It is weird to me that so many conservative-minded people spend so much time thinking about transgendered folk.

I spend a lot of my time thinking about boobs.

Conservatives from USA#1 have very consistent and steadfast principles in regard to Personal Responsibility. They strongly oppose bureaucrats and nosey do-gooders intervening in private business and personal affairs, and especially with regard to how parents choose to raise their own children. Oh wait...

I can't believe it but I think I might actually give GOMAD or 1/2 GOMAD another run. I'm pretty much stuck on weight gain at around 100-102kg morning AM fasted weight. I really shouldn't trash talk rip as much as I do because actually SS+GOMAD worked very well for me even if it failed for a lot of people on this forum. But I was 21 years old and doing a **** load of cardio bicycling/walking and was coming fresh off a lot of high school sports and was ectomorphic. The program was kinda designed for a trainee with this profile, even if it's a terrible idea for a guy in his 30s with an office job who hasn't done a sport for a decade and has a very sedentary lifestyle and less ectomorphic predispostion. I also think the diet would work better with another higher volume program. That's probably the biggest issue with Rip's programming... adding weight in that intermediate phase often just results in intensity levels that are too high and it reuslts in a lot of the tension not being on the muscle you're training and the trainee using lots of other methods to get the weight up instead (leverages, getting fat, using alternative muscle groups, utilizing more elastic tension, etc). I think if you got a 19 year old kid on a BBing split+gomad, yeah he'd probably get results almost as good as 500mg test but without a sizable surplus. Obviously the gomad natty would have worse body comp at the end, but they'd probably add similar amounts of LBM tbh.

It should be interesting doing 1/2 gomad as an enhanced bber with a moderate to high physical activity level. Obviously there will be no whole milk, 1% or skim because I like to keep dietary fats in my solid meals not in my liquid ones. I think he might also be right about dairy and IGF too. OBviously if you're gonna drink 2L of milk per day, keep fiber very high or you'll have a very bad time. But I already supplement with fiber and have very high fruit and moderate veggie intake.

heh. that group I disagree with is never internally consistent like my group is hehehe

Any info on why N1H disappeared? Can loco share some top secret info?

MS,

It is quite the kek. Just wait till they find out how the exceptions to 12 weeks for abortion actually work! Or that the rest of the world has strong ID and requires it for voting.

I think the Ameritard view of Yurop is v amusing.

Or wait till they find out the Ukrainian parliament has a self-avowed neo-Nazi.

Guy,

SS is not an intermediate program. Even for the tail end of the beginner stage, there are multiple changes that are recommended. And IIRC he now has better guidelines for how to determine you should move on (2 squat resets without gains? Maybe I'm making that up. Not gonna bother researching Rippletoad programming).

I think a lot of your ranting is based around extremely common mistakes that are made. Milk is just cheap and full of calories for poor people. You could just as easily inhale chicken fried rice or any combo of high protein/caloric surplus, which as you astutely mention, might not be the same for everyone. Also, 30y old office workers are likely in a surplus anyway and don't need 3k more a day.

Is there any research that super excess calorie consumption is superior to small surplus, for muscle gain??

Doubt it. Human body tends to be efficient.

So all the gains are coming from fake lbm and just being bigger.

In conclusion, GOMAD is fake.

Adequate protein is probably the only big rock anybody ever has to worry about. And of course, up da dose.

I mean look at Liver King's diet. I rest my case. 200g of daily maple syrup drizzled on his protein. Only $11000 per month in PEDs.

It must be the diet.

Well, let's not forget to tell them that in a lot of countries, the govt makes sure their citizens have their compulsory ID and the citizens are all automatically registered to vote. Methinks your standard GOP congresscritter ain't going for that despite their stated love for voter ID.

loco,

You post a lot of stupid things that are wrapped in the guise of not being very stupid, but this one is really nefarious.

We can't estimate actual caloric expenditure better than +/-% 20% or so with deductive measures. So that kind of study you mention wouldn't be able to have statistical significance and is kind of asinine to ask for, and belies a fundamental misunderstanding of how science actually works. Aside from the fact you're asking for a muscle growth study which is like 20 dudes in two groups doing leg press, except now we're LARPing 1 group can magically eat 100 caloric surplus and another 500 (or whatever you think) for a 8 week test.

That totally seems applicable to what happens in reality. Hope we're accurately tracking fecal caloric loss as well, cause we wanna make sure someone didn't get the poopies and go into a deficit.

Anyway, this straw man is the weirdest **** ever.

That isn't the half of it. Normie taxes are generally <15min, you centralize medical records, and then with all that centralized information we can allocate you need based aid pretty effortlessly instead of having giant percentages of program budget to "advertising".

Think of all the welfare queens when poor kids parents get money that is geared for feeding them without having to see a poster, find out where to sign up, actually sign up, and wait for the processing.

Get me a fainting couch.

yeah pretty much. I personally can't complain. It worked really well for me and I became big and muscular even if I could have optimized some things better for the "immediately post-SS" period. Incorporating high rep sets on big lifts and generally lowering intensity while raising volume is what really worked well for me and broke me through that 275x5x3 plateau I was at for like half a year.

Same program but 5x5 squats, 5x3 deadlifts, 5x5 pressing motions, 5x5 rows worked amazingly well for females that I've trained with slight deficit/maintenance. IDK how it would work for men tho.

Another banger from Justin Harris. The "2 versions of bodybuilding" talk is fascinating.

It doesn't have to be daily you donk. Just every week. It can even be monthly. Mega bulkers vs lean massers. Lean massers can even be at maintenance if they fat enough. I bet we don't see a difference or it's worth peanuts.

Yeah, I wouldn't quibble about these changes except the DL issues, since women can generally lift at a higher intensity with lower CNS burnout.

I prefer alternating the DL/Pullup/Row in some fashion, but these are all relatively small changes. We're discussing minor changes in the 3-9m age of lifters going into maybe 2-3y of lifting.

Granted a lot of these are reasonably novel changes that are now common, but weren't when rippletoad started espousing SS+GOMAD initially, and the average age of people posting here for advice was substantially younger.

Anyway, lotta ways to skin it and quibbling over minor issues is just mental masturbation. A lot easier for n00bs without a coach to just read the book and do the stuff it says, with maybe a blog post if they have an old copy.

When you rant about science, but don't even know the science and don't want to admit it. Just infinite cope.

Anyone see The Northman? I think it came out about 1.5 years ago. It's a really great movie. Good lessons about how to not be emo. Amazing soundtrack too.



I'm sure Chinese people would both not get and also revile this movie.

Dave McLeod, an elite Scottish climber, ate only Macdonald's burgers for two months. (Patty only, without the buns.)

It's an interesting video, albeit a bit verbose:

I'm sure eating burger patties will fix mental health.

The brief summary of that video


calorie deficit with McDonald's only meat leads to no change in most blood markers. Also lead to weight loss (color me shocked).


If you gonna try this, make sure to check your ldl (or better yet apob). This guy lost weight and his still went up. No big deal at 127 but he also exercises a bunch. In other individuals, all that saturated fat could cause your LDL to blow up.

If i were that guy, I would get on a statin. 127 ldl not good enough.

Anyways carnivores are annoying. Sure if you are lean and it doesn't blow up your ldl, it's fine. But I am pretty sure it's gonna blow up plenty of folks Ldl.

80 minutes for a standard clickbait nonsense video topic. No way I'm watching that whole thing. Cliffs?

loco literally summarized it just above you asking.

I got my sister Dr Attia's book without reading it, just going off some comments and reputation.

It's disappointing to see him peddling nonsense and fear mongering with weight loss drugs such as Ozempic.

He went on Megyn Kelly's show and now the crazy right is pointing out to everyone that weight loss on Ozempic is mainly muscle mass.



Sigh

Idiots. Yes a calorie deficit with no exercise causes more muscle loss. Lift your weights bro. Or do you really think Ozempic is eating your muscle?

Sigh again.

Attia power rating down.

hahahaha

People are so aversive to lifting it's kind of amazing. The "I'm gonna become icky and gross with muscles like ronnie coleman" psychological bias.

I'm sure this will stir up no controversy or strong opinions.


I actually don't look for anything covid or vaccine related, but I am a huge Robert Breedlove fanboi. Is anyone else? So much internet crypto content is herp derping about prices all day but Robert goes considerably philosophical and deep. I found him hard to get into at first like "bro put down the bong plz" but later on I found his content really engaging even if I don't subscribe to the ideological bitcoin maxi extermism. I watched this but it wasn't as interesting to me as his other videos. Maybe you guys who are super into covid and vaccine stuff might like it or hate it idk. still kinda lol Australia tho

One other thing that I like Breedlove for is that he is good counterevidence against the "looks are everything" despair worldview I sometimes fall into. Here we have an ultra gigachad and he is not very popular despite the ultra good looks because he is not neurotypical and speaks long compound sentences with complex grammatical structures about fairly dense topics that don't appeal to most people. Meanwhile a total ugly ****** podcaster like Tom Bileyu can be cringey, arrogant, lacking in interview skills, and ugly and still attain 3 mill subscribers by just being relatable to the everyman while poor Robert is barely scraping 100k. Maybe 1 mill of those are hate-watchers but probably not tbh. The Halo and Failo effects are not at all insurmountable and this gives me some hoap. Or I'm just a himbo and sometimes I don't get the treatment I expect because of being too aspie which I'm also basically okay with.

I wanna write some non-erotic fanfic about some neurotypical 26 year old girl who goes on a tinder date with Robert going in with high expectations but leaves extremely disappointed after he talks her ear off about topics she finds irrelevant like carnivore diets and "Australian Economics or Whatever"

This is my way of trying to summon a Mysterious Stranger. He's been gone for a few months now but he always boomerangs backs.

I own the Attia book. I've not read it yet, there are a couple ahead of it in the queue.

I thought he advocated lifting, but I may be wrong. I may update here once I've read it.

Never heard a dude say this.

I've often heard women talk about being afraid they'll get too muscular-looking, tho.