I lol'd.

Not to give too much credence to the dumb stuff op is saying but is 255 10% really a healthy body composition to have? Particularly as it relates to the exogenous hormones that (I'm assuming) it takes to maintain that.

I think so, and my docs seem to think so too, currently.



(That is maintained on very low TRT doses, btw. Getting there to begin with, that's another story and part of the 20 years prior...)

Thanks, it was an honest question and I wasn't aware that it took so little. Carry on.

Reasonable question to be sure. Like I said, the 20 years prior may have some causation...or maybe not... no way to ever know.

Maintaining muscle that already there, is pretty easy. There are several studies that show that.

I think you may be mixing up our frequent references to *autistic* tendencies as a handicap, i.e. "autsy" or "auty", and the onomatopoeia "ouchie" which I assume is universal.

Sometimes the "autisticness" is a hindrance, such as when we never get around to doing deadlifts because we can't quite get our hands lined up evenly enough with a mixed grip (the trick is to omit 1.3xpinky from consideration on the underhand placement), and sometimes it is helpful; like I would never be able to accept any "top limit" time with a 1 in it, ffs! It would haunt me.

Speaking of haunting; if you want a pullup, why don't you just do lat pulldowns with any weight you can handle fairly easily for 3 sets of 5 reps, 2x per week adding 5 pounds each session? That way you'll be able to see progress each time, it won't add bulk, and within 2 months you'll add enough strength to get you right in the game.

I meant "ouchie". Sorry. It was just another log, where a guy made a long list of all pains he had and how he will work around them as a part of the plan to increase his strength. It just did set me off.

I will try your suggestion with pull-ups. From my experience a spread between "easy" and "I can't do it" for me is 20 kg. 50 kg is my absolute limit.
And I think I am doing it kind of wrong.... now that I am thinking about it. Tx for the idea. I am definitely going to try it out and will bug my trainer there that he ensures that I am doing it right. I fear that I will get to something like 55 kg as my limit and it won't get any better. At least it feels right now like that. But that is now empty talk. I have to try it out.

First warning. Don't use any language you wouldn't use with me in RL here. Especially not in the manner M05 does it.

You consider walking a cardio exercise. ...... I don't know.... I would be very disturbed if I would feel walking at all as exercise.

And about research and so..... I mean I understand that by googling you can find any info for support of anything, but:

"LIVESTRONG.COM Sports and Fitness Fitness How To Gain muscle
Does Lifting Heavy Weights Hurt Your Heart?
by CHARLES WEBB Last Updated: Sep 11, 2017
Does Lifting Heavy Weights Hurt Your Heart?
Every person who wants to build muscles practices by lifting heavy weights. While there are several benefits of strength training by lifting weights, there is also a potential threat to your heart that you have to consider. Always check with your health care professional before beginning a strenuous workout routine.

Lifting Weights and Impact on the Heart

Dr. David Ancona, a cardiologist with Memorial West in Pembroke Pines, Florida, says that it is very essential for people who lift weights to get a regular heart screening done. The reason is that lifting weights has a direct impact on the aorta, which is the heart's main artery. He says that lifting more than half your body weight will put an immense strain on your aorta, causing it to tear in some places.

Symptoms of Heart Problem due to Lifting Weights

Dr. John Elefteriades, chief of cardiothoracic surgery at Yale-New Haven Hospital, says that a rise in blood pressure from lifting heavier weights than half your body weight, can result in a torn aorta. The symptoms of a torn aorta are very similar to having a stroke. The pain is sharp and stabbing and it leads to the feeling of nausea, causing you to feel very light headed.

Research in this Field

A study by cardiothoracic surgeons at Yale-New Haven Hospital in December of 2003 proved that there is a strong link between heart problems and weight lifting, and strength training as a whole. Dr. Elefteriades, who led the study, says that the study was conducted on five healthy individuals who suffered a condition called aortic dissection during weight lifting. The study showed that heavy weight lifting can lead to a rise in blood pressure to almost 300."

I would be very disturbed if I was too weak to pull my body weight up, but here we both are.

I urge you to look at the mountains of material on Cardiac Rehab.

I also urge you to not confuse cardio for heart health with cardio for fat burning.

You do know there are studies out there with legit sample sizes (not like the n=5 stuff you posted below), that show that moderate walking has the same risk reductions (bp, cholesterol, heart, etc..) that vigorous running does? Or is this just another one of those things that you "think" or "feel"?



That article is hilarious. I can't believe there aren't people dying in every gym across the world based on that. More than half your bodyweight...loooooooooooool. Although that is certainly a fantastic way to lose muscle, as you were advocating earlier.

With such things on which you can find multiple various studies.... Like a study saying that eating XYZ leads to health problems. I personally would leave XYZ out, especially if I already had this special health problems, even if I would have doubts if it really leads to this problems. Especially if this problems are something like dying.

Cardio for fat burning will be actually more in aerobic area (more like walking or slow running). Cardio for heart health will be in more intensive anaerobic area.

I do believe that for you, at your weight walking is really an exercise. I don't doubt it. And this discussion is empty talk. At the end I will remain at my POV and you at yours.

And you just gave me a good push to attack this pull-up thing. I actually have to agree with you on this. It sounds like a totally good idea to be able to pull my weight up.

OK, so start with 30 kg for 3 sets of 5 reps. Rest about 3 minutes between sets. It should be pretty easy so you can concentrate on good smooth form. Pull it briskly and then let it go back a bit slower and under your control. It will stay easy each new session if you keep adding 2 kg, until it is *not*. This will probably be well north of 55 kg

This is similar to the 'Starting Strength' scheme that many of us started with and is more about neurological adaptation than packing on muscle.

You are saying dumb things. If I say something dumb in real life, I hope someone would be willing to tell me that I'm saying something dumb. It's quite a bit different than saying a person is dumb. I suppose it might have been more polite to say "silly", "ignorant", or "uninformed" so you can pretend I used one of those words if that helps.

I am saying things you consider as dumb. I am fine with that. The course of action I will have in this log is: If you consider that something I am saying is wrong, you are welcome to say that you consider it wrong together with the reasons why exactly.

If you don't know how to disagree with me in an acceptable manner, look at how G4S does that. He managed in unambiguous manner to express his disagreement without offending me.

And no, it doesn't help to pretend you have been polite where you haven't been and I won't. If you wanna mimic M05 do it somewhere else.

Frankly, what you said was pretty offensive to him, judging his entire lifestyle after he just had a near-death event. Especially when he's not your friend or family, didn't ask for your opinion, and especially not having even a passing knowledge of the physiology of strength training. When someone is as out of line as you were, it's fair game to call what they're saying dumb. It would have been a dumb thing to say even if you were right, by the way.

That said, it was not my intention to offend you with the comment. I was careless in my use of the word "dumb" and I honestly meant it as interchangeable with "ignorant" or "uninformed." I sincerely apologize for the mistake.

You are right, that G4S didn't ask me for my opinion.

G4S I see now that expressing of my opinion was offensive to you. I should really have kept it to myself. I am really sorry.

Speech, vision and willingness to confront unknown as attributes for an alpha. I agree with dude. :P

Inspired by MLYLT's box jumping

jumped today all stairs I had to take with both feet from step to step. Kind of in the same manner like box jumping is done. Why it is harder to take a stair in this manner than by just running a stair up one foot on one step, then another to the next? I mean the overall elevation is the same and the velocity if I run it up in a normal way is even higher than by jumping it up.

Same reason that it is easier running down the street rather than long-jumping down the street is my guess. Something to do with efficiency of movement.

RIP

She was the anti-EV. She got her 5k down to sub22 but did it by doing tempo runs three times a week. Not sustainable.

Moral of the story here is to do a lot of training at 70%. EV likes to live the good life at 40-50% and that leads to no gains. Lapka was hardcore and did too many 90 percenters.

RIP. That's why being on a reputable program so valuable. We in it for the long run and not a few weeks or to hit a goal weight. We grind everyday, mostly at 70%.

Loco,

if I don't post here doesn't mean that I don't do anything.
And I got my 5 k sub 21 :P! Don't diminish my results! Not sure if I get this year below 20 but defo the next. Looks also that I have no choice but to do one pull-up next year, although the credit for that goes not to me, but to my students, who collectively decided to be my personal trainer in that.


Posting here doesn't help me to achieve what I want to achieve. Correspondingly I am going to drop it.

Moral of the story.....

You are smart enough to understand yourself the moral of this story.

I didn't interact with every reg from HF, and I just wanted to express my biggest appreciation to Holliday. He is helpful, nice, and one of the very cool men here. On top he can run and juggle and he saved a kitty. Both of those things make me look-up in awe and wonder. I also appreciate nice light trolling of KC and Downtown. Both clearly don't feel scared by me. I appreciate you. You have a very different temperament to mine and your ability to get excited and enthusiastic for stuff like "YEAH.... I will run XYZ. Yeah... I am the fittest man in HF. I have lats. I am gonna to win XYZ" is kind of contagious. That is cool. I have a soft spot for G4S ......probably because with his red hair and whole appearance he reminds me very much of one very cool cat that I had. I appreciate Aidan and Monte for keeping their cool in a tough mod job. I appreciate BustoR for the feeling, that exercise can be fun and something social, that he creates with his sessions with other guys.

I am sure, that there are more cool guys here, with whom I just didn't interact so much.

Yeahhhhh...... And again, me not posting here is not equal to me not working out.

loco,

Gotta sting, being left out like that.