he's taking small jumps in weight.

KC - take a look at my log plz. 421 squat went up easy last night. I'm probably going to go 424 463 ~485. Tell me your thoughts over there so we dont side-track Weasel's log more.
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07-07-2013 , 05:25 PM
Cha,

Just cause he's stronger doesn't mean it's the right way to do it though. Taking small jumps like that will make your best possible total lower but your lowest possible total higher
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07-09-2013 , 09:57 PM
Week 13 day 1

Worked up to openers today

Squat
355x1 @7
395x1 @8

Bench
235x1 @7
275x1 @8

DL
495x1 @8

Everything felt terrible today. I missed my last workout Friday and Ive been drunk from the 4th to yesterday non stop. Pretty terrible way to prepare for the meet.

I was at a bar on the 4th and saw some chick I havent seen in like 5 years. She was like wow you look like you've been working out, your chest is bigger than mine. WTF cut cut cut
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07-09-2013 , 11:11 PM
Don't bomb out so you miss qualifying for the IPL world meet!
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07-10-2013 , 04:34 PM
Thanks Cha, lol. If I bomb out on squats Ill just get drunk and film all your attempts so it wont be that bad

Mike T. just emailed me what he thinks should be my planned attempts. Any comments? Bench looks really weird to me.

400/440/470 for squat. For bench I'd run: 265/285/295. For deadlift I'd run 505/535/560
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07-12-2013 , 01:05 AM
Last work out before the meet. Just worked up to last warm up set before openers

Squat W/ Belt
355x1 @7

Bench
235x1 @7

Deadlift
405x1 @6
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07-12-2013 , 10:22 AM
good luck!!
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07-12-2013 , 12:34 PM
Thanks Aidan. Did you decide when you are going to max out?
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07-12-2013 , 12:42 PM
gl!
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07-12-2013 , 02:18 PM
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Thanks Aidan. Did you decide when you are going to max out?
All on for this afternoon/evening. Aiming for s405, b235 (pr), d425(pr), with reach goals of 425 (pr), 240, 445.
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07-15-2013 , 01:12 PM
Meet write up

Weighed in at 232.2

Squat

They called my name as the first lifter so I went and squatted. I planned on opening at 395. The weight felt super light after I was done so i looked at the bored and they called me on accident. They had the weight at 303 for someone else. I told the judge and he said i could keep that attempt or wait til the end of the 1st attempts and attempt my opener but then I would have to do my second like 2 lifters after that. I chose that route but then like 3 lifters later they called my name againg and the judge changed his mind and said i could retake my opener there so thats what I did.

395 3 white lights

second attempt was 429 and that was good with 3 white lights

3rd attempt was 451. KC showed up right before this. I hit 451 with 3 white lights for a 33lb meet pr and it was pretty much my true max. KC said it was an ugly squat. Cha gave me some form and mobility tips to work on so hopefully that helps in the future.

Bench

Opened at 265 and it was easy

second attempt was 286 and it was pretty easy as well. 21 lb meet pr

297 for third attempt was a miss. Got it like 2 inches off my chest

Deadlifts

I switched to hook grip like 4 weeks ago cause my wrist had been hurting doing altnerate grip. I saw a lifter i knew and he said he got red lighted on the deadlift for the bar slipping in his hand. This made me pretty nervous cause i have never used hook grip in a meet. During warm ups I tore the skin off my thumb pretty badly. Cha found someone that had athletic tap so I taped my thumbs and this helped the hook grip a lot.

Opened with 505 and it was easy. Loco said it looked like 225

Second was 536 and it felt tough but loco said it looked pretty easy again

3rd was 562. It flew up off the floor but almost got stuck like 1 inch from lockout but I grinded through it and locked it out. 26lb meet pr.

Total 1299 for a 81 lb meet pr.

Cha has all the video so that should be up after he gets back.

It was nice meeting loco, cha, and KC. They are all real nice guys.
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07-15-2013 , 01:50 PM
Impressive as usual.
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07-15-2013 , 02:23 PM
Nice job!
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07-15-2013 , 09:37 PM
Thanks!

Next meet is the IPL worlds in early November. Goal is 600 deadlift and 300 bench

Squat w/ belt X5 @9
335X5 @8
370X5 @9

Comp Bench x5 @9

225x5 @8
250x5 @9

2 ct pause bench x3 @9

230x3 @8
230x3 @9
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07-15-2013 , 10:16 PM
it was an ugly squat, but frankly grinding out ugly squats is pretty impressive to me. that's some actual real strength vs technique strength. You're a pretty damn big dude (bigger than you look in vids here) and you pull an assload. No reason you can't squat 500 in the next year or so. Just need to shore up some stuff.

I was only there for 20-30 mins but man that meet seemed like a massive cluster****. Lol @ making lifters follow the board instead of calling who's on deck/in the hole/4 out.
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07-16-2013 , 02:09 AM
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it was an ugly squat, but frankly grinding out ugly squats is pretty impressive to me. that's some actual real strength vs technique strength. You're a pretty damn big dude (bigger than you look in vids here) and you pull an assload. No reason you can't squat 500 in the next year or so. Just need to shore up some stuff.

I was only there for 20-30 mins but man that meet seemed like a massive cluster****. Lol @ making lifters follow the board instead of calling who's on deck/in the hole/4 out.
Agree with all that.

Also, how is that headache? Is your neck stiff? I'd be willing to bet the headache came from your last two squat attempts. Use the obliques and the squat GMing will magically go away. THORACIC MOBILITY - that's likely part of the headache problem as well. Or maybe its a tumor (jk). In addition to the stuff we talked about, start stretching and rolling your mid-upper back regularly - you need that.
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07-16-2013 , 12:02 PM
My headache went away yesterday. Neck was a little stiff yesterday but its fine now. I am definitely going to work on thoracic mobility from now on
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07-16-2013 , 10:39 PM
Week 1 day 2

Deadlift w/ belt x5 @9

415x5 @8
465x5 @9

Pin press (mid range)x3 @9
275x3 @7.5
305x3 @9.5

Front squat x4 @9
185x4 @7.5
205x4 @8
225x4 @9
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07-17-2013 , 02:38 AM
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My headache went away yesterday. Neck was a little stiff yesterday but its fine now. I am definitely going to work on thoracic mobility from now on


Back at it already, eh? I'm still trying to decide whether or not to lift tomorrow.
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