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09-26-2010 , 08:27 AM
Hey you should test your VJ im am curious since you are lighter, have less BF, but haven't done a lot of PC work.
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09-26-2010 , 08:34 AM
VJ?
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09-26-2010 , 08:53 AM
vertical jump
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09-26-2010 , 09:00 AM
Oh right. Is there a Correct Method[tm] for testing VJ?
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09-26-2010 , 12:57 PM
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Also measuring by the navel is hard, can't get a grip on the fat layer.
Thinly veiled brag.
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09-26-2010 , 04:38 PM
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Thinly veiled brag.
Heh wasn't really intended as such, always been this way.


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No WAY I'm buying one of those things just to test my VJ
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09-26-2010 , 06:39 PM
i think your vertical jump is 22".
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09-27-2010 , 03:08 AM
mkay?

I've never had a particularly good jump, so not expecting a lot.
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09-27-2010 , 03:25 AM
Miles is probably correct. I was just wondering if it might be unexpectedly higher due to your lower bf% and lower BW.

At my work there is a beam that comes down from the ceiling that is the lowest part and it is pretty much exactly 24" above my finger tips out-stretched all the way and I finally jumped and touched it, clearing it by about 1".

That how I measured mine.
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09-28-2010 , 02:28 PM
2010-09-28


Back on the cho-cho train, feels good.


Squat
3x5x97.5 kg (215 lbs)

Form is better, but some reps are still shady. Strict focus on form will continue but will increase in weights.


Bench Press
3x5x72.5 kg (160 lbs)

Reset by 5 kg. Was struggling at +5, so why the hell not. We'll see if the surplus is enough to drive gains here for a while.


Deadlift
3x5x110 kg (242 lbs)

Videoed warm-ups + work set. I need to set up a bit closer than I have been, not quite Rip-style but close. In addition I've apparently thought it's a good idea to set the bar down SLDL-style with straight knees, good move bro.


Side planks
2 x each side

First time, these were pretty hard. Just like the normal plank it's a question of willpower to some degree.


Feeling good, now to nomz a triple xxl burger king.
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09-28-2010 , 03:38 PM
Do you treat the weighted sit-ups and planks as assistance to you your other lifts or as assistance to your pursuit of hot women?
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09-28-2010 , 03:45 PM
50/50
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10-02-2010 , 10:25 AM
2010-09-27
1,5 hours LFD (ditch digging)


2010-09-29
1 hour HIIT ditch digging (lots of nasty roots included)
45 mins "hill sprints" (carrying wood down a steep hill)


Woke up on Thursday and I was all like 'lol no wai I'm training today' and stuff. So I skipped it, since I would have squatted the bar at best.


2010-10-02


Press
3x5x55 kg

Ez.


Squat
3x5x100 kg (220 lbs)

Ez. Form getting better. It's fun how eating at a surplus for a week helps a lot, these felt pretty light.


Kroc Rows
Warm-ups then
1x 22/23 reps x 22 kg (48.5 lbs)


Back Extensions
2x10x20 kg


Good workout. Now to eat a lot of meat + additional nomz like mushroom stew and good wine.


ETA: my wrist still isn't better, which is irritating and hindering me from doing PCs. Lame. Think I'll just buy some wrist wraps and try them anyway.

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10-05-2010 , 12:53 PM
2010-10-05


Squat
1x5x102.5 kg
1x3x102.5 kg
1x5x102.5 kg

Dunno what happened middle set really. Everything was wrong. Form is still meh-ish, I dunno wtf is wrong with me


Bench Press
3x5x70 kg (154 lbs, +2.5 kg/+5.5 lbs)

Noticed I typed up last BP session wrong, should've been 67.5 kg. Pretty sure I'm gonna need Tate's 6-week cure to get my BP up beyond previous PRs.


Deadlift
1x5x115 kg (253 lbs, +5 kg/+11 lbs)

Felt good, apart from the shoulder feeling every so slighty iffy afterwords. Gonna switch to straps.


I also discovered I'm the stupidest person to ever wear a weightlifting belt. For some reason I've just never pushed out against the belt, always tightened my core in order to extend my back rigidly. This great epiphany struck me between sets on the bench for some reason. For funsies I did an air squat while pushing against the belt and almost passed out, lol. Feel free to mock me extensively.
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10-05-2010 , 01:26 PM
mock mock mock. This does make more sense as to why you thought you needed the belt as tight as possible.
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10-05-2010 , 01:32 PM
Yeah. I'm pretty embarrassed.
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10-05-2010 , 02:15 PM
no

http://startingstrength.com/resource...t=18834&page=3

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I just thought you were supposed to push your stomach against the belt. The other day I really focused on contracting my abs properly on the deadlift and pulled a PR and my back felt great the next day.
That is a common misconception about the use of a belt. Really, what you do is put the balt on tight and then just forget it's there and use your abs like you would without it. The belt works without you having to actually "use" it.
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10-05-2010 , 02:17 PM
I thought rip was being sarcastic there. :\
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10-05-2010 , 02:28 PM
Yeah just read that. I have been using the Gary Gibson advice linked in that thread. But as some of the posters say, maybe they are the same action with 2 different descriptions.

I also read this a long time ago:

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Now that your upper back is tight you'll need to tighten your midsection. First, expand your abdomen as much as possible. When you pull air into your body it should be into the diaphragm, not the chest. Expand you belly and push it out against your belt. This will stabilize and support the lower back and not elongate the spine. If you're having a hard time trying to figure this out, then wear your weight belt one notch loose and push into it with your belly so it becomes tight.

Pushing your belly out goes against what many believe because they feel training this way will cause injuries to the lower back. After 30 years of box squatting Westside has had 23 lifters squat over 800 pounds, six over 900 pounds and one over a grand. Not one of these lifters or any of the others has had lower back problems.

Another aspect of this to keep in mind is the circumference of the waist line. If I suck my belly in my waist line measures 42 inches. If I pull air into my belly and push it out it measures 48 inches. The wider base the stronger the lifter. This is why lifters with a bigger waist squat more. The pyramids in Egypt are also built with a wide base and they have been standing for centuries. As the car commercials used to say, wider is better.

I learned this lesson firsthand at the 1990 Toledo Hall of Fame powerlifting competition. I'd just tried a 760 squat and got smashed with it. This was my second attempt of the day and I decided to give it another try on the third. I had some doubts because the second attempt wasn't even close. Saying I got smashed is an understatement. The weight stapled me to the floor! I didn't even get out of the bottom of the lift. This weight was a 20 pound personal record for which I had spent the last four months training.

I didn't understand what the problem was or how to fix it. On the third attempt, while I was getting wrapped, Louie Simmons walked up to me and told me to get my abdominals tight. I had no idea what he was talking about at the time, but would within the next few minutes. As I got under the weight I realized Louie was the spotter behind me. (No pressure there, huh?) As I got set under the bar he told me to expand and push my belly into the belt. Now I understood what he was talking about. I was always told to flex my abs, but never to expand and push out.

As I set the bar up, I noticed that I had never felt so tight and stable. Once set, I locked in my back and began the squat. I kept my belly pushed into the belt and blasted the weight up! I had just smoked a weight that stapled me to the floor moments earlier all because I learned how to use my abdominals! In my opinion, this concept is one of the most misunderstood in the sport of powerlifting today. Many lifters don't know how to use their core to set up a squat. Some do nothing at all while others are trying to suck their stomachs in. This is probably fine for those who strive to squat 400 pounds, but if you're looking to squat maximal weights in the 700 to 900 range, you'd better learn how to use your core.

All the power of the lower body is transferred through your core to the barbell. If this core isn't tight the power will "get lost" so to speak and never travel to the bar. While I don't agree with the use of a belt for the majority of training, I do believe in the use of belts to teach a person how to use the abdominals while squatting. The belt is a training aid in competition, so you must learn how to use it to its fullest advantage.
From here: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...om_head_to_toe
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10-05-2010 , 02:41 PM
i'm sure it is. he mentions loosening the belt to get the feeling, but once the belt is tight i see no way to do anything but flex the abs. btw when i extend my stomach out, it is soft.

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Another aspect of this to keep in mind is the circumference of the waist line. If I suck my belly in my waist line measures 42 inches. If I pull air into my belly and push it out it measures 48 inches. The wider base the stronger the lifter. This is why lifters with a bigger waist squat more.
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10-05-2010 , 02:51 PM
When I contract my abs it certainly doesn't make my waist any bigger, if anything it's the opposite. That's probably because I suck the air into my chest and not my diaphragm though.

I recall Rip saying him and Tate basically describing the same thing. However, if I just naturally take big breath I suck the air into my chest. It's possible to push it downwards into the diaphragm instead, which results in another sensation entirely. Which one is better for squatting?
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10-05-2010 , 02:53 PM
You gotta admit, those fat power lifters do look like pyramids when they are at the bottom of their half squats.

Spoiler:


I wear my belt pretty tight, but there is a difference between how my abs are if I was bracing myself to take a punch, and how they are if I am "pushing them out" into the belt. I extend them out when I'm not wearing my belt as well, very possible i'm doing it wrong.
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10-05-2010 , 02:54 PM
When I extend my stomach out into my belt I can tighten the abs pretty easily - while they're pushed out. When you take that deep breath of air before you squat, you definitely want the air to push your stomach out & into the belt as much as possible.

Dave Tate mentioned this concept in something he wrote. Louie Simmons told him to do it during a powerlifting meet after he had failed a rep. The next rep went up pretty easy and I think he said something about adding ~50 lbs to his squat just by doing that. It is pretty simple physics. You widen your base and it makes you more stable & stronger.
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