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10-19-2021 , 11:40 AM
10/18 3Weeks to NY Marathon D1
2.5 miles 20:54

Aborted, calf pain 6/10 after 1 mile. Ok, it's time to hit the panic button. I know this thing will fully heal in two weeks. It's been 10 days now but I aggravated it twice already. So, maybe I will try Friday again. After Sunday I am locked in at that level of fitness, so rest recuperate. This thing came at the worst time possible. Playing basketball after running 20 miles not one of my smartest moves.
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10-19-2021 , 02:29 PM
10/19 3Weeks to NY Marathon D2
Elliptical 90 minutes 135 avg heart rate 1200 cals

It's not over til the fat lady sings
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10-19-2021 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
10/18 3Weeks to NY Marathon D1
2.5 miles 20:54

Aborted, calf pain 6/10 after 1 mile. Ok, it's time to hit the panic button. I know this thing will fully heal in two weeks. It's been 10 days now but I aggravated it twice already. So, maybe I will try Friday again. After Sunday I am locked in at that level of fitness, so rest recuperate. This thing came at the worst time possible. Playing basketball after running 20 miles not one of my smartest moves.
be smart now...not a donk.

you've been training all year for this and you're not gonna get much faster in the next few days. only priority is to get yourself to the start line with a body that can get you to the finish line
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10-21-2021 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
be smart now...not a donk.

you've been training all year for this and you're not gonna get much faster in the next few days. only priority is to get yourself to the start line with a body that can get you to the finish line
Yes
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10-21-2021 , 08:36 PM
10/21
Full Body

3Weeks to NY Marathon D3
Elliptical 60:24 800cals 135 avg heart rate

Hacent been logging my lifting but have done like 5 full bodies during this injury. Stuff like today

Hammer Strength Incline Bench 3x12
Hammer High Row 3x6
Seated calf raise 3x10
Standing calf raise 3x8
Reverse Lunges 2x5

It gets my heart a little worked up and then I can easily hit 130+ on the elliptical.

Calf feeling 95%, might take her out for a spin this weekend. A slow spin because the faster running has been busting my calf.
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10-23-2021 , 07:50 PM
10/22 3Weeks to NY Marathon D4
Moderate Endurance Run 7 miles 50:30 (7:23 per mile)
135 avg heart rate

Felt good, calf felt 99% recovered. I think key is to not near 6:00 mile pace, aggravetes calf injury.

10/23 3Weeks to NY Marathon D5
AM
Moderate Endurance Run 7 miles 49:00
1 mile wu + 6 miles at goal Marathon pace
140 avg heart rate

3/10 calf pain but stopped soon after it started, feels fine 8 hours later. The heart rate data looks okay



We see the warmup mile at a chill 125 avg heart rate and then goal marathon pace goes quickly to 143 heart rate but then it just stays there for the full 6 miles. A sign of a strong aerobic engine, when there is zero deterioration.

Unfortunate there was pain but I will have two weeks to taper and fully recover.

PM
Lite FullBody
Elliptical 60:00 129 avg heart rate
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10-23-2021 , 08:00 PM
Also forgot to mention, but I will be able to hold 148-151 avg heart rate for a full Marathon. I really think I have the heart and lungs to blast my goal out of the water but I might not have the wheels. Something might come lose and I will have to cry uncle on one leg. It could be a calf or in other races it has been a cramping hamstring. Doubt the latter, I will be running too slow for that. Today 6 miles at goal marathon pace felt joke easy.
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10-24-2021 , 11:54 PM
10/24 3 Weeks to NY Marathon D6
Calves
Core

Elliptical 30 min

Pretty weaksauce week, only 6 hours of cardio in my most important week of training. Depressed, it was 45F the whole week and I was sweating away on the elliptical.

I think I have emphasized enough that besides the hot weather training, my training has been easy and enjoyable.

And yet I was scolded for running my intervals too hard. The author of my program also suggested I postpone my marathon, doesnt like the seriousness of my injury. Or told me to stop the race if I feel pain.

Seems weak. I disagree, I did not run my intervals too hard. In fact, I think bettered his program by using progression overload from lifting, applied to running. Every interval I tried to cap it at 95% of lactate threshold, getting faster and faster and also increasing the speed of the recovery. It was nonstop progression overload. Obviously nowhere near as aggro as feelwrath but also not overly aggressive.

They disagree, they think my intervals point to someone who is in 34-35 min 10k shape. And my strava has me at 40 min shape and thus I am running way too fast and that's what led to my multiple calf strains. Yet my strava does not paint an accurate picture of my training, none of the treadmill workouts are included and that's a majority of my training.

There is no other option, I have to race to prove my training has worked. Hoping to survive the marathon so then I can run a 17:xx 5k and a sub36 10k.
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10-25-2021 , 01:34 AM
Prolly no surprise that I 100% agree with your decision to race.

I think you'll be fine with two weeks of sensible training and rehab, but even if the worst comes to the worst....a DNF has way more integrity than a DNS
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10-25-2021 , 09:03 PM
10/25 2Weeks to NY Marathon D1
1 hour elliptical 132 avg heart rate

So sick of the sweatfests on the elliptical. I come in at 157 and leave at 154lbs. Shirt completely drenched. While outside it's 52F everyday. Why the running Gods punishing me?

Morning weight around 155. 10 day mini-Cut now commencing.
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10-25-2021 , 10:21 PM
Good luck buddy; I can't say I really grok the intricacies of your training, but I will say that I get not being built for constant 135 HR snoozefests (even discounting the fact that my training zones appear to naturally skew a bit higher than that regardless).
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10-27-2021 , 10:51 AM
10/26 2Weeks to NY Marathon D2
Half Mararthon 1:27:50 (PR)
150 avg heart rate

I AM BACK.



Plan was to do easy half marathon in 1:30, test the new Vaporfly2s and the calf was feeling 98%. I also planned to stop at the first sign of pain.

Started off at 6:48 pace and heart rate quickly went to 146. But the RPE felt lowish so I decided to just stay in the high 140s for the whole half marathon. Felt good but I realized why heart rate was so high, I was going into a Wind and slight incline at times.

I was also angry that people had snooped my strava and concluded I was a slow 19min 5ker. Look man, my strava is incomplete. I delete runs all the time if I am in a sensitive location and none of my treadmill runs are included.

So I finished off this easy half marathon with a 19min 5k and a 5:45 last mile, show these doubters.

For a half marathon, if I actually race I should average 155-159 heart rate. So definitely left gas in the tank. Honestly, the first 8 miles felt like am easy run and it wasn't til I blasted off the last 4-5 miles that heart rate broke 150.

Next day my toes are a little sore but everything else, including calf, feels 98%. Time to rest and recover. Feeling more confident.
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10-27-2021 , 03:06 PM
Glad to hear you are back. Now stay there and maybe don't spite donk yourself back to the sidelines teaching rando doubters lessons about your jets. Enjoy the taper and good luck on the 7th!!
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10-27-2021 , 06:40 PM
congratulations on the PB and I'm glad that your calf held up

do we have sub 2.50 in us? feels like it
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11-01-2021 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FloppyJ
Glad to hear you are back. Now stay there and maybe don't spite donk yourself back to the sidelines teaching rando doubters lessons about your jets. Enjoy the taper and good luck on the 7th!!
Yes. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by feel wrath
congratulations on the PB and I'm glad that your calf held up

do we have sub 2.50 in us? feels like it
No. NY is a tough course. I've got good weather coming up but the women course record is the 165th fastest marathon ever run. That's a tough course my friend. Male course record is also not even top100.

Add the injury, incomplete training, no incentive to run faster than 2:58, and the boston marathon qualification is a bucket list ítem only and I see absolutely no reason to go for low 2:50s. Plus I would be out of commission for a month, previous marathons have busted me for weeks and weeks.

I am pretty set on going off at a 1:29 half and using heart rate data to run at 95-98% of my potential. Disappointing I know but I am looking to possibly check off my other goal for the year. And that's the big rock. 4:XX mile has always been a major goal for me. I might be able to backdoor into it by Dec30th of this year. But only if I am healthy.
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11-01-2021 , 06:57 PM
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Yes. Thanks.



No. NY is a tough course. I've got good weather coming up but the women course record is the 165th fastest marathon ever run. That's a tough course my friend. Male course record is also not even top100.

Add the injury, incomplete training, no incentive to run faster than 2:58, and the boston marathon qualification is a bucket list ítem only and I see absolutely no reason to go for low 2:50s. Plus I would be out of commission for a month, previous marathons have busted me for weeks and weeks.

I am pretty set on going off at a 1:29 half and using heart rate data to run at 95-98% of my potential. Disappointing I know but I am looking to possibly check off my other goal for the year. And that's the big rock. 4:XX mile has always been a major goal for me. I might be able to backdoor into it by Dec30th of this year. But only if I am healthy.
yeah, I get it. I remember how pumped by brother was when he first got his BQ

it kind of bums me a little that I ran my marathon on a 'slow' course and also that we had a relatively warm day and worse...the state did back burning that day so we were all inhaling bad air which can't have helped. I always figured I'd run a second one on a fast, flat track at some point to get a better time, but could never muster the desire after the first one and it won't happen now that I'm a sedentary, indoor sportsman with bad knees.

not that I'd have got to sub 3 with the amount of running I did, but I think 3.10/3.15 would have been possible.
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11-02-2021 , 10:56 AM
Bit late on this, but congratulations on your easy PR.
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11-02-2021 , 11:04 PM
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Bit late on this, but congratulations on your easy PR.
Ty sir, but just chump PRs unless I go 98%+.
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11-02-2021 , 11:20 PM
10/28 2Weeks to NY Marathon D3
8x400m w/equal jog recovery
5 miles 36:25 130 avg heart rate

10/29 2Weeks to NY Marathon D4
5x1000m w/800m jog recovery
7 miles total 52:22
127 avg heart rate

Really good heart rate data here, feeling confident.

10/30 2Weeks to NY Marathon D5

Full Body
Cycling Intervals 12x45s fast 90s slow
40:22 122avg heart rate
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11-02-2021 , 11:42 PM
11/1 1week to NY Marathon D1
AM
Easy 10K 40:07
154 avg heart rate

PM
3point supinated row 3x8 65s
Nautilus Lat Pulldown 2x12
Nautilus shoulder press 2x12
Unilateral leg press 2x8
RFESS 3x5 35s
Leg curl 2x8
Seated Calf 4x10
45deg legpress calf raise 3x12
Ab wheel 3x12

Not feeling as confident here, that easy 10k had plenty of gas in the tank but heart rate seems high. I was hoping to run it at 150-152 avg heart rate. It was windy so I am hoping that was the issue. It was also on a boardwalk without my supershoes and I lose 1-2% at 62F sunny.

But the good news is I have survived all the major training and I am about 99%. A few more easy interval sessions and time to race. Getting a little anxious, this might be a nail biter. The first mile has a whopping 150 feet in elevation climb, some verrazano bridge. I seen a strategy guide to run that first mile 45s slow. That seems slow as fack, gonna go with Olivia Rodrigo's Deja Vu to keep things slow then maybe go into



Here's my key
Philosophy
A freak like me
Just needs infinity

Relax
Take your time

And take your time
To trust in me
And you will find
Infinity, infinity


Definitely starting this banger at around 2hr50min into the marathon and hopefully it propels me all the way to Boston.



If anyone has any bangers like this, let me know. Please no heavy metal.
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11-03-2021 , 08:06 PM
A couple of those are solid and I added them to my 3 hour list.
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11-03-2021 , 08:12 PM
11/3 1Week to NY Marathon D2
EIM 6x1000m w/800m jog recovery
8 miles 1:01:38
Avg heart rate 134

Disturbing heart rate data again and this was similar to the half marathon, RPE did not match heart rate. This felt joke easy but heart rate said it was not joke easy. Don't know what's going on. All I can think of is Wind. Today I was using supershoes but lots of gravel.

I will do a baby run in NY to see if it happens over there also. I am hoping for good numbers in NY on Friday or Saturday.
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11-03-2021 , 08:23 PM
wow. only 3 days away.
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11-03-2021 , 08:31 PM
Anyways, the reason this heart rate data is disturbing is because two weeks ago I was running these 1000s close to 6:00 mile pace at the same heart rate. Today I was running closer to 6:40 pace, which is slightly faster than goal marathon pace.

That is disturbing because these 1000s are basically being run at marathon average heart rate. That's the heart rate I can average for a marathon (148-151).

I am in trouble if I keep running like this. Hopefully it's just the Wind, a new unresearched enemy of mine. It was 15mph on Monday and boardwalk and 11mph today and gravel. Obviously lower running economy on these surfaces.

Or I picked up the Corona.
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