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05-31-2019 , 10:23 AM
I, personally, am shocked that after all this time you have yet to adopt, or really even try, any therapeutic coping mechanisms for dealing with altered mood, which is not only a significant issue with bipolar disorder, but also a known side effect of smoking cessation.
05-31-2019 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I, personally, am shocked that after all this time you have yet to adopt, or really even try, any therapeutic coping mechanisms for dealing with altered mood, which is not only a significant issue with bipolar disorder, but also a known side effect of smoking cessation.


Are you a mental health professional?
05-31-2019 , 10:34 AM
dead,

She is (sup RJ!)

It's not really necessary for you to police this thread, by the way; MLY is free to ban anyone she wants from posting here, and I try to steer anyone away who's getting too toxic. With that said, ultimately the primary purpose of this thread is attention, so neither of those things is really all that necessary.
05-31-2019 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
dead,

She is (sup RJ!)

It's not really necessary for you to police this thread, by the way; MLY is free to ban anyone she wants from posting here, and I try to steer anyone away who's getting too toxic. With that said, ultimately the primary purpose of this thread is attention, so neither of those things is really all that necessary.


I was asking because I have a legitimate question I wanted to ask privately if the answer was yes.
05-31-2019 , 10:39 AM
Monte,
If attention gets me to go to the gym and lift weights+exercise and to try to stop smoking, why does anyone care or it rustle ppl so much.
I'm lonely, better to post here and get motivated to do something rather than sit at home alone and stare at the walls.
05-31-2019 , 10:46 AM
MLY,

No one's really interested in helping someone that routinely ignores their advice; while this is your log to do with as you please (within reason, obviously, as Aidan previously illustrated), expecting enthusiastic support on the twentieth time around the same merry-go-round isn't really realistic, especially when the OP demonstrates the astonishing amount of self involvement and lack of empathy that your previous post showed. (This applies not only to your log, by the way.)

It's not like the recipe for improvement has changed; regularly seeing a mental health professional and following their plan for getting your mental health under control, getting control over your diet plan, accurately logging food, and making and sticking to a life schedule would help you immeasurably. That there has been little to no progress towards any of these milestones means there's little constructive left for anyone to say.
05-31-2019 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Monte,
If attention gets me to go to the gym and lift weights+exercise and to try to stop smoking, why does anyone care or it rustle ppl so much.
I'm lonely, better to post here and get motivated to do something rather than sit at home alone and stare at the walls.


Wow
05-31-2019 , 11:17 AM
So your working hypothesis is that sexual intercouse will lead towards reduced smoking? I am pretty sure That isn’t how it works in the movies, but I have little firsthand experience to go off of (read into that what you will), so who knows. .

Let us know how the results go.
05-31-2019 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Are you a mental health professional?
Hi Monte!

I do not work in the field at this time (I’m a poker dealer), but I have a PhD in Counseling and have worked with clients in the past.

So strictly speaking the answer is no, but on psych issues I’m more knowledgeable than the average poster.
05-31-2019 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
MLY,

No one's really interested in helping someone that routinely ignores their advice; while this is your log to do with as you please (within reason, obviously, as Aidan previously illustrated), expecting enthusiastic support on the twentieth time around the same merry-go-round isn't really realistic, especially when the OP demonstrates the astonishing amount of self involvement and lack of empathy that your previous post showed. (This applies not only to your log, by the way.)

It's not like the recipe for improvement has changed; regularly seeing a mental health professional and following their plan for getting your mental health under control, getting control over your diet plan, accurately logging food, and making and sticking to a life schedule would help you immeasurably. That there has been little to no progress towards any of these milestones means there's little constructive left for anyone to say.
To be fair, I am not sure that is the primary motivation for most of the activity in this log. If it was it probably wouldn’t be the most popular log here by a very wide margin.
05-31-2019 , 11:24 AM
Once upon a time it would have been the motivation. There are a ton of smart, knowledgeable people in this forum who could give reams of useful, specific advice.

Man, now I’m nostalgic for the YTF log.
05-31-2019 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus999
To be fair, I am not sure that is the primary motivation for most of the activity in this log. If it was it probably wouldn’t be the most popular log here by a very wide margin.
Well, sure it's not their motivation now, but most people start out wanting to help, which I think was Monte's point. After a while, you realize that the well-intentioned advice is not going to help and then you just sit back and watch the hilarious train wreck/magic show unfold.

Last edited by Melkerson; 05-31-2019 at 11:28 AM. Reason: my pony needs more motivation
05-31-2019 , 11:33 AM
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05-31-2019 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Monte,
If attention gets me to go to the gym and lift weights+exercise and to try to stop smoking, why does anyone care or it rustle ppl so much.
I'm lonely, better to post here and get motivated to do something rather than sit at home alone and stare at the walls.
How many times have you been to the gym since this log started? Once? Twice?

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Originally Posted by Montecore
MLY,

No one's really interested in helping someone that routinely ignores their advice; while this is your log to do with as you please (within reason, obviously, as Aidan previously illustrated), expecting enthusiastic support on the twentieth time around the same merry-go-round isn't really realistic, especially when the OP demonstrates the astonishing amount of self involvement and lack of empathy that your previous post showed. (This applies not only to your log, by the way.)

It's not like the recipe for improvement has changed; regularly seeing a mental health professional and following their plan for getting your mental health under control, getting control over your diet plan, accurately logging food, and making and sticking to a life schedule would help you immeasurably. That there has been little to no progress towards any of these milestones means there's little constructive left for anyone to say.
Keep up this kinda talk and M is gonna overhead press you next after jmakin


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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Well, sure it's not their motivation now, but most people start out wanting to help, which I think was Monte's point. After a while, you realize that the well-intentioned advice is not going to help and then you just sit back and watch the hilarious train wreck/magic show unfold.
Pretty much this. I’ve told her numerous times to plan meals, eat eggs for breakfast, and she just ignores and gets fast food every morning. I stick around for the hilarious claims of overhead pressing other posters.
05-31-2019 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
MLY,

especially when the OP demonstrates the astonishing amount of self involvement and lack of empathy that your previous post showed. (This applies not only to your log, by the way.)
I don't understand what you are saying at all. Can you explain what you mean.
A personal log is for the person, not other people so shouldn't it be self involved? I don't get it.

I'm bipolar, I'm not just going to be normal all the time, in the right state of mind, rational. I just don't understand how or why it bothers anyone when I'm not, especially when it's in the confines of my log. Or if people get mad if I didn't follow some advice one day, maybe I couldn't even get myself into the shower that day or I'm not sleeping and can't stop obsessing over something else.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 05-31-2019 at 11:54 AM.
05-31-2019 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus999
So your working hypothesis is that sexual intercouse will lead towards reduced smoking? I am pretty sure That isn’t how it works in the movies, but I have little firsthand experience to go off of (read into that what you will), so who knows. .

Let us know how the results go.
I think it will help with the withdrawals.
Nicotine increases dopamine. I'm going to replace the nicotine supplied dopamine with the sex supplied dopamine. Kinda replacing one drug for another until I can get used to lower dopamine levels.

I'm doing some reading and it seems nicotine also increases adrenaline that results in excess glucose dumps into the blood stream. Since my blood sugar is already really low, without a constant supply of nicotine/adrenaline it will probably be lower. I'm also going to drink orange juice all weekend and keep candy in my mouth.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 05-31-2019 at 12:07 PM.
05-31-2019 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I think it will help with the withdrawals.
Nicotine increases dopamine. I'm going to replace the nicotine supplied dopamine with the sex supplied dopamine. Kinda replacing one drug for another until I can get used to lower dopamine levels.


Today is your lucky day!

You know what else increases dopamine........exercise!
05-31-2019 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Monte,
If attention gets me to go to the gym and lift weights+exercise and to try to stop smoking, why does anyone care or it rustle ppl so much.
I'm lonely, better to post here and get motivated to do something rather than sit at home alone and stare at the walls.
Why don't you just go to a bar and try to **** strangers like a normal person?

Regards,
aiott (22,500 internet posts)
05-31-2019 , 01:36 PM
I might have to do that.
Code3 isn't on board with the sex marathon and just shuts down if I say anything about quitting smoking. Maybe separating himself in case I fail so it won't affect him....I don't ****ing know. I know I don't have a dang support system.
05-31-2019 , 01:44 PM
With a name like MLYLT I would assume that sexual partners would assume sex marathons would be standard practice.
05-31-2019 , 01:44 PM
You guys should get it on with some weighted vests and ankle weights and whatnot
05-31-2019 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I might have to do that.
Code3 isn't on board with the sex marathon and just shuts down if I say anything about quitting smoking. Maybe separating himself in case I fail so it won't affect him....I don't ****ing know. I know I don't have a dang support system.
Who would you say is most responsible for developing and maintaining an adequate support system?
05-31-2019 , 02:18 PM
deadfish, your weird attempts to hit on MLY could use a little more veiling.
05-31-2019 , 02:19 PM
Shocked, shocked I am that your devoted partner code isn't by your side throughout this whole ordeal.
05-31-2019 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I don't understand what you are saying at all. Can you explain what you mean.
A personal log is for the person, not other people so shouldn't it be self involved? I don't get it.

I'm bipolar, I'm not just going to be normal all the time, in the right state of mind, rational. I just don't understand how or why it bothers anyone when I'm not, especially when it's in the confines of my log. Or if people get mad if I didn't follow some advice one day, maybe I couldn't even get myself into the shower that day or I'm not sleeping and can't stop obsessing over something else.
MLY,

When you flat out state that you're using other people for "motivation", and that the only things that "motivate" you are extrinsic, how do you think it makes other people feel when they put in time and effort to make well thought out and helpful posts which are then consistently ignored? Obviously your log can and should be about you, but part of basic human interaction is reciprocity. Someone coming into my log and giving me an attaboy or a tip or asking a question snaps me out of my own selfish fog and reminds me that part of being in a community (a healthy one, anyway) is reading other logs, offering feedback when you have the expertise to do so and encouragement when you don't.

With respect to this log specifically, no one (or few people) are mad with short term blips in motivation or performance -- that happens to all of us (see: the second piece of ice cream cake I had last night at my nephew's graduation that was twice as big as the first one). People are mad that you continually refuse to take steps to ameliorate your issues, beginning first and foremost with consistent mental health treatment and continuing with general life and nutrition planning. Some of Jocko Willink's stuff is a bit reductive, but one saying of his that I do agree with is "discipline is freedom". It is completely not intuitive how much better I feel with a few days of meals in the freezer, the next few workouts programmed into my app, my work travel planned, and my work tasks for the week mapped out. I am noticeably more anxious (to my wife and kids) when my own laziness means I haven't met one of these goals, and being a worse husband and/or father because of my own sloth is something I'm less willing to forgive myself for these days.

No one is arguing that due to your issues, many of which were/are out of your control, that your activation energy may be higher; I would argue this means the impetus to take control over your life is higher for you, not lower, due to these obstacles. That you have things you have to overcome sucks, but ultimately no one is going to care about them but you, and you have to figure out a way to cope. When we're having this conversation for quite literally the thousandth time over the history of this thread, it's shouldn't be a mystery why people either disengage or joke.

      
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