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Old 06-27-2020, 09:29 AM   #7501
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Old 06-27-2020, 01:37 PM   #7502
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Does anyone here take Rapamycin?
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Old 06-27-2020, 02:29 PM   #7503
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Does anyone here take Rapamycin?
For what? You got a kidney transplant?
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Old 06-27-2020, 02:42 PM   #7504
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Anti-aging

(Warning it's long)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6814615/

Could turn out to be a COVID treatment
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7217787/
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:03 PM   #7505
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Anti-aging

(Warning it's long)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6814615/

Could turn out to be a COVID treatment
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7217787/
Based on the first article, I'd not take it on principle.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #7506
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I lifted some weights today ***Official H&F LC Thread******Official H&F LC Thread***
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:17 PM   #7507
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The smartest high profile bodybuilding coach being interviewed by a not so smart bodybuilding media figure.

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Old 06-30-2020, 12:38 AM   #7508
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Apparently a big wave of bans on anyone anti-sjw, including stefan molymeme. He's a retard for sure, but labelling him a white nationalist/supremacist or "far right" is ****ing lol.


Well trump, you didn't really do much for free speech or protecting the first amendment rights of the people who literally helped you get elected, so I can't say I have much sympathy.
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Old 06-30-2020, 01:01 AM   #7509
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Didn't realize the first ammendment was intended to apply to social media companies.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:36 AM   #7510
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I've always felt that private property rights are far more important than free speech rights. The advent of social media has reinforced that.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:48 AM   #7511
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Apparently a big wave of bans on anyone anti-sjw, including stefan molymeme. He's a retard for sure, but labelling him a white nationalist/supremacist or "far right" is ****ing lol.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...tefan-molyneux

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You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white] people…these [non-white] immigrants are going to fail...and they're not just going to fail a little, they are going to fail hard…they're not staying on welfare because they’re lazy...they’re doing what is economically the best option for them...you are importing a gene set that is incompatible with success in a free-market economy.”
Are you a ****ing moron or something?
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:56 AM   #7512
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Does he explicitly say white or did they just liberally editorialize? Are you/the splc implying that non-whites cannot be high IQ? I think Stefan himself says he welcomes high IQ non whites of any race. In several of his sit-downs he frequently references the fact that east asians have higher average IQs than whites. Could you call him an IQ supremacist? sure I guess...


You guys are all idiots if you think free speech should not apply on social media platforms who have a monopoly on modern discourse. These are the new public square. And furthermore, wgaf if somebody is a virulent racist advocating what the SPLC says molymeme is advocating? That's still not a direct call to violence and is still protected under the first amendment. I'm a non white and am not remotely offended by the above or anything else said by jared taylor, richard spencer, or david duke. It's a bunch of low t beta white men virtue signalling cucks with this horseshit trying to shut people up. Talk away until you start actively threatening people!

The only thing "offensive" about stefan molyneux is him genuinely believing he has any credibility as a philosophy academic when he is routinely eviscerated in debates by philosophy youtubers with undergraduate degrees.

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Old 06-30-2020, 03:05 AM   #7513
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Does he explicitly say white or did they just liberally editorialize? Are you/the splc implying that non-whites cannot be high IQ? I think Stefan himself says he welcomes high IQ non whites of any race. In several of his sit-downs he frequently references the fact that east asians have higher IQs than whites. Could you call him an IQ supremacist? sure I guess...


You guys are all idiots if you think free speech should not apply on social media platforms who have a monopoly on modern discourse. These are the new public square. And furthermore, wgaf if somebody is a virulent racist advocating what the SPLC says molymeme is advocating? That's still not a direct call to violence and is still protected under the first amendment. I'm a non white and am not remotely offended by the desire of some white supremacists to have their own exclusive communities tbh. Talk away until you start actively threatening people!
This sentence gives off the "hey guys, I have a black friend so I cannot be racist" vibe. WGAF what your colour is, it is irrelevant. You can be non white and racist. The guy you linked seems like a pretty clear cut racist. I would not want him competing in anything I owned. Good ban.

A couple of minutes of googling and he's said plenty of stuff where it's clear he is a racist. He is probably sugar coating it so he doesn't get banned from youtube or whatever (too late). If he posted unedited thoughts on what he was thinking, clear racist. Good ban.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:05 AM   #7514
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Moron, I haven't expressed an opinion on banning him. I'm talking about your moronic statement that "labelling him far right is lol." That would be about the kindest label he could receive. I'd label him a bit more harshly: complete racist sack of ****.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:07 AM   #7515
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You have clearly lobotomized yourself. You are the dumbest and worst poster to ever be here.

vafongool, arjun13 is a good poster and actually lifts/logs.

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Old 06-30-2020, 03:11 AM   #7516
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Although, I freely admit that I've been responsible for more than my share of politics derails, I'd like the record to reflect that this one is not on me.

Having said that, please carry on. I ****ing love this ****. We just need a few Kelhus hot takes to make it complete. I'm kind of busy now, but maybe I'll join the fun later.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:12 AM   #7517
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This sentence gives off the "hey guys, I have a black friend so I cannot be racist" vibe. WGAF what your colour is, it is irrelevant. You can be non white and racist. The guy you linked seems like a pretty clear cut racist. I would not want him competing in anything I owned. Good ban.

A couple of minutes of googling and he's said plenty of stuff where it's clear he is a racist. He is probably sugar coating it so he doesn't get banned from youtube or whatever (too late). If he posted unedited thoughts on what he was thinking, clear racist. Good ban.
Ban somebody for being racist? For thoughts they are thinking and not expressing? For sugar coating "what they really think"? That's not how the first amendment works. Anything short of a call to violence is permissible whether you like it or not and for better or worse, most modern communication is on a tiny amount of extremely large social media platforms routinely guilty of election meddling. Censoring unpopular thought that is not overtly causing violence is very dangerous, especially when what is unpopular thought is rapidly shifting as it is. Has thought crime and censorship of this kind EVER made a society better off? Bad ideas need to be out there and visible precisely so that they can be debunked and argued against to be defeated instead of just sweeping them under the rug to try to "protect people". I mean I'd argue even Jared Taylor is not really a racist, but David Duke/Richard Spencer yeah they're pretty much racists and I think they'd even admit that. Even still, that is just not enough to ban them unless they are actively advocating violence. ****ing Richard Spencer debunks himself.

And there is literally nothing racist about pointing out that average IQs vary across ethnic groups and that this explains some portion of disparate outcomes. This is not at all incompatible with the idea that systematic discrimination explains part of it as well. But it seems anything shy of complete compliance to the woke religion that all inequality of outcome is the result of pernicious racism is now heresy.

I believe he'd already long been demonetized, but I can see why it'd be perfectly valid for these platforms to demonetize content they subjectively find offensive.

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Old 06-30-2020, 03:13 AM   #7518
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I'd try to figure out how to get those steroids to help pump up that clearly atrophied brain of yours. You clearly aren't fit for Western culture.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:17 AM   #7519
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Ban somebody for being racist? For thoughts they are thinking and not expressing? For sugar coating "what they really think"? That's not how the first amendment works. Anything short of a call to violence is permissible whether you like it or not and for better or worse, most modern communication is on a tiny amount of extremely large social media platforms routinely guilty of election meddling. Censoring unpopular thought that is not overtly causing violence is very dangerous, especially when what is unpopular thought is rapidly shifting as it is. Has thought crime and censorship of this kind EVER made a society better off? Bad ideas need to be out there and visible precisely so that they can be debunked and argued against to be defeated instead of just sweeping them under the rug to try to "protect people".

And there is literally nothing racist about pointing out that average IQs
vary across ethnic groups and that this explains some portion of disparate outcomes. This is not at all incompatible with the idea that systematic discrimination explains part of it as well. But it seems anything shy of complete compliance to the woke religion that all inequality of outcome is the result of pernicious racism is now heresy.

I believe he'd already long been demonetized, but I can see why it'd be perfectly valid for these platforms to demonetize content they subjectively find offensive.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:17 AM   #7520
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Does he explicitly say white or did they just liberally editorialize? Are you/the splc implying that non-whites cannot be high IQ? I think Stefan himself says he welcomes high IQ non whites of any race. In several of his sit-downs he frequently references the fact that east asians have higher average IQs than whites. Could you call him an IQ supremacist? sure I guess...


You guys are all idiots if you think free speech should not apply on social media platforms who have a monopoly on modern discourse. These are the new public square. And furthermore, wgaf if somebody is a virulent racist advocating what the SPLC says molymeme is advocating? That's still not a direct call to violence and is still protected under the first amendment. I'm a non white and am not remotely offended by the above or anything else said by jared taylor, richard spencer, or david duke. It's a bunch of low t beta white men virtue signalling cucks with this horseshit trying to shut people up. Talk away until you start actively threatening people!

The only thing "offensive" about stefan molyneux is him genuinely believing he has any credibility as a philosophy academic when he is routinely eviscerated in debates by philosophy youtubers with undergraduate degrees.
I don't use any of the major social media platforms and I can talk to lots of people just fine. Your assertion that there's a monopoly on discourse is laughably false, and even if we assume it was true for the sake of argument, it still doesn't make a good enough case for throwing private property rights out the window. Social media is not "the new public square." They are private property and by definition are not public squares. It's a collection of individuals choosing to step onto someone else's private property to interact. If that bothers you, don't use it.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:23 AM   #7521
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How is that even an insult? Have you even read the book?

ETHNIC GROUPS ARE DIFFERENT. IQ DOES NOT MEASURE ALL ASPECTS OF INTELLIGENCE, BUT DOES HAVE PREDICTIVE POWER IN CRIMINALITY, EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, AND LIFETIME EARNINGS. AVERAGE IQS VARY ACROSS RACIAL GROUPS. EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY UNDER THE LAW REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC GROUP.

None of the above is racist.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:24 AM   #7522
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Ban somebody for being racist? For thoughts they are thinking and not expressing? For sugar coating "what they really think"? That's not how the first amendment works. Anything short of a call to violence is permissible whether you like it or not and for better or worse
Sure, I agree with this and most of what you said. Free speech is vital and even important. But why is talking about what's legal or not relevant here? An organization doesn't want a person to be a part of them when they are let's say 90% sure he is a white supremacist. That just seems like the free market talking. I would definitely not allow him anywhere near me.

It seems similar to the whole Greg Glassman incident. He is certainly allowed to say what he wants, there's no legal ramification. But the people didn't like it and voted with their wallets and he was forced to sell his company or watch his company lose a lot of revenue.

I would 100% ban somebody for being racist and no, I would not give them the benefit of the doubt. Even in that quote where the media inserted white, he does call immigrants lazy, which certainly is racist. And that is just one quote.
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Old 06-30-2020, 03:29 AM   #7523
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I don't use any of the major social media platforms and I can talk to lots of people just fine. Your assertion that there's a monopoly on discourse is laughably false, and even if we assume it was true for the sake of argument, it still doesn't make a good enough case for throwing private property rights out the window. Social media is not "the new public square." They are private property and by definition are not public squares. It's a collection of individuals choosing to step onto someone else's private property to interact. If that bothers you, don't use it.
You aren't a high profile "philosophy show", so of course you're able to talk to a lot of people. But not 800k people.

This argument I think is at least intellectually consistent and is a lot better than "people I don't like shouldn't be able to express themselves b/c it's h8", however. But I don't think there's nearly as much consensus as you suggest about whether or not these platforms are truly not the new public square. In assessing whether or not these are monopolies, we'll see what happens with parler. I remember there was some other alternative platform that was quickly crushed, but can't remember the name.
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How is that even an insult? Have you even read the book?

ETHNIC GROUPS ARE DIFFERENT. IQ DOES NOT MEASURE ALL ASPECTS OF INTELLIGENCE, BUT DOES HAVE PREDICTIVE POWER IN CRIMINALITY, EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, AND LIFETIME EARNINGS. AVERAGE IQS VARY ACROSS RACIAL GROUPS. EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUALLY UNDER THE LAW REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC GROUP.

None of the above is racist.
Interesting! So blacks have less money and are more likely to be incarcerated because of their low iq's. Yep, NOTHING RACIST HERE!!!

Dumbass!
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You aren't a high profile "philosophy show", so of course you're able to talk to a lot of people. But not 800k people.

This argument I think is at least intellectually consistent and is a lot better than "people I don't like shouldn't be able to express themselves b/c it's h8", however. But I don't think there's nearly as much consensus as you suggest about whether or not these platforms are truly not the new public square. In assessing whether or not these are monopolies, we'll see what happens with parler. I remember there was some other alternative platform that was quickly crushed, but can't remember the name.
There's lots of alternatives for every social media platform. Off the top of my head I know of bitchute and mastadon. I'm sure there's tons of others but I don't care enough to seek them out. It appears to be relatively easy to build social media platforms. It's not like anyone has ever or ever will need to depend on youtube to watch videos online or depend on twitter for single sentence blog posts. Anyone can build that, it's up to individuals which service they want to use.

The point is, if you don't like the way a company moderates their platform, the best thing to do is to stop going onto that company's platform and switch to a competitor. You know, the way every other free market business works. If you think a better solution is crying to the government about how twitter is banning too many people, I can gaurantee that will not end the way you hoped, and would probably make things worse.
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