If I ever decide to make an H&F log, loco and Mihkel05 will be banned at the outset. Holy **** those guys are insufferable.

Alobar,

Why do you write out your food instead of pasting your actual log?

We're questioning why he's not doing that horrific screenshot method?

Neil,

I am not suggesting he take a photograph of his monitor.

Thremp,
It sure would help at some point. However, when someone is a binge-eating lardass with an unhealthy relationship to food and self-describes as being addicted to it, you do not just change a couple of lines of their robot AI code and all of the sudden they eat like adults. Human people make some changes, then they make some more, then they stop making them for a while and hopefully don't slide back too much, and then maybe they make some more. This is how humans work. Alobar has made some changes compared to how he has lived his life up until now. This may even lead to him learning to eat like an adult at some point.

So maybe he's still binging eating compared to someone who's never binge eaten. He's been able to restrain himself to the extent that (I think) he only has two days in which he's gone over his caloric goals. Even if you contest his calculations, he has been able to restrain himself. This is what human people call progress, though I admit it would be a terrible coding error in you or loco or Sklansky.
This is great coming from you.

greg,

Plainly, do you think that his current food selection offers him any possibility of long term dietary success?

He clearly will never succeed, because no one could ****ing succeed if they ate super caloric dense foods that are hyper palatable for literally every single meal. But I'm glad you think he's "progressing", since you seem like you totally know what you're talking about.

Go vegetables. I did.

DDP is excellent, no excuse for ever drinking regular

If he does not change his diet at some point he will not have long term dietary success. I do not think it is yet time to despair that he has only made one major change to his diet since he began his log. It has only been two weeks.

John,

Spoken like a true fatty

I am entertained by the fact that the H&F community is simultaneously thought of as a bunch of pillowsoft enablers wrt MLYLT because we try to mix in some encouragement in between making light of her continued inability to plan and execute (though she has improved) and also as a bunch of militant *******s because we're suggesting that a fat guy (even though he's only 14% BF!) maybe go ahead and eat something satiating and cooked at home rather than throwing an enchilada on top of some leftover Domino's and funneling down a liter of Dr. Pepper.

I'd also echo whoever recently questioned the veracity of whatever logging technique he's actually using; I'd bet a fair bit of money that he's not carefully weighing his peanut butter, for example.

Loco,

I think you are basically nice and really want to be helpful but you never really had food issues yourself. Don't you think that Alobar knows that a steak with veggies would be better than a pizza?

Just stating that a poster eats wrong food, and on top stating it in such high nosed form, like you have figured it all out ( You didn't. You just never had certain issues. ) is not helpful.

Food issues are complicated. One component in dealing with them is clearly to avoid malnutrition by investing calories in better stuff than Dr. Pepper. But there is a LOT more. And on the serious note, I wonder how comes that no one in HF ever tried to dig that one deeper.

My question on Dr. Pepper is directed specifically at Alobar. I want to know how it tastes for him? What makes Dr. Pepper so special for him?

Here is something I often do:
http://immigrantstable.com/2013/12/2...ranberry-mors/

I do it completely without additional sugar/honey/syrup. You can add some and will still be a lot better than any sodas. You can vary fruits.

Cause no one cares?

Mental health issues, which is what you're saying the concern is, should be addressed elsewhere, or preferably with a doctor.

"We" dole out H&F advice, presumably with the expectation that it will be accepted and applied. (hint: sometimes it is, with success. sometimes it isn't)

Completely reasonable answer.
And again a reminder for me, why HF is not a good place for me.

Cause no one cares.

I care, but on the other hand I'm new here.

Loco did have issues with food, no?

He is a former fat, yes

The thing is, that many who come here new have exactly that problem. And it is often not bad enough to go to a doc, but it is an issue. Many come here exactly to find help in dealing with food issues. After one or two encounters with M05 people disappear. I think it is not good, because I care too.

I think I remember picture he posted, where he thinks that he was fat. At least in this picture he was completely normal.

That picture of him prbly looks similar to Alobar.

I like facts to be presented. How to live up to them is only the next issue. Bring them on, the hard facts.

I once took away 10 lbs in a month, wasn't sustainable. Now I'm taking away 20, of which 15 is left, intend to make it permanent. Hope I can provide insights. And why not getting?

lapka,

Everyone knows that comment is ridiculous.

Sadly I've actually been asked off 2p2 by people who participate here why I actually spend time debunking obvious diet myths and typing out long diatribes on potential ways to eat better to people who obviously don't give a **** about their own health. The answer is plain. I deeply hate fat people and am doing everything in my power to rid the world of them. (Peacefully like Richard Spencer, not like those alt-left "punch a Nazi" freaks.) So I probably care more than anyone here due to my deep and utter disgust at fatbodies.

That isn't right.

Reads as pretty authoritarian to this guy.