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03-24-2019 , 03:51 PM
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03-24-2019 , 07:48 PM
All hail the prodigal son who has finally cometh back to where he belongs.
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03-25-2019 , 08:13 AM
Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Things just keep getting worse in creative ways and my main problem is not so much *acceptance* as it is keeping up with it. Today a caregiver finally starts and I'm hopeful it will allow me to get some breaks and, perish the idea, collect my thoughts.
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03-25-2019 , 10:36 AM
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Longwinded political musings within. I urge anyone who does not appreciate such musings to ignore post.

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Disclaimer: I didn’t come up with all these ideas myself. It is mostly stuff I read and synthesized together in my own way. So, if you think any particular point I am making is plagarization, you are probably right. Also, if you are thinking a particular point is patently absurd and had to have originated from me, you are also probably right.

Also, when reading this post keep in mind that IMO the central problem of all lifeforms, including **** sapiens, is propagation of the gene pool, at the individual and population level. And much of our behavior, both instinctual and learned, can only be properly understood when viewed through this framework.

Anyways, the current narrative making the rounds right now is that the United States (and pretty much every other society that has existed the last 10,000 years or so) is an oppressive patriarchy that elevates men and suppresses women; and this inherently unjust and inequitable system can and should be made right through coercion and political fiat, especially in the higher echelons of our hierarchies. And in doing so it will pave the way for an inclusive, equitable, progressive utopia where we all will get along and live happily ever after (or something to that effect).

Looking at human society from a naturalistic, deterministic perspective (and keeping in mind the basic paradigm) one could assume that if something exists pretty much universally (in this case “the patriarchy”) in a population or in this case an entire species for thousands of years there is probably a strongly selected for adaptive reason. Interestingly, I think dynamics of the online dating marketplace may elucidate how human sexual dynamics may explain how successful human societies pretty much independently came to similar social dynamics, e.g. “the patriarchy” for the last several thousand years.

Anyways, what the swipe right culture has taught us (that to be fair most intellectually honest people already intuitively knew) is that human females are much more selective than human males, which makes perfect sense as the costs of reproduction are so much higher for females than males; and they have historically been responsible for bearing the labor of child rearing for the entirety of mammalian evolution. To cut to the chase, statistics seem to tell us that all else being equal the vast majority of females are only attracted to the top 15% of males, whereas males are much, much, much less discerning.

This would suggest that as opposed to being monogamous, humans may “naturally” in fact be polygynous, much like chimpanzees (and many other mammalian species). And my understanding is that study of pre-historic cultures indicates that proto-humans may have mostly practiced a form of “harem polygyny.”

However, we could imagine that such a dynamic that may have evolved and seem to work well when populations existed in small isolated groups/clans on the plains of East Africa, would not necessarily work very well when a technological innovation changed the rules of the game; in this case the shift from hunter/gatherer to settled, agrarian societies.

Specifically, polygynous societies probably severely limited absolute population size (which would be needed for highly labor intensive agriculture) and also propagated too much inter-society violence (in this case males continually jockeying and fighting for the favor of the harem and access to reproductive rights).

Faced with such a dilemna, evolution of a culture of “enforced monogamy” whereby young females are basically coerced by societal norms “against their nature” to settle early in their reproductive life on a single mate (who would probably be below their attraction standards in a different milieu) would seem to solve this dilemma. Coercion into 1:1 monogamous relationships and the separation of men into the public spheres (mostly as workers) and women as stay at home child carers (which I am sure we can all accept raising multiple small human children at once in such a setting would be more than a full time job) would maximize population growth; and coercing women to mate equitably so most males had access to reproduction would decrease inter-clan tension and violence.

I should note that I don’t think it is appropriate to view this as men vs women battle of the sexes. More likely, it was men AND women cooperating (and in many cases making sacrifices) to create a societal structure adapted to thrive in agrarian societies and raise progeny and perpetuate the gene pool successfully.

Accepting this to be the case, one could definitely argue that recent technological innovations have allowed us to break the chains of this patriarchal structure. That being said, “the patriarchy” survived universally for thousands of years because it worked and was pro-adaptive, given nurture (the environment and technology of the times) and nature (our biologically constrained behavior/instincts).

Ironically, “the patriarchy” may have also been a force that flattened hierarchies and reduced inequity within societies (ie. by allowing all members of society to participate in reproduction and de-incentivizing intra-society competition). It is not clear that current liberal ideology as it pertains to re-fashioning male-female dynamics, although well meaning, will be simarly pro-adaptive or achieve the ends it purports to. And there is some indications it flat out will not. I don’t think it is an accident that there is so much divisiveness, depression and angst, especially among young people today. Obviously, Trump isn’t helping things, but I think he is more a sign of the times than a causal factor of all the current societal issues. I also am not sure that it is an accident that the more we “dismantle the patriarchy” and “liberate” woman and work towards equity and inclusiveness; the more real power disparity seems to be increasing, especially between the “haves” and “have nots,” and this increase in “class” disparity seems to transcend gender and race.

Anyways, just some of my thoughts. Thought a few of the old regs might enjoy this throwback rant if nothing else.

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03-25-2019 , 10:42 AM
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...I'm hopeful it will allow me to get some breaks and, perish the idea, collect my thoughts.
This is ultimately what every couple needs to varying degrees dependent upon each circumstance. And it often has nothing to do with how you feel about the other, its simply a "release" that is needed.

RE: the emotions....it is needed. I completely understand the rock mentality when it comes to a significant other and what they are going through. You find yourself saying things that you simply know aren't true, in the moment at least, in order to maintain their spirits.

I hope you can find that space to release.
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03-25-2019 , 11:08 AM
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Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Things just keep getting worse in creative ways and my main problem is not so much *acceptance* as it is keeping up with it. Today a caregiver finally starts and I'm hopeful it will allow me to get some breaks and, perish the idea, collect my thoughts.
Trust the professionals. Tough times ahead, but you will get through, both of you.
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03-25-2019 , 12:27 PM
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Chimps ****ing is pretty much the pinnacle of the zoo experience. The truth is the zoo can be a little underwhelming when you realize most of the animals are just going to lay around and do nothing the whole time.
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Another underrated attraction is otters. Secretly, one of the more entertaining species around.
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03-31-2019 , 11:25 AM
Keeping with the general theme of mysogyny, my son is in a 6-7 year old co-ed soccer league and a 6-8 year old co-ed basketball league and it seems empirically like this age range might be the threshold for indiscriminate coed sports.

There are obviously exceptions, but for the most part it seems like age 7-8 is where on average boys start to have an obvious advantage due to higher general size, athleticism and aggression.

Interestingly, in my small empirical sample the girls seem to hold their own way more in soccer than basketball. How much of this is due to natural versus environmental factors is not entirely clear. Due to the nature of the game, soccer seems more egalitarian; whereas basketball seems to be more about being an "alpha." Basically the guy/girl who is wired this way is going to be more aggressive, and want and demand the ball more, and is going to have it more, and this creates a positive feedback loop where they are going to more confident and improve skill wise more than the more passive players.
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03-31-2019 , 05:35 PM
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04-04-2019 , 04:01 PM
Question: Why do so many seemingly responsible, bright invidividuals spend so much time advising in N1H's thread? After it's apparent:
1. He's on a massive troll spree
2. Seriously in need of professional help (more likely the case....which isn't a bad thing IMO, unless someone doesn't seek out or act on professional mental health advice)

My tilt factor is pretty high to see so many people completely wasting their time with consistent reading and trying to provide helpful advice on a forum. I've given myself a ban after today of ever looking that thread again.
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04-04-2019 , 04:30 PM
Droopy,
I think it's
1) there's not as much going on overall itf these days compared to the days of yore, not saying individuals aren't making good progress, they are, just less volume overall
2) mly-thread type posters / non-hf goofballs
3) what we call in Chicago a "Gapers Block" - a traffic jam on the other side of the highway caused by everyone wanting to look at the burning trash pile after a crash
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04-04-2019 , 04:31 PM
Free JDOCK
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04-04-2019 , 04:37 PM
He done already been free-ed
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04-04-2019 , 05:13 PM
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Got very, very sick (eta: not like holliday's wife sick, just a bad virus) and restarted Escape From Dannemora. A bit slow. EV's job looks bad. Show is slightly more amusing now that I think back and think that he also essentially works there.

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04-04-2019 , 08:17 PM
droopy - also I think there are a fair amount of productive folks for whom internet forums can be a useful "rough draft" of fleshing out their ideas. Some folks who are harsh and biting toward N1 might, for instance, see how their words are perceived (esp by non-N1 posters & non-grunchers) and perhaps modify their approach, when, for instance, disciplining their children IRL.

Obviously that's not everyone...and as to why *that* thread instead of rough-drafting their ideas elsewhere, DT's #3 seems spot on.
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04-04-2019 , 08:26 PM
N1h's thread is entertaining in a very frustrating but addicting way.

Like that stupid old movie on tv you can't stop watching where the main character constantly makes all these really dumb moves and you find yourself yelling at the screen NO DON'T GO THERE YOU MORON WHY WOULD YOU GO IN THERE, WHO GOES IN THERE?! as if it would ever help at all.
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04-04-2019 , 10:40 PM
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Free JDOCK
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He done already been free-ed
Check that, banned again
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04-05-2019 , 02:42 AM
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Check that, banned again
Lol what happened?!
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04-05-2019 , 07:17 AM
Not sure, but the same mod that banned him the last time got him; my assumption is that he was banned for being a previously banned poster and that he piqued this dude's interest because he was posting in Augie's LVL MAGA adjacent politards thread/forum, but who knows.

I actually didn't realize he was banned when DT mentioned in the first time, just because there hadn't been any hand-wringing in the mod forum about him, so he didn't get double-tapped or anything.
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04-05-2019 , 09:25 AM
sigh
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04-05-2019 , 10:21 AM
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Not sure, but the same mod that banned him the last time got him; my assumption is that he was banned for being a previously banned poster and that he piqued this dude's interest because he was posting in Augie's LVL MAGA adjacent politards thread/forum, but who knows.

I actually didn't realize he was banned when DT mentioned in the first time, just because there hadn't been any hand-wringing in the mod forum about him, so he didn't get double-tapped or anything.
Yeah I was curious if there were mod rumblings but it seems like just politard jerking there as well. Fun site these days
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04-05-2019 , 10:24 AM
Ban BGP! Free JDock! Send Montecorp to Indiana!
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04-05-2019 , 10:39 AM
I'm going back there tomorrow!
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04-06-2019 , 11:47 AM
Whelp, things aren't going quite as well as last update. Wife's been in the hospital all week due to ever-worsening symptoms looking to head to rehab facility soon. Only bright side is this does give me a bit of a break, though a difficult one to relax during.

Thought I'd take the opportunity to finally watch 'Venom' (my favorite comic book character) and, my word, someone finally made a comic book movie even I can't finish. Watching that movie was probably the worst experience of my life.
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