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03-21-2018 , 12:14 PM
Anyone here known/experiences with intramuscular electrical stimulation/dry needling? I find different reviews of it online but not much large studies on it. My therapists wants to do this to me but I have no idea what it really is/if its proven to work.
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03-21-2018 , 12:31 PM
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I just reach a certain point where I can't go lower and I start to lose balance if I try, I don't really know how else to explain it.
Forward or backward? Are you going up on your toes or raising them up?

Try doing heel elevated squats with something that's no more than 1/2-1"
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03-21-2018 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Anyone here known/experiences with intramuscular electrical stimulation/dry needling? I find different reviews of it online but not much large studies on it. My therapists wants to do this to me but I have no idea what it really is/if its proven to work.
I had it done 1.5 years ago on my left shoulder. I instantly gained like 1.5-2" doing the hands behind back touch attempt.

It is a short lived thing though unless you keep at it and the exercises over a period of time.

Your muscles got tight for a reason. You can do short term fixes to remove restrictions, but it all comes right back unless you follow a protocol to "extend the life" of whatever gain you received from it.
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03-21-2018 , 12:50 PM
I have been having some knee tendon issues for a few years and he hopes that it will restart the healing proces or something.
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03-21-2018 , 01:08 PM
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Forward or backward? Are you going up on your toes or raising them up?

Try doing heel elevated squats with something that's no more than 1/2-1"
I typically fall forward, but I will fall on my butt if I try to push myself as far as I can (I did this when I lived in an apartment with really cushy carpet). I'm pretty good about keeping my toes flat to the floor, and pushing down with my heels.

I've done the elevated ones as well with plates. It definitely makes it easier to squat, but I never seemed to make any progress once the plates were gone. So, what do you think about adopting a wider than shoulder width stance? Is that a problem? I never really tried much, because I always read that shoulder width or less is what to aim for.
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03-21-2018 , 01:57 PM
I can't do a BW squat either, join the club. Worked a lot on it, never got significantly closer. Gave up

Squatting in WL shoes is doable though, no reason for you to do a bw squat first imo
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03-27-2018 , 11:01 PM
Random question, how many people here have over a 1000lb total for the power lifts? Tho my reference is at my weight, ~182lb right now, I was trying to add up what my lifts would need to be to get over 1000. I think I can get close

And who here has the highest total? Anyone know?
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03-28-2018 , 05:48 AM
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Random question, how many people here have over a 1000lb total for the power lifts? Tho my reference is at my weight, ~182lb right now, I was trying to add up what my lifts would need to be to get over 1000. I think I can get close

And who here has the highest total? Anyone know?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8...eboard-570302/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...=0&output=html
^a lot of the links in here have vids of the lifts
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03-28-2018 , 04:42 PM
I saw that but it doesn't look like it had been updated in 6 years.

Was trying to route my way to a 1k set and I think it'll have to be like 260 bench 400 do and 340 squat or something around that give or take 5-10 lbs.
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03-28-2018 , 04:57 PM
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I can't do a BW squat either, join the club. Worked a lot on it, never got significantly closer. Gave up

Squatting in WL shoes is doable though, no reason for you to do a bw squat first imo
I disagree, because from the perspective of long term mobility who gives a flying **** if you can squat 500lbs if you can't manage a decent third world squat hold without falling on your ass.
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03-28-2018 , 07:01 PM
could be anatomy, apparantly
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03-29-2018 , 12:44 AM
NukeLOL,

Don't troll the beginner thread.

kaby,

Pretty much. Sometimes no amount of magic rubbing will fix your problem. That doesn't mean that handwaving away the problem and giving it an EV-esque effort is appropriate. I never managed to figure out how to HBBS without hurting myself. Although you should be more self-aware and not derp around for years.
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03-29-2018 , 01:08 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22050133

Studies like this also present a practical problem in design since no one is actually going to drink a BCAA shake or sugar water. The practical substitution is an equivalent volume of whole food protein sources that are weight matched to BCAA. (Like whether you drink a protein shake or take a BCAA horse pill or gross liquid.) Given the small effect sizes and the fact its expensive and tastes like ****, I have never bothered to supplement these long term.

You see similar things with people advocating chiropractic "medicine" where there is an effect size that is positive, but the other option (actual medicine) is far superior. (IE leucine does provide strong signaling for MPS, but MPS can't occur without other amino acids as well so the idea that we can just pound leucine all day is silly at face value.)

But this is a pretty nuanced critique of study design and epistemology where many people want to make wild leaps that are not based in science and pure conjecture.


Beginner relevant stuff:

https://rippedbody.com/bcaa-vs-whey/

Smart people who do actual research on these subjects agree with the general view that BCAAs are not useful.

https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.11...VcNyR07g%3D%3D

If you have some desire to read about current recommendations for meal/protein timing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgSLYGUH...=thealanaragon

Shamelessly ripping my content. (Including lolling at things.)
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04-11-2018 , 09:25 PM
Would bcaa supplements add value for someone that was protein deficient from a carb heavy diet under a heavy cardio/endurance training load?

Or still just bunk?
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04-12-2018 , 04:02 AM
Just eat more regular protein?
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04-12-2018 , 04:46 AM
Why don't you un**** your diet?
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04-12-2018 , 02:30 PM
My diet is fine. I periodically spot check my macros to ensure I'm still on point. Plus I'm only at 3-400 hours of cardio each year with no desire to worry about performance with that fine tooth of a comb.

It was just a statement that someone made which made me curious. His take was that at 500+ hours annually it was easier to supplement with bcaa then to worry about the maybe.

Saw the recent post and figured I'd ask the question.
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04-14-2018 , 01:18 PM
What size deficit is safe on a day to day basis, with occasional refeeds to 500-1000 cal deficits or so?

I'm currently operating at a 1500-2000 cal/day deficit, that may even be a slight underestimation at this (current) weight. I want to make sure I'm not overdoing it. I currently feel comfortable consuming 1200-1700 calories a day, I don't mind feeling hunger and, I guess, get a bit masochistic with it.

I touched on all this in my blog. For context, I just had tests done before I started dropping and I was in surprisingly good shape on that front. No family history of any issue and the opposite in fact. I just want to be safe while as hardcore as possible currently.
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04-21-2018 , 07:18 AM
w,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you

Whoever made that take seems like they don't understand the very basics of diet. If you're deficient in a macro nutrient, taking a subset of that macro nutrient to make up for the entire deficit seems silly. Also, it is very likely that person has no ****ing idea how many carbs and endurance athlete needs. Hint: No so much you won't have a massive discretionary budget of calories.

Feel free to sketch this out on a sheet of paper, but it is pretty much impossible for someone who isn't being deliberately obtuse to argue that they can't get sufficient protein into their diet. (Also BCAA has calories so it kinda makes no sense.)

My initially flippant response was more at how fundamentally ******ed the question is, and how little about nutrition someone would need to know for that to even be a possibility.

DI,

At your current level of obesity, basically anything where you fulfill basic fat/etc needs. (Micro nutritional as well, so take a multivitamin) I'd suggest getting A Guide to Flexible Dieting by Lyle McDonald and reading that. Refeeds are a great tool that makes dieting easier to fit into a normal life. (IE celebratory meals, etc) However, they are not needed to prevent metabolic slowdown or in any real way for people very fat.
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04-21-2018 , 11:03 AM
Ok cool, thanks Thremp. I'll order it rn.

You're right about the multivitamin as well. I haven't been, and I will.
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05-02-2018 , 05:19 PM
Doing a body fat % loss bet with a friend and we’re looking for opinions on what attainable, but challenging, goals would be. From a quick google search it seems like 1% loss a month is a decent goal. We are looking to do it over the course of the next 8 months. We’re around 23.5% and 20%. So does each losing 8% sound about right?
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05-03-2018 , 05:11 AM
what are your current weights and heights?
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05-08-2018 , 04:59 AM
I've been trying the fasting recently but after a while I get a dry/nasty taste in my mouth so I figured I might try some sugarfree smints/gum. Only later did I do some research and its not very clear, the mints I take have these ingredients, will they "break" the fast/create insuline/whatever is bad for me?

sorbitol, aspartaam, sucralose, acesulfaam-K
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05-08-2018 , 06:52 AM
No. Also its unclear that fasting has any benefits specific to fasting. I have not reviewed the literature since a prior thread on this, but most of the benefits are extremely highly correlated with caloric restriction in general and there is a major lack of isocaloric control groups. (None that I'm aware of.)

tldr; Mints are fine all the time. Fast if it helps you eat less. There is no evidence it provides any other benefit.
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05-08-2018 , 07:15 AM
Thanks for the fast response, Im doing it only to lose some weight.
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