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07-13-2019 , 08:45 PM
Cit,

You're prb at a Lambdas class. Either figuring out how to build better event driven triggers, or maybe that mom breathing thing.

You did have a meaningful stake in the posting I made before where we corresponded. k.
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07-13-2019 , 08:45 PM
Wait, there's a Mrs. Thremp? Has this been a long-standing thing, or is it recent? If the latter, congrats (and I'm not trolling).

I was gonna say this was an AIDS derail, but that revelation at least downgrades it to something more easily treatable like syphilis.

Man, am I really out of the loop. I must not spend nearly as much time around here as I thought.
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07-13-2019 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Renton555
I don't see how your anecdote refutes anything I said. The experience of murder is objective. Somebody definitely died, everyone agrees on that. The experience of being raped can be and often is subjective. It's an interpretation on the part of the victim and not the black and white thing that murder is. Its an issue that has to be approached with nuance because the crime itself is nuanced.

Consider the fine line that must be drawn between consensual rough sex and rape and try to find an analogue to any other serious violent crime.
It doesn’t refute the small slice of potential confusion you want to focus on as if it is the bulk of rape and assault cases. It does refute that society deems rape worse than murder, and betrays that just uttering the word ruins men’s lives on a regular basis both things you asserted. Like, if you accept the evidence as true in my example this was a rape on video, called a rape by the rapist, and a judge said it wasn’t “real rape” because there was only one dude and no gun. That’s a problem that is documented. But the innocent confused dude getting destroyed issue, I’m not saying it is non-existent but, well the best example we have of that ITT is DM’s totally great story about a buddy who says like one time some girl said something once and didn’t press charges or anything or report it or nothing and there were no repercussions cept now he has to tell the story about it happened to him, dude. But we can all imagine, like what if she had pressed charges and followed through and WON the case and he was still in jail to this day!!1! So it’s important to remember, men are getting ****ed over y’all.

I mean the idiot even brought up Jussi which was not a rape case or even pertinent other than a goal for his team because it’s just knee-jerk with these idiots. If that incident had not happened I guess we would be hearing about duke lacrosse from 13 years ago.

I guess what I am asking you, Renton, is since this is an issue that requires attention maybe you can give me some examples of cases where a dude thought he was just being assertive and his life got ruined.

I mean aside from the dude who is “friends” with DM cuz that does sound ****ing cruel and unusual, but sounds unrelated.
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07-13-2019 , 09:04 PM
Melk,

She is an ambiguous concept. Not legally binding as you may imagine. But she may join the fray of overpriced rock holders.

Despite the fact that many of you likely know people who personally know me. I don't think that matters to mine or any other person's views. Maybe I'm a weirdo and think ****ty views should be viewed as such. I'm just another middle age bro who is not really yoked, kinda sucks at everything, and posting on the internet. Anything beyond that is on someone else.
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07-13-2019 , 09:09 PM
Damn... I was just starting to feel more okay with feminism a week ago, then I remembered that only saying "yeah this looks like it's probably legitimate rape this time, but let's see what our justice system says. There have been a slew of fake accusations against high profile men in the last 2 or 3 years" is tantamount to defending accused rapists every single time in 2019. Not only that, but it will get guys on the internet wondering if you, too, are a rapist.
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07-13-2019 , 09:10 PM
JT,

You are a POS.

Just clear so there is no other context.

Explain to me how you want to deny people due process.

I guess I am a POS for advancing civil rights for black men.

You do you.
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07-13-2019 , 09:10 PM
DM,

You are not obese. Such an accomplishment should not be overlooked.
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07-13-2019 , 09:15 PM
Emo,

That is super dark. Waman are great. Doesn't mean that everyone can have civil rigths.

Like weird border fence hoppers. who are all criminals.
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07-13-2019 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
+1

Reading Evoken and jdock defend an alleged rapist every single time makes me wonder who they have raped.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Good lord. Okay, I’m a SJW fighting for the rape victims. These guys are SJW fighting for the accused rapists.
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Married+a figure division girl (media calls all female competitors "bodybuilders" despite no female bodybuilding for 3 or 4 years now)+reported the crime immediately after it happened adds up to it looking more like a real sexual assault. Now I don't think he beat her up and violently assaulted her or anything, but probably assumed he had consent when he clearly did not and didn't listen to the first half a dozen "nos", which is still clearly rape.


If she was a single bikini division 24 year old competitor who worked as a stripper+escort and reported it 4 months later, I'd assume she's lying out of her old sleezeball gaped *******.

Looks more and more legit, but the man still deserves a fair trial before his career is torn to pieces. I kind of wonder if the IFBB would be as harsh if it wasn't a case of infidelity since he's marketted so much as a "family man". They kind of had to since there are so many skeletons in their closets with lots of G4P, high level judges trading placings for sexual favors, rec drugs, and of course steroids.

Phone call with the husband right after being sexually assaulted/raped by Mr. Olympia must have been deeply uncomfortable. "Yeah.. Jed.... honey.. I was in the hotel room, alone, with my mentor and he uhh..." There were also rumors dating back to 2013-2014 long before he won that he was into the bull/cuckold thing and liked to bang married (white) women. Also some say he had already been estranged from his wife long before the incident and they just trotted her and their kid out for appearances during the Mr. O, so if that's the case he may be not guilty of rape or infidelity and still gets his career wrreecckked.

Still haven't heard a statement from him which makes it look more and more damning. Leaning more toward guilty, will be curious to see how it plays out. I will try to refrain from hot takes about gender to avoid triggering soulman further than I already have by suggesting the lifestyle, age, career, previous life decisions, and demeanor of a woman greatly influences her probability of making false rape accusations.
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07-13-2019 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Deeply Miserable
Wew lad. You making a strong effort to unseat NukeLOL as the queen **** poster.
Two radically different ****s.

Let him own that ****, leave my corner of (cuckoo) theories on things alone!!!
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07-13-2019 , 09:28 PM
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Melk,

She is an ambiguous concept. Not legally binding as you may imagine. But she may join the fray of overpriced rock holders.
Congrats, nonetheless. The legal stuff really is of lesser importance, imo.
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07-13-2019 , 09:31 PM
Since JT's weirdly obsessed with individual antecdotes:

https://world.wng.org/2019/03/false_...s_ruined_lives
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07-13-2019 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
Since JT's weirdly obsessed with individual antecdotes:

https://world.wng.org/2019/03/false_...s_ruined_lives

*Published by WORLD magazine.

World (often stylized in all-caps as WORLD) is a biweekly[1] Christian news magazine, published in the United States by God's World Publications, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization based in Asheville, North Carolina.[2] World's declared perspective is one of Christian evangelical Protestantism.[3][4]
Just wanted to give some frame of reference. I'm sure everyone will use that information in the way that's most convenient to their viewpoint.

Carry on.
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07-13-2019 , 10:26 PM
DM,

The problem with pretending you don’t understand what someone wrote because you can’t argue against what they said is that other people can read. So save the (again, like D minus grade level at best, smh) gaslighting for your loved ones, fella, till you drive them all away.

Evo,

I don’t have energy to type out a remedial version of what I addressed to you, but it is not that you are calling the woman in this case a liar. It is the actual things I said about the actual things you said. You can read those things, or just post a Shiite article long on conjecture and short on contemporary examples that mostly talks about a guy who was accused and didn’t have his life ruined as if what is being contended is that false accusations never happen. When you find the guy who says that you’ll be ready for him (or hopefully her!) at least.
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07-13-2019 , 10:52 PM
I am kinda glad for Johnny that DM and Renton came around so he will have an actual foil to argue against. It can't be as much fun when you have to make up what other people are saying, so you can dunk on their made up positions.

Melkerson,

If you ever wondered what you were missing not going to the new politics forum, it is a lot of this unfortunately. A lot of woke justice warriors making up positions for you and then telling you that you are racist, sexist, transphobic, etc. because of said made up positions.
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07-13-2019 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Wait. What? So taking issue with making the claim that if a woman doesn’t report right away, or if she was a stripper, or if the accused has a lot to lose you should suspect they are probably lying in the face of evidence contrary to that is marginalizing falsely accused men?

Explain it to me like I’m not someone who believes that male/female relationships are best analyzed as solely transactional.
Well... alright. It's more likely to be real if reported immediately afterword because there is no premeditation on what could or could not be gained by accusing the man. Furthermore, assuming it was consensual, she would certainly not report it right afterword, but a lot can happen between two people in fourth months, which is simply the arbitrary time frame I used as an example. Within that time, some kind of conflict between them may have fomented and driven her to do a false accusation for the sake of revenge, which is of course one of the primary motivations for making a false claim.

If she were a stripper/escort, we'd have a much higher probability of her having a very neurotic personality type, as this profession unfortunately tends to draw from the population of more crazy people in general. This type of personality drawn into the profession is more likely to do something wild and destructive like making a false accusation.

Finally, I specifically mentioned a bikini girl as being more likely to be a false accuser than a figure girl. Although I realize most people are not versed in bbing terminology, it's very unlikely that an NPC bikini competitor would have men's open ifbb bodybuilding professional as a "mentor" due to the very differing demands of the two sports (though some guys do specialize in coaching bikini girls, but I digress...), whereas figure girls actually need some muscle to compete and not just a skinny physique and some bolt ons and makeup, so it would make sense she truly did have him as a mentor and not as an extramarital partner who she called a mentor to lend herself credibility. Additionally, most bikini girls barely give a **** about fitness or bodybuilding and really just want attention, and making a false rape claim against a high profile man will most definitely get you attention.

You are clearly insane and I have no idea why I bothered to type that out for you. We literally agree he is probably a rapist, but you dislike my justifications for speculating his guilt because it does not paint the female of the human species as some angelic and morally superior agents barely capable of evil, which is weird and self hating on your part.
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07-13-2019 , 11:02 PM
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I am kinda glad for Johnny that DM and Renton came around so he will have an actual foil to argue against. It can't be as much fun when you have to make up what other people are saying, so you can dunk on their made up positions.

Melkerson,

If you ever wondered what you were missing not going to the new politics forum, it is a lot of this unfortunately. A lot of woke justice warriors making up positions for you and then telling you that you are racist, sexist, transphobic, etc. because of said made up positions.
Honestly sounds a lot like the old politics forum.
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07-13-2019 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus999
I am kinda glad for Johnny that DM and Renton came around so he will have an actual foil to argue against. It can't be as much fun when you have to make up what other people are saying, so you can dunk on their made up positions.

Melkerson,

If you ever wondered what you were missing not going to the new politics forum, it is a lot of this unfortunately. A lot of woke justice warriors making up positions for you and then telling you that you are racist, sexist, transphobic, etc. because of said made up positions.
Rough life you have invented for yourself there. As a bleeding heart I’m pretty concerned.

Go ahead and quote my post where I made something up about what you said.
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07-13-2019 , 11:08 PM
countdown until jt goes crying to somebody and kelhus/dm are banned...
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07-13-2019 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Rough life you have invented for yourself there. As a bleeding heart I’m pretty concerned.

Go ahead and quote my post where I made something up about what you said.
Well, I know you already went to exiled politics to virtue signal you were fighting the good fight against rape apologists in H&F (as I anticipated you would). I assume you were including me in the rape apologist group?
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07-13-2019 , 11:18 PM
Doubt you can count that long based on your reading comprehension. Much higher probability that I get banned. Jfc, you were crying about the response you imagined you were going to get before anyone said a single thing to you, and jdock just lamented the life of being bullied by people saying he is wrong about something online.

Talk about ****ing projection. This from the self proclaimed alphas, too.

ETA, jdock, does that count as a counterpoint in your world? Does that count as sjw harassment? Cry me a river.
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07-13-2019 , 11:20 PM
to sorta lighten things up, i'm just gonna leave this here

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07-13-2019 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
Damn... I was just starting to feel more okay with feminism a week ago, then I remembered that only saying "yeah this looks like it's probably legitimate rape this time, but let's see what our justice system says. There have been a slew of fake accusations against high profile men in the last 2 or 3 years" is tantamount to defending accused rapists every single time in 2019. Not only that, but it will get guys on the internet wondering if you, too, are a rapist.
Well, in fairness Johnny was probably just playing the odds here, since by his calculations most men that suggest some temperance on the internets are rapists themselves.
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07-13-2019 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Doubt you can count that long based on your reading comprehension. Much higher probability that I get banned. Jfc, you were crying about the response you imagined you were going to get before anyone said a single thing to you, and jdock just lamented the life of being bullied by people saying he is wrong about something online.

Talk about ****ing projection. This from the self proclaimed alphas, too.

ETA, jdock, does that count as a counterpoint in your world? Does that count as sjw harassment? Cry me a river.
Pretty sure jdock said (correctly, I believe) that he and Evo are card carrying, fedora tipping, door opening betas that are too timid to get out a proper "m'lady" at the object of their supremely gentlemanly politeness before being bear maced and then concussed by her boyfriend, Chad Thundercock, as she laughs at the presumption that they were worthy to breathe the same air.

Or at least that's what I remember reading.
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07-13-2019 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Doubt you can count that long based on your reading comprehension. Much higher probability that I get banned. Jfc, you were crying about the response you imagined you were going to get before anyone said a single thing to you, and jdock just lamented the life of being bullied by people saying he is wrong about something online.

Talk about ****ing projection. This from the self proclaimed alphas, too.

ETA, jdock, does that count as a counterpoint in your world? Does that count as sjw harassment? Cry me a river.
Melkerson, correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure I said the exact opposite.

What am I missing here? Is it backwards day today and no one told me?

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