Diet Dr Pepper is like eating ass. It's closely related to the real thing, and there are people into it, but it's literally putting **** on your tongue.

I weigh once a week on Monday morning, not looking to disrupt that routine. Ill be ~242 this monday. No worries if they doesn't work out for you, gl. Logging here is great

4/28

weight: 206.2

BF%: 14.2

Food: Oatmeal with some peanut butter, Ham sandwich and tortilla chips, Pasta with sausage, lots of Dr. Pepper

exercise: went for a 40 minute hike

daily calories: -200

total calories: -4201


So I really wanted to take today off from exercise since Im sore from my PT, but I drank enough Dr Pepper that if I wanted to have dinner and still come in the negative on calories I had to go out and do something (On the plus side, I found 21 golf balls on my hike). So tomorrow after I finish whats left in the 2 liter bottle, I am ending my relationship with the good doctor

Diet Soda tastes gross, and really the only soda I like is Dr Pepper. So there's no point in drinking anything other than water. I'm actually pretty fortunate in that I very much enjoy water, and my Dr P habit is typically a Fri-Sun affair, so its not like quitting smoking or something.

Just a side note that generally speaking with weight loss it's not a good idea to incorporate bonus calories for exercising. Good job on deciding to dump the Dr Pepper though. I'm totally with you in regards to diet soda, I'd definitely just go without rather than drink it.

what do you mean?

Was I reading it correctly that you could only have dinner if you went and did extra exercise? Just from what I've read on this forum that's generally accepted as not being a good strategy for weight loss. That any extra calories you burn from exercise shouldn't be taken into account with your calorie intake. I hope I've explained it ok.

Yup. You should generally pick a steady calorie target and aim to hit that. Walking an extra mile on the day doesnt mean you should think "Now I can eat 100 more calories". Basically it leaves you to just estimating your intake, rather than your intake AND output. More estimations leads to more errors...etc etc

Rexx,

For sedentary fatasses who are going to play some fat person tennis or something, that’s the correct policy.

For someone like Alobar who’s likely to do some real exercise, it’s fine to incorporate those exercise calories into the plan.

I'm just going with what I have read on here. I wouldn't have thought a 40 minute hike would have burned a huge amount of calories. Obviously doing it is still a positive.

Rexx,

It’s generally a bad idea because fatasses are prone to underestimate logging and overestimate exercise calories, so using the exercise instead as a buffer and potential bonus helps keep things on track.

But Alobar is someone who has done tons of significant endurance exercise, so he’s far more likely to burn actually significant calories in his exercise than the general weight loss logger here.

You’re right that the 40 min hike is not likely to be a big burn, but even in that I could see Alobar potentially expending 50-100% more calories than the average overweight logger.

yeah, I leave out stuff already. I walk close to 4 miles on the days I have classes that I don't log. I don't log my PT or any gym work stuff. I figure its just insurance if my food is underestimated and im sure my garmin overestimates calories burned working out. Not so much now cuz my back isnt 100% and I'm not running at all, but before I got hurt most days I would be burning at least 1K calories working out, somedays it would be as high as 3K. Feel like I definitely have to take that into account.

Do agree tho its def not a good thing to be like "well if I want to be able to eat, need to go do X", so hopefully I stop putting myself in that situation so that it doesn't really matter anyway.

My 40 minute hike as an example, my garmin says I burned 432 calories. I typically assume thats higher than it should be (which is why I don't count other stuff), but my average heart rate was 143 and my max was 181 and I did about 500ft of elevation. So its not like a leisurely stroll or anything.

Ok no worries

This is a valid point, but in the context of someone who believes they have food binging issues, there is a bit of mental reprogramming that needs to take place. Justifying more food in any way mentally is just compounding the issue, not approaching a change.

yes, very good point and very true.

Agreed. It's still looking at food as a (primary) source of pleasure. I think it's best to look at food as a necessity, and then still make the best of it what you can.

You're still early in breaking habits too.

4/29

weight: 207.1

BF%: 13.0

Food: Oatmeal with some peanut butter, half a cheese sandwich, two bananas, the last of my Dr Pepper (goodnight sweet prince), a side salad, a grilled veggie wrap, blueberry stout.

exercise: twenty minutes of vigorous masturbation

daily calories: -495

total calories: -4695


Guess I should feel pretty proud, I made it through a weekend without imploding and even managed to increase my deficit.

Good job on getting through the weekend ok. Just out of curiosity how many calories do you think the vigorous masturbation burned? Asking for a friend.

Depends what level of handicap he used.

4/30

weight: 207.3

BF%: 12.8

Food: Oatmeal with some peanut butter, half a cheese sandwich, a banana, fajita pasta, and then more oatmeal with peanut butter

exercise: 90 minutes cycling

daily calories: -1023

total calories: -5718

enough for a delicious piece of milk chocolate!

Noted

Alobar,

Maybe I'm not understanding this but you, in the first post, specify an unhealthy relationship with food using it as a reward, but proceed to keep doing the same self-identified unhealthy behavior?

Also El D is wrong thinking you're somehow different than other fat people. You just exercise a bunch (or did), and its really the only thing holding back rapid weight gain which you literally just experienced.

Anyway, hope this helps. Best of luck!

5/1

weight: 206.1

BF%: 13.1

Food: Oatmeal with some peanut butter, clif bar, rice with chicken sausage

exercise: 30 minutes hike

daily calories: -1229

total calories: -6947

actually jogged a bit, and I didnt feel anything in my back. Was pretty excited.

well if it was as easy as just not doing it anymore, I obviously wouldn't be here I think on the whole I'm actually doing pretty good tho. This is the most number of days in a row ive gone without having some 4,000 calorie day this year, I also havent had any candy or chocolate, which again I doubt ive gone a stretch this long this year.

I mean obviously I still got a lot of work to do, but I feel like its been a good start.