This last fall I did an LP and got pretty strong but developed some anterior pelvic tilt. Noticed my abs were weak like kitten and have added some planks and weighted crunches at the end of the session which seems to have corrected it.

In my personal case, I didn't notice carryover from direct ab work but had better results correcting my form by doing close variants of the bb lifts that made bracing more the limiting factor. Pause or tempo squats for example. I think if you want to be stronger in a position it's better to load that position than to apply non-specific stress to the muscles that are involved. Just my take. I don't think there is much of a consensus on this stuff.

Ab work = stronger abs.
Ab work = better looking abs (assuming you're not fat).


Isn't that enough to throw some ab work in a couple times a week, which amounts to mere minutes?

I don't think I asked this question here. But if I had I apologize

I was using Big Lifts 2 and loved it as I could add Front Squats put in my one rep max and it calculated a program to get stronger. Problem is new phone and even though I backed up everything it cant update it as Big Lifts is gone

All the other programs only seem to be the four lifts Deadlift, bench, SP and BS. I cant add any lifts

Any suggestions?

Use 0.6-0.7 of the squat number?

On the faults of trad-con conception of marriage.


Curious to hear the thoughts of the long-married/previously married fellas regarding this video. Feels silly for me to make any conclusions given never-married status.

Wow, that guy sure hates women.

I am a never-married myself but my thoughts regarding that video is that you should do intermittent fasting from YouTube for a year or so.

Also, Happy Aussie Day!

This dude sounds pretty perturbed.

As a somewhat long married, never divorced bro, this has not been my experience. Marriage has improved my life greatly, although part of that is undoubtedly the fact that I married well (down, Yugo!) and found someone from a similar upbringing with similar views on marital responsibility, fiscal management, and children, as well as similar long term personal and professional goals.

I think that it's perfectly fine for the MGTOWigentsia to forgo marriage if they're that afraid of divorce; a marriage seems pretty unlikely to be successful if that's the attitude one brings into it.

I was specifically referencing to the part comparing stay at home mom vs a wife who works, which admittedly gets lost among the obvious hate. Are there any advantages to the stay at home mom that this guy ignores to paint his picture of that arrangement? Do you think you would have been worse of if wifecore didnt work?

Evo,

We certainly wouldn't be able to live the same way we do now, but I think it can make sense for certain couples until the kids go to school (and beyond, if both sides desire - in some families, both the husband and the wife want the wife to stay home and manage the household). It was never really an issue for us, as my wife enjoys working and most likely wouldn't have been happy staying home.

In any good marriage, division of work and child care are discussions that happen long before the nuptials, and if any party wants to change the status quo, it's discussed. Marrying someone that, as this guy suggests, would unilaterally decide differently and dare their husband to call their bluff under threat of the Sword of Damocles/Divorce Rape (as your boy calls it) denotes a problem with your choice of a long term partner. If you're constantly plowing through shallow Instagram thots and avocado toast aficionados and then actually marry one, acting surprised when they get distracted by someone jiggling their keys and decide they want something else is kind of on you.

Avocado toast? That's a thing?


Yes that was my initial reaction as well.

Oh, you sweet, summer child. You've been gone a long time.

When did you leave, Evo? Sun dried tomato era?

I married a woman with an entirely different background and very different upbringing. 10th year of marriage now and many aspects of our relationship is better than ever, including sexual. We just compatible. Not much of a secret. So, so, soooooo ****ing glad I’m not single dealing with that mess out there. Not worth (even lots of) new pussy at all imo.

I left before pumpkin spice, that was a shock when I went home. Looking forward to playing that pokemon go game with everyone next time I'm back in the states.

I seem to vaguely remember someone on here logged pokemon go as exercise. I guess there is walking, so I suppose it's something. Still had a good lel, though.

I could be misremembering the whole thing, tho.

I do not feel like listening to an Aussie's hate-filled tirade ATM, but before wife's injuries it was the opposite; there was literally *no* advantage to her working other than additional money and ****loads of disadvantages. When we both worked it was 60 or more hours per week, never saw each other, were usually in bad moods when we did, and reached a bunch of stalemates on who would blink first and "do any housework". Each of us just mostly felt like we were living with a bad roommate. When she stopped working (hated her job and office, and we agreed on it) things improved tremendously. Home was clean, bills were taken care of, dinner was ready, we saw a lot more of each other even though I was still working as much (or more), and mostly we were much more agreeable when we did see each other. She found plenty to do like classes or a photography project and some creative work to do in her spare time. Things she'd never been able to get around to doing and was obviously enjoying her life (and spreading it to me) instead of it being a grind. Those were the salad days (granted I was making enough we could afford it). I only wished we'd done it sooner.

I haven't watched the video either, but I think that if everyone followed the advice, "Don't get married", aggregate happiness would improve.

I think that for most people it just doesn't turn out well and there is no reason you can't have a committed relationship without it. Having said that, it's definitely possible that it works for some people. It seems to be working great for me so far. And Monte. And plenty of others. So, it's certainly possible to turn marriage into huge benefit. It's just that a lot of the time it doesn't work that way. And sometimes it is completely devastating. So as far as generic advice is concerned, "Never get married" is probably pretty good.

It's kind of like the generic advice of "Don't gamble". If everyone followed that advice, then on balance, everyone would probably better off. Now some people can do it responsibly and achieve entertainment at a reasonable cost. Others can do it even better and make a living or get rich from it. But for most people it's just a bad idea.

As far as the stay at home thing is concerned, there are tons of advantages with small kids. It's a massive benefit. I guess at some point I'll watch the video and see what this guy is going on about on that issue.

EDIT: Ok, so I watched the video. I guess the problem that I have is that he just glossed over the meat. He references all of these studies that show kids with working moms do as well as with stay at home moms. In my personal situation I can't see how that would possibly be true, but I guess I'd have to look at those studies to see exactly what they're talking about.

The hate is definitely strong in that dude. However, I don't really disagree a ton with much of what he said. That is why despite being happily married myself, I think the generic advice of never getting married is sound.

Wow, Melk is a card carrying MGTOW and theredpill-adjacent virulently misogynistic anti-feminist thoughtcriminal. Sad!

Coulda been. The took away the card when the found out I was married.

On a serious note, I think it's perfectly possible to be anti-marriage without being anti-women. I have a couple of acquaintances who are single, wealthy professional women in their late 40s-early 50s. They're probably even more anti-marriage than Emoken.

Melk,

I'm not trying to tell you your business or anything, but talking about your rich side pieces when you're this concerned about Divorce Rape doesn't seem like optimal husbanding strategy.

Not worried about divorce rape, though I do find the term quite amusing. That's another reason I can't get the damn card.

Moreover, they're definitely not side piece material, primarily because they're both in LTRs. So, no worries there. I do appreciate you looking out for me though. That's our Monte. Always looking out for his fellow H&Fers.

Its literally one data point, but the "best" marriage ive witnessed was my aunt and her 2nd husband. they dated for 17 years before marrying and her kids from first marriage already had their careers going. afaik they were late 40s or early 50s on the wedding day and both worked and made a lot of money.

Also theres a big difference between anti marriage and anti ridiculous divorce courts. Even as a codified second class citizen in China, divorce law Is more fair than western countries.

I think you're kind of splitting hairs here. The dude in your video covered it also. What the exact divorce laws are kind of defines what marriage is. So, while I get what you're saying, it's a little impractical to try to separate the two. But I guess you could do it as some sort of theoretical exercise.

...right up until you guys split 10 years later and she's left with nothing but the means to get a minimum wage job. Ooops, joke's on her!


Listening to USAnians talk about marriage and divorce is really weird. Particularly the way so many strictly separate long-term relationships and marriage. Is this only because of divorce/tax/other idiot laws? Otherwise except the ring on the finger - what's really the difference if you're a couple with (or without) kid(s), jointly owned house, finances etc, assuming you're not idiots who haven't put everything in order otherwise?


I have a feeling USA#1 is worse than most Euro countries wrt divorce law, but then again iknownothingjonsnow.gif.