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09-04-2013 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mcb33f
do you know why? my friend has it (145/105) and they don't know why yet, curious what kinds of things could cause it. he's in good shape, lifts, prob ~13bf% or so
genetics probably.

I'm 26 and I've been on meds for a year or 2 now. decided to go off them for a week when I ran out recently. I'm at around 140/72 without meds and 125/70 with meds.

biggest things you can do are keep BW and BF low. 13% bf is pretty effing solid, but if he's roid freak 5'10 210lb 13% he could improve his BP by losing weight.

two other things that I should be doing but am not: get in good cardio shape and keep sodium low. ain't nobody got time fo dat. but seriously I plan on upping the cardio once I finish cutting to 170-175.


edit: make sure he does something about it though. preferably lifestyle changes and then meds if needed. hypertension basically means your heart is training like an NFL player instead of a little cardio bunny.

edit2: so even though he's not gonna have a heart attack at 25yo 145/105, his heart and arteries are still being damaged ever so mildly.

edit3: so jimmy-rustling having fat friends who don't exercise like "just got back from the doctor; I'm in perfect health durhurr"

Last edited by nuggetz87; 09-04-2013 at 11:00 AM.
09-04-2013 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kazuya
the foods I had questions about were these:

It kinda matter cause I'm eating about 21 burgers of these a week so want to make sure I'm tracking it right.

turkey burger C/P/F/CAL
0/34/3/186


and these oats.. I'm planning on eating about 3 cups/week so once again this label is throwing me off

old fashion rolled oats [raw/dry] C/P/F/CAL
33(5g fiber)/0/3.5/200

consensus would be just track it as is? depends on how I record these is the difference between 596 calories/week
I'm going to guess trans fat added to the turkey burgers and sugar of some type to the oats. Always heard a little pork or pork fat jazzed up turkey burger meat, perhaps the same is true of hydrogenated vegetable oil.
09-04-2013 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue
My parents gave me a whole bunch of home grown veggies that are ready to make some elite salsa. I am missing some ingredients (cilantro, onion, lime, etc) but I have a solid foundation. The gf was like, 'here is a recipe for some salsa that I would really like, take a look!'

Ok, cool. I can follow a recipe and get all the ratios right. Let's look...

'1 can diced tomatoes
3/4 can jalapeños...'

Rage quit
Sorry bout the GFs taste, but thats pretty standard. you can take the girl out of lake shasta city, but you can never take lake shasta city out of the girl.
09-04-2013 , 11:44 AM
But you can make a small lake on her lower back.
09-04-2013 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffawesome
In Illinois and Indiana there are no helmet laws for motorcyclists. It's like natural selection right out in the open.
Wow, Illinois being associated with Indiana and DT hasn't freaked out on you yet. Surprising.
09-04-2013 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
Wow, Illinois being associated with Indiana and DT hasn't freaked out on you yet. Surprising.
He's still licking his wounds from his horrendous fantasy draft yesterday, give him some time to recover.
09-04-2013 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by aura
I just found some unopened almond milk. It says "Best before 18 June 2013" on the box. I'm figuring that means there's a chance it's still good.

To check it: is almond milk like cow milk in that it'll smell spoiled when I open it? I'm guessing it'll be a similar smell but far less offensive. Does it look any different when spoiled? Prob gonna check tonight.
Why would you try to salvage something like that so far past the expiration date?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue
My parents gave me a whole bunch of home grown veggies that are ready to make some elite salsa. I am missing some ingredients (cilantro, onion, lime, etc) but I have a solid foundation. The gf was like, 'here is a recipe for some salsa that I would really like, take a look!'

Ok, cool. I can follow a recipe and get all the ratios right. Let's look...

'1 can diced tomatoes
3/4 can jalapeños...'

Rage quit
Meh, not sure about the canned jalapenos, but there are some really good canned tomatoes. If you can get fresh, in season tomatoes, then yea use those, but there isnt anything inherently wrong with canned tomatoes. Fresh will typically be better than canned, but there are plenty of canned items that are better than their average fresh counterpart.
09-04-2013 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Picasso
Why would you try to salvage something like that so far past the expiration date?



Meh, not sure about the canned jalapenos, but there are some really good canned tomatoes. If you can get fresh, in season tomatoes, then yea use those, but there isnt anything inherently wrong with canned tomatoes. Fresh will typically be better than canned, but there are plenty of canned items that are better than their average fresh counterpart.
Such as?
09-04-2013 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
Such as?
09-04-2013 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
That might be one of my favorite comedies of all time.
09-04-2013 , 01:43 PM
canned fish is far superior to fresh fish
09-04-2013 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PayoffWiz
That might be one of my favorite comedies of all time.
AMAZING! That is the same combination on my luggage!

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Originally Posted by Aidan
canned fish is far superior to fresh fish
Maybe in flyover country. Better than frozen for any length of time. But not better than fresh i.e. caught it yourself that morning.
09-04-2013 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
canned fish is far superior to fresh fish
Not buying that. The fish I catch here seems to be better than canned, IMO.
09-04-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
Not buying that. The fish I catch here seems to be better than canned, IMO.
Well that's just like your opinion man.

Yesterday at work we had grilled wahoo tacos/sammiches for lunch. Today is grilled mahi mahi. Freee mahi mahi!
09-04-2013 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
Not buying that. The fish I catch here seems to be better than canned, IMO.
Best fish I ever had was in Anchorage at a restaurant called The Bridge. GOAT Halibut.
09-04-2013 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
Not buying that. The fish I catch here seems to be better than canned, IMO.
Thinking about it, canned humpies might be better than fresh. Herring, sardines and anchovies too. Basically any bony, bait or trash fish is probably better pressure canned.
09-04-2013 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
Such as?
This is the extreme example: http://www.travelchannel.com/video/t...-seafood-11742

But the point holds true in the sense that many seafood items taste better aged, and canning is one of the best ways to preserve them and allow them to age. For seafood though, this is usually only true at the high end [and no, before you point it out, this doesnt apply to forms of consuming fish; e.g. i would take the fresh sushi over canned].

For more typical items, my statement may have been reaching a bit but it all depends on what you have available to you locally and it also depends on what you are trying to make. But out of season, I would go for canned tomatoes any day over "fresh." My main point is that the disdain for anything that comes in a can is short sighted, especially when it comes to tomatoes which have plenty of high quality canned varieties. For many typical items, the "LOL, its canned!" mentality is just misguided snobbery.

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Originally Posted by crashjr
Thinking about it, canned humpies might be better than fresh. Herring, sardines and anchovies too. Basically any bony, bait or trash fish is probably better pressure canned.
Yea, anchovies were what I was originally thinking about. It is the same as anything though, quality matters. My main point is that today there are a wide variety of high quality canned items which pretty good distribution, and the same isnt close to true for fresh seafood.

Last edited by Picasso; 09-04-2013 at 02:37 PM.
09-04-2013 , 02:38 PM
Depending on how much our alaskan and scandi bros can, its likely that I can more fish than all of H&F combined. No snobbery here, but i've always liked fresh better because it is better. I haven't tried much in the way of shellfish yet, i'll can razors, mussels and dungeness crab this winter and report back.

With a world market, we can get fresh tomatoes year round, peaches in February, etc. There isn't much need for canned vegetables or fruit anymore.

Last edited by crashjr; 09-04-2013 at 02:39 PM. Reason: Unless you are a homesteading/survivalist/prepper type obv.
09-04-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazuya
the foods I had questions about were these:

It kinda matter cause I'm eating about 21 burgers of these a week so want to make sure I'm tracking it right.

turkey burger C/P/F/CAL
0/34/3/186


and these oats.. I'm planning on eating about 3 cups/week so once again this label is throwing me off

old fashion rolled oats [raw/dry] C/P/F/CAL
33(5g fiber)/0/3.5/200

consensus would be just track it as is? depends on how I record these is the difference between 596 calories/week
That's weird dude. I've never seen calories that off before. Are you sure you're not missing protein on the oats? My old fashioned rolled oats have more protein than fat.

Regardless though, still use the label for calories. It's going to be the best estimate you have of calories. Simple as that. Also, precision matters a lot too (if not the most), so just be consistent.
09-04-2013 , 02:43 PM
I'm having some salmon tonight for dinner. Not fresh as I caught it in July and froze it. Really looking forward to it. I have a bunch of salmon, halibut and rockfish from that trip. Not sure how much longer it will last with the way my kids and I eat it (wife hates fish).
09-04-2013 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
Thinking about it, canned humpies might be better than fresh. Herring, sardines and anchovies too. Basically any bony, bait or trash fish is probably better pressure canned.
I don't can fish, but I think taking fresh pinks and smoking them is better than store bought canned. Smoked salmon is awesome, but I wouldn't smoke silvers. I think they are better used for baking/grilling than smoking.
09-04-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by skeletor121
I'm having some salmon tonight for dinner. Not fresh as I caught it in July and froze it. Really looking forward to it. I have a bunch of salmon, halibut and rockfish from that trip. Not sure how much longer it will last with the way my kids and I eat it (wife hates fish).
Alaskan combo trips are so awesome. Confirmed jelly.

I went fishing with big poppa yesterday. Got on some fish and more than a few kelp flies.
09-04-2013 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
Thinking about it, canned humpies might be better than fresh. Herring, sardines and anchovies too. Basically any bony, bait or trash fish is probably better pressure canned.
Fresh-ish sardines are better than canned sardines.
09-04-2013 , 02:53 PM
The need for canned tomatoes: ain't nobody got time for dicing tomatoes.
09-04-2013 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
The need for canned tomatoes: ain't nobody got time for dicing tomatoes.
Yeah. At $1 or whatever I'm in.

      
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