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Old 04-08-2020, 08:01 AM   #901
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****ING SIMP LMAO. JUST WAIT UNTIL SHE CHEATS WITH ALPHA BRAD CHAD BARISTA BARTENDER GAMBLER WHO WEARS SUPREME AND $300 RAW DENIM. WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT, PHAGOT?
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Old 04-08-2020, 09:11 AM   #902
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But seriously, I have some admiration for the montes and Kelhuses of the world who can do the marrying early and dadding with high investment in one partner and kids. It takes a lot of sacrifice that weaker fellas like myself and villain just aren't capable of (yet, at least). Especially in 2020 in a western country where the legal system can heavily punish you for even just perceived ****ups or inadequacies.

It's a tough bullet to bite and I'm glad they can do it for us lolol.
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Old 04-08-2020, 09:49 AM   #903
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It's a pretty good comparison actually. Show me a study where running slower with good form makes your knees sorer than if you ran faster with the same, good form. And yes, you can run slowly with good form.
Is it possible to run slowly with good form? Sure, I guess. Is it probable for most people? Not really.

There are two components to pace - stride length and turnover. To run at a slower pace, one or the other, but almost always a combination of both, need to decrease. Form deteriorates rapidly once stride length starts decreasing by a significant amount. You just can't keep good form while chopping your steps short. This causes shock to your legs that just doesn't happen at a higher pace. Most people also begin to heel strike at this point, further reducing the body's natural shock absorption.

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OK, the loco has spoken. Not much detail vis-a-vis qualifications, but we have to start somewhere. Your turn, Didace.
As far as I can tell loco's stated qualification is that at one time he could do a lot of pull-ups with questionable form. So in response I will say that in elementary school I was the jumping-jack king.
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Old 04-08-2020, 01:48 PM   #904
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As far as I can tell loco's stated qualification is that at one time he could do a lot of pull-ups with questionable form. So in response I will say that in elementary school I was the jumping-jack king.
Yeah, this is not going well.

Let's just skip to the part where you guys post marathon times or whatever. Then loco can say, "Didn't log, doesn't count", and we can all have a good lel.
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Old 04-08-2020, 02:54 PM   #905
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Good god, why would I ever want to run a marathon?
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Old 04-08-2020, 03:53 PM   #906
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Good god, why would I ever want to run a marathon?

That’s just what a beta male provider who wears baggy Costco jeans and Cole Hahns would say.

Lol dids 2.0
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Old 04-08-2020, 03:55 PM   #907
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Look didace, I don't want to run you outta here. I been known to do that to new guys because they don't log. But here is the thing, if you don't log its all fake. If you did something 20 years ago, it's all fake.

That's the beauty of H&F. Logging makes it real. The people know I keep up with the science of running and natural lifting because I log. To catch up with all the newest running stuff, you would have to read Fitzgerald's 80/20, The science of Running, the podcasts by Dr. Stephen Seiler, and the super nerdy stuff from Dr Inigo San Millan. All stuff that I have already researched extensively.

And not just that, I actually run almost everyday. I am not just a Boston Qualifier, but I take on ex-collegiate athletes at mile races. Sure I don't win the damn thing because I am not going to run a 4:30 mile without some serious training and burning some muscle away, but my 5:10 mile at age 41 (I am 42 now) is respectable. And my online coach is 3 time Olympian Nick Willis. The 200m repeats I gave my boy N1 were a lighter version of what Nick has me do. He is still young enough that he can do more sprinting but that's not gonna happen the first day. I wanted him to top out at little slower than 4:00 mile pace, super aggro even taking into account his lifting.

So yeah, that's the beauty of this forum. We don't get crazy uneducated donkey posts like the politics and finance forums because the guys here actually work out everyday and keeping up with science. So when new guys come in yapping nonsense, they Grandpa Simpson turn around and out of the forum.

You are welcome to start a log and tell us all about the good old days. But you are going to have to catch up fast on the science and start logging some actual runs before anything you say gets taken seriously. That's the beauty of H&F, small community but no fake shiet around here.
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Old 04-08-2020, 04:00 PM   #908
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wait... so having a family is beta in N1's book? what if he wears proper fit pants as he reads a bedtime story to his kids before taking them off to have vaginal sex with his wife in efforts to create another child in their monogamous relationship?

A family man is not on his purpose like ABP. That sheit is for yuppies.

Also, and ABP appears to only be impressed by anal. Vaginas are for beta providers apparently.

You missed in the previous thread ABP inquiring if he can get his girlfriend pregnant via anal (thus the under title), and texting her to #stayplugged after gifting her a particular sex toy.

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Old 04-08-2020, 04:00 PM   #909
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Then loco can say, "Didn't log, doesn't count", and we can all have a good lel.
That didn't take long.
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Old 04-08-2020, 05:30 PM   #910
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wait... so having a family is beta in N1's book? what if he wears proper fit pants as he reads a bedtime story to his kids before taking them off to have vaginal sex with his wife in efforts to create another child in their monogamous relationship?
AS IF ALPHA BRAD CHAD BARISTA BARTENDER GAMBLER WHO WEARS SUPREME AND $300 RAW DENIM WANTED VAGINAL SEX.

YOU APPARENTLY CAN'T READ RICK, THE A IN ABP ALSO STANDS FOR ANAL.
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Old 04-08-2020, 05:34 PM   #911
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Also, and ABP appears to only be impressed by anal. Vaginas are for beta providers apparently.
Always liked you Saklad
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Old 04-08-2020, 08:11 PM   #912
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A family man is not on his purpose like ABP. That sheit is for yuppies.

Also, and ABP appears to only be impressed by anal. Vaginas are for beta providers apparently.

You missed in the previous thread ABP inquiring if he can get his girlfriend pregnant via anal (thus the under title), and texting her to #stayplugged after gifting her a particular sex toy.

see you
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Old 04-09-2020, 12:27 AM   #913
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Do you still have the foxtail plug ABP?
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Old 04-09-2020, 12:27 PM   #914
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GRUNCH

I AM BUSY. WILL GET BACK TO YOU LATER.

loco, this was yesterday:



man. legs felt heavy that last mile but i push it. i keep nice pace but for some reason my brain telling me to go faster deep into the run. ABP MENTALITY.

doing 3 miles soon. legs and thighs and crotch a bit sore, but not stopping me.

see you soon.
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Old 04-09-2020, 12:52 PM   #915
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Was that continuos or did you do the 200m repeats in there?

If it was continuos, that's a tempo run. That's pretty good if you had some gas in the tank. Means you are good for 1 mile in the mid to high 6s. A natural runner most likely.

I mean you could start getting more aggro next week

Easy run 5 miles (9:30 max speed,should feel like jogging on beach and you can talk to yourself in sentences)

Tempo run 3 to 4 miles (you should feel uncomfortable, maybe 8:00 pace)

Easy run 3 miles (9:30) max pace

200m repeats with easy running


That would be aggro for a beginner but I went out way harder when I first got started. If you have a lot of heart, anything is possible. But I regretted it, I got lucky that I was learning at the same time and adjusted in time to make endurance training a lifetime hobby.

If I were you, I would be more worried about my muscle. 200m repeats and hard pushup/pullup variations. Serious distance running is for DYELS.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:28 PM   #916
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N1 is a 7:10 miler, untrained (solid).
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Means you are good for 1 mile in the mid to high 6s.
Looks like that loco approved 11min/mile training program is paying off!
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Old 04-09-2020, 02:11 PM   #917
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The more runs he posts, the more info we will know. But a 4 miler in 32:00 does not really tell us much, we need heart rate data to know more. But it does tell us he is in decent shape, I mean I think he can already outrun Arjun.

Knowing the kid, it was faster than tempo pace. Which is fine, he has a lot of heart. There are whole training programs based on higher intensity stuff and its usually lower mileage. There is no way regular humans can run these. I have in the past and I know my boy could do it too, but then he is going to look back at running with the donk mentality that he didn't enjoy it.

Anyways, I am not going to spend too much time on this because he is going to give it up when the gyms come back. I spent a little bit just in case he wanted to learn. Nah, he just wants to run fast. That's fine, its not like he is going to run more than 20 miles a week. He can run as fast as he wants, but it will be a temporary fling and not marriage. Which sounds reasonable, running is for DYELS.
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As an aside, my younger brother is same height and about the same weight as N1. More upperbody muscle but a lot less lowerbody muscle. His bodyfat is higher.

Using the HRM, we worked out his easy pace at 11:00 to 13:00 a mile!!! He had massive aerobic drift for an easy 5 miler. Started at 10:30 and ended up at 12:30. LOL. He so out of shape.

Now, N1 doing 4 miles in 32:00 a great sign. But again, that for sure was faster than tempo. I know the kid, too much heart.
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Old 04-10-2020, 07:46 AM   #919
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Was that continuos or did you do the 200m repeats in there?

If it was continuos, that's a tempo run. That's pretty good if you had some gas in the tank. Means you are good for 1 mile in the mid to high 6s. A natural runner most likely.

I mean you could start getting more aggro next week

Easy run 5 miles (9:30 max speed,should feel like jogging on beach and you can talk to yourself in sentences)

Tempo run 3 to 4 miles (you should feel uncomfortable, maybe 8:00 pace)

Easy run 3 miles (9:30) max pace

200m repeats with easy running


That would be aggro for a beginner but I went out way harder when I first got started. If you have a lot of heart, anything is possible. But I regretted it, I got lucky that I was learning at the same time and adjusted in time to make endurance training a lifetime hobby.

If I were you, I would be more worried about my muscle. 200m repeats and hard pushup/pullup variations. Serious distance running is for DYELS.
it was 4 miles continuous. u tell me to do that for 2 weeks and get back to you, but seeing that i have big heart, u are changing some plans for me.

what is DYELS?

i did push ups/triceps yesterday. weak af. 3 weeks no training will do this to ectomorph. i did 3 sets push ups 30/20/20 then tricep dips BWx15x3. sore af right now. my right pectoral kept on getting stuck. had a massive pump after.

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The more runs he posts, the more info we will know. But a 4 miler in 32:00 does not really tell us much, we need heart rate data to know more. But it does tell us he is in decent shape, I mean I think he can already outrun Arjun.

Knowing the kid, it was faster than tempo pace. Which is fine, he has a lot of heart. There are whole training programs based on higher intensity stuff and its usually lower mileage. There is no way regular humans can run these. I have in the past and I know my boy could do it too, but then he is going to look back at running with the donk mentality that he didn't enjoy it.

Anyways, I am not going to spend too much time on this because he is going to give it up when the gyms come back. I spent a little bit just in case he wanted to learn. Nah, he just wants to run fast. That's fine, its not like he is going to run more than 20 miles a week. He can run as fast as he wants, but it will be a temporary fling and not marriage. Which sounds reasonable, running is for DYELS.
no. when the gym opens i will continue to run. i want to live the aesthetic/powerlifting/EV lifestyle. all of last year i sat around 15%ish body fat. no abs, but didn't look bad. beach season upon us soon. it is hard to do both, but i got the big heart like u say.

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As an aside, my younger brother is same height and about the same weight as N1. More upperbody muscle but a lot less lowerbody muscle. His bodyfat is higher.

Using the HRM, we worked out his easy pace at 11:00 to 13:00 a mile!!! He had massive aerobic drift for an easy 5 miler. Started at 10:30 and ended up at 12:30. LOL. He so out of shape.

Now, N1 doing 4 miles in 32:00 a great sign. But again, that for sure was faster than tempo. I know the kid, too much heart.
the one i met? he is a nice guy. his chelsea boots was nice, but i think he should upgrade. Allen Edmonds going downhill. RM Williams suits him well. most comfortable boots ive ever worn. whole cut leather, not like the rest of these clown yuppie brands. a classy guy like him needs it. he would love it.

loco knows. no one can stop me as long as i have the big heart that i have. not even a flu stopped me from a lift session during ABPxLoco. I HAD AMRAP DL THAT DAY.
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Old 04-10-2020, 07:49 AM   #920
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loco,

i do this today.





i warm up to the donk track as you can see. i did 8x200m like you say. 1:30-2:00 minutes slow jog in between. was gassed after. so i tried to time 1/10 of a mile. i was around 35-40 seconds. i think that is slow. 200m not my race. i think 100m is my type. usain bolt ran 19.39 200m back in London. that is crazy.

should i keep doing this? my legs are sore between yesterday and today. might need a rest day tomorrow.

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A family man is not on his purpose like ABP. That sheit is for yuppies.

Also, and ABP appears to only be impressed by anal. Vaginas are for beta providers apparently.

You missed in the previous thread ABP inquiring if he can get his girlfriend pregnant via anal (thus the under title), and texting her to #stayplugged after gifting her a particular sex toy.

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AS IF ALPHA BRAD CHAD BARISTA BARTENDER GAMBLER WHO WEARS SUPREME AND $300 RAW DENIM WANTED VAGINAL SEX.

YOU APPARENTLY CAN'T READ RICK, THE A IN ABP ALSO STANDS FOR ANAL.
LOVE IT.

Saklad and DI- the 2 older brothers that I never had Project ABPProject ABPProject ABPProject ABP

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Do you still have the foxtail plug ABP?
yes. do you want it? still in original packaging. deadstock. reselling it for $35 shipped.
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Old 04-10-2020, 08:19 AM   #922
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just got news i am off til the end of the month. all paid. love it.

then i got news that in a couple of weeks i can come work at another location. all orders will be mobile, and pay will add +$3 to hourly. how about no.

i got my 1st catastrophe pay direct deposit today. was expecting much much less. not sure how they determined the # of hours but i will take it.

see you soon. eat my bowl of fruits then walking my dog.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:17 AM   #923
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You are turning down a $3/hr pay increase? Isn't that like 20%?

I assume the real reason is it is farther away and you don't have any way to get there.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:37 AM   #924
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Did you get the $1200 also? Saw someone in my feed post a bank screenshot story of it(think it was WF)
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Old 04-10-2020, 10:07 AM   #925
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The training is never hard/hard on back to back days. Its always easy/hard. I normally do easy/easy/hard/easy/easy, but with mile training I am doing two hard. You just did easy/hard/hard, of course you should take a freaking day off.

And if your 200s are slow, then your 100s are going to be slow. You not a speed demon bro. Where you pretty slow to first base? But you can do 100s if you want, I don't really measure them and instead do strides from 10s to 20s. Look up strides.
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