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11-07-2013 , 12:19 AM
I have one that is already paid for. Just have to go in.

But going to wait til it's been a year since the last one. Need to make sure I gain "something." Looking over my weight and tale of the tape numbers I would be ecstatic with 3-4 lb increase in LBM in one year. But that has to be staying at the same weight so then we know it wasn't water coming along the ride.

Sure sure I can bulk to 180, get DEXA and say oh wow look at all that LBM. But like I said previously, that would all be fake Rippetoe magic.
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11-07-2013 , 12:22 AM
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Don't bother killing anyone. Just get to the point where you can do 100 pullups like he can. Where you can do pull up rows and crazy levers. Then you might have a decent back.

Or just decide a 1.1k total, a 0.75BW press, and 12 deadhang pullups is about the max you'll ever achieve au naturale and hop on some steroids, get a bloofy looking bloat going, not actually look all that much better, and wish you had access to the real stuff.
super solid burns, lol. Did you have to go into my log to do that research or was it all by memory? I'm actually impressed.
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11-07-2013 , 12:22 AM
Ok cool. I recently checkd out Berkhan's site, and tried to read a handful. What's the good and bad with leangains/Berkhan?
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11-07-2013 , 12:26 AM
no, those weren't directed at you specifically, those are just pretty typical #s where people who train reasonably hard find themselves after a couple years and they start spinning their wheels and wondering why they don't look like exceptional athletes who've been training for 10+ years.
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11-07-2013 , 02:31 AM
Deep depression causing video, don't watch this loco:



Freakish levels of upper body strength. 5'6 230. Fat. Cut. DYEL? in street clothes. Barely any arms/shoulders. Devastating. Fack.


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You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger waste of time exercise than leg extensions.

Pure strength overrated.

Every poster with a 4 plate squat has respectable leg development.

Every poster with a bug bench has solid upper body development.

Every big deadlifter has a thick back.

You know what's overrated? Freaking out every time your bodyweight increases 3 lbs and jumping right back to cut cut cut cardio bunny mode. Have fun with that, sisyphus.
Ultimately true in the case of H+F. I guess he just sees a few youtube guys who are strong but not that jacked and freaks out and believes that will be him.

And Busto has a much more visibly impressive back than KRSOne despite the fact that the latter is DLing near 600lbs (or over?).

If you get to being strong at 10s in the 4 lifts you will definitely look like it. Strong 1rms, maybe not, but even then you will still probably look like it.

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11-07-2013 , 03:32 AM
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If you get to being strong at 10s in the 4 lifts you will definitely look like it. Strong 1rms, maybe not, but even then you will still probably look like it.
I think that this is where loco disagrees with you and is the source of his sads. That Max dude that he linked a video of obviously has a beastly 10 RM of DL based on the video. I suspect (but I could be wrong) he has strong 10 RM of the other lifts. Assuming that he does, he definitely doesn't look like it. That's the problem.
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11-07-2013 , 09:52 AM
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Wow Jon North blew up quickly.
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11-07-2013 , 10:05 AM
The busto counterpoint isn't really a counterpoint, because busto can perform impressive feats on a pullup bar. I will guarantee you krs has more developed and impressive erectors than busto, and probably a more impressive mid back (lat insertions to the spine).

There's this incredibly ******ed trend around here of finding n=1 examples and being like "see?" so one twink pulls 5 and doesn't look that impressive (I will guarantee you he has a better physique than loco). Oh noes a 160 lbs sumo puller doesn't look hyoooge. As if 160 didn't already explain that.
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11-07-2013 , 10:13 AM
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Ok cool. I recently checkd out Berkhan's site, and tried to read a handful. What's the good and bad with leangains/Berkhan?
Everything he writes is good, except:

1. He's nuts, but I don't let that affect my opinion
2. The benefits seem to be a bit overstated - fasting is mostly a convenience thing
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11-07-2013 , 10:50 AM
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The benefits seem to be a bit overstated - fasting is mostly a convenience thing
Yeah I definitely agree with this, with the caveat that it is convenience and compliance. After about 3 months once I got completely used to being fasted my cravings for crappy foods was greatly diminished. And after doing it for a couple years now, at this point my appetite pretty much just hovers around "meh, I could eat" regardless of whether I last ate 2 or 20 hours ago. So convenience and compliance are the biggest selling points.

I think all the set point and leptin and insulin sensitivity and hormones stuff is completely negligible until you're very lean. Like if you struggle to get below 12% on a traditional diet, IF may help you get down to like 10%. But it's not like it is a vastly more efficient way to get down to 12% in the first place, nor is it a vastly superior way to run a lean bulk.
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11-07-2013 , 10:59 AM
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I think that this is where loco disagrees with you and is the source of his sads. That Max dude that he linked a video of obviously has a beastly 10 RM of DL based on the video. I suspect (but I could be wrong) he has strong 10 RM of the other lifts. Assuming that he does, he definitely doesn't look like it. That's the problem.
There's a video of him pressing only 120x17 which is pitiful. He also only squats like in the low 300s for fives. During his back workout he pretty much only does a few barbell rows+pulldowns for accessories. And then let's not forget that anyone who's drastically underweight for their height is going to be dyel.

Anyway, loco don't freak out get strong in 10s on compound lifts + a high volume of more isolation based bodybuilding reps and you'll be fine.

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11-07-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Oh noes a 160 lbs sumo puller doesn't look hyoooge. As if sumo puller didn't already explain that.
Fmp. Couldn't resist.
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11-07-2013 , 12:58 PM
LOLLLL KC nice
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11-07-2013 , 10:47 PM
11/6
Upperbody volume
11/7
Abs
45min LISS

Weight 160

Went to the powerlifting meet in Vegas today. Saw the 181lbers. Saw one of them deadlift 740. Beast. There was a DYEL 181 pounder that looked like Jdock. "Only" got 425 deadlift.

Pretty much over my depression. Ready to wrap up the cut on Monday. Going to come in at 14% DEXA. Which is around my optimal bodyfat for general health. Mission accomplished. Now time for some programming and more food. Easy game. We move on.
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11-07-2013 , 11:14 PM
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There's a video of him pressing only 120x17 which is pitiful. He also only squats like in the low 300s for fives. During his back workout he pretty much only does a few barbell rows+pulldowns for accessories. And then let's not forget that anyone who's drastically underweight for their height is going to be dyel.

Anyway, loco don't freak out get strong in 10s on compound lifts + a high volume of more isolation based bodybuilding reps and you'll be fine.
OK, well I guess he doesn't qualify then for being strong on all the compound lifts. I kind of assumed that since Candito was one of the dudes he was challenging, he would have similar lifts across the board.

Actually, I'm interested in what locobro thinks of Candito's looks. That guy clearly is strong in all the compound lifts. Does he look like a DYEL or not?
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11-07-2013 , 11:20 PM
Candito has an absolutely massive massive lowerbody. Probably too much. Tree trunk legs.

Upperbody is okay but blown away by his lower body. His upperbody is achievable for me and I will hit that within two years. Well unless my shoulders fall apart but I am very anal about my shoulder health so I should be okay.
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11-07-2013 , 11:55 PM
How tall were the 181ers you saw?
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11-08-2013 , 12:00 AM
181ers were probably average 5'8". Unfortunately I missed the 165ers.
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11-08-2013 , 01:12 AM
Is 14% dexa comparable to what I used to be when I started my thread? Never got it before but I think u assumed I would be 12-14% dexa if I remember correctly. In any case, start that bulk and eat low fat pop tarts like I do for the gainzz.
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11-08-2013 , 01:46 AM
You were probably 12% DEXA. Which is very impressive. Realbusto has a pic in July where he was around 10% DEXA. I will post some pics on Monday. I have no problems cutting even further. On my cut from 168 to 160, my average daily calorie consumption was 2500. Saw gets obese on those types of calories.

The problem is I don't think there are any health benefits to cutting more. And since I don't have the LBM to support more cutting, I stop the cut on Monday.

I still think I can accomplish 50% of my goals for the year. Maybe even 75%. It's going to involve pure strength training. But I rather accomplish half my goals than zero. So stay tuned. Loco is back!!!!!! And he is here to defend the rebranding of the goldenloco!!!
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11-08-2013 , 02:46 AM
2500 calories? damn, must have dat good metabolism. I was doing around 2000-2200. What are your goals for this next year? strength and bodybuilding wise.
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11-08-2013 , 08:35 PM
11/8
Weight: 159.5

Squat 225 5x3 185x10
Leg press 450 3x8
DB SLDL 70s 3x8
Leg curl 145x12 160x8 175x6
Seated calf 3 sets
Standing cable crunch 3x25

That's all. While Cha and weasel were squatting 500 I did 5 triples of 225. Still not sure why I am so small. 159?!!!!
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11-08-2013 , 08:53 PM
Still doing leg curls? Confused.

159. Wow. Realbusto low weight.
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11-08-2013 , 11:16 PM
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11/8
Weight: 159.5
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11-09-2013 , 12:20 AM
weight in the 150s?? up dem calories
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