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08-22-2014 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Royale
Anyone know a good Android app for tracking calories/protein? Google docs might work but I'd rather use some food diary kind of app. MFP is pretty terrible imo but could work if I decide to track only calories.
LoseIt works for me. By default it doesn't track macros, but if you go into settings, you can add tracking of the following:

Carbohydrates
Protein
Fiber
Cholesterol
Sugars
Sodium
Fat
Saturated Fat
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08-22-2014 , 03:24 PM
I think it's somewhat agreed upon here (not sure, someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong) that conventional is better than sumo for functional strength and aesthetics.

For powerlifters who want to maximize what weight they can pull, that's a separate conversation.
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08-22-2014 , 03:28 PM
Anyway, I have a quick question about protein powder. The wife and I have started adding it to our routines as we've been lifting. For me, it's only a modest increase in calories over the coffee creamer I usually put into my coffee, and it's probably a little better for me. The Optimum Nutrition double chocolate tastes fine. We got a small thing off Amazon to try out, but since it's a change that's likely to stick, it's not cheap. I'm gonna get some more. Does Costco carry a powder that's similar tasting/dissolving for less than what Amazon sells ON for (I don't think Costco carries ON)? Is there a better source? I checked the review thread in the sticky, but it's kinda out of date.
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08-22-2014 , 03:48 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw some ON products at my local costco. There's a lot variation with what they keep locally though.
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08-22-2014 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Hey guys, I'm having a weird issue with power cleans (following starting strength). I get the bar up fine, but on the way down I get this feeling like my muscles are a rubber band being let go. Happens more with more weight, I think it's because I'm going down too fast. Does that make sense? My form seems ok in the mirror afaict.

Familiar with all the other starting strength lifts, but never really done power cleans before.

Any suggestions?
So if anyone has a similar problem, I think I got it worked out. Drastically lowered my weight and did some form work. I think I need to pop the bar up a little bit when I come out of my holding position. This seems to lower the stress on my elbows and I'm not feeling it even a little. It is lower weight though, which I'll slowly ramp up as I get more confident with it.
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08-22-2014 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I'm pretty sure I saw some ON products at my local costco. There's a lot variation with what they keep locally though.
I strolled through the other day and I don't think I saw any, but it can't hurt to look again, I guess.
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08-22-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by highland
Sumo has a lower mobility requirement to execute properly, and for that reason it might be an OK choice to replace traditional. Most of the people ITF when first starting out DLing, look very much like the example picture in Ultimate Back Performance and Fitness (McGill) of who should not be cleared to train with heavy DLs (lower back slightly rounded, neck craning, hips high). He suggests trap bar DLs, while mobility (and core isometry) is insufficient for good form on the traditional DL.
have been wondering if my lack of mobility is going to be an issue with squating and deadlifting. eek!! is it possible that i wouldn't even be cleared to begin those lifts before doing some time period of corrective work?
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08-22-2014 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamKB
have been wondering if my lack of mobility is going to be an issue with squating and deadlifting. eek!! is it possible that i wouldn't even be cleared to begin those lifts before doing some time period of corrective work?
You can squat, just brace yourself in neutral at the top, and when you feel like you can't keep your lumbar straight anymore, go back up. It will be too high to count for a competition, but will help your mobility for both squat and DL.
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08-22-2014 , 04:50 PM
I'm not particularly mobile, and I have disproportionately short arms. When I deadlift, it's much more "squatty" looking than what I see in videos. I get my ass down as low as it will go while still keeping my back rigid, so I end up much more upright. But it's not Sumo, since hands and feet are positioned about where they'd be for traditional DL.

This is the only way I've found I can DL without serious back pain.
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08-22-2014 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
If these are packaged food then you can just use the barcode scanner that's in the app to put your own food in.
Yeah, that barcode scanner seemed pretty sweet. I tried the Fatsecret app and it has it as well, both apps seemed pretty similar.

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
LoseIt works for me. By default it doesn't track macros, but if you go into settings, you can add tracking of the following:

Carbohydrates
Protein
Fiber
Cholesterol
Sugars
Sodium
Fat
Saturated Fat
I tried searching for a LoseIt app yesterday but didn't find one. Will give it another try later.

For now I'm back to using MFP.
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08-22-2014 , 09:37 PM
My wife and I use loseit apps on our phones. She's got an iPhone, I have a Nexus 5. It's there.
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08-22-2014 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamKB
he says the sumo deadlifts is as good (or nearly so) as the conventional deadlift for building size and strength.. and it may be more functional as it better replicates how humans actually lift things in the "wild". what do you guys thing of that? not having much, if any, experience with the lifts, it seems to me that the sumo deadlift would be easier to learn and execute. thoughts??
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Originally Posted by saw7988
I think it's somewhat agreed upon here (not sure, someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong) that conventional is better than sumo for functional strength and aesthetics.

For powerlifters who want to maximize what weight they can pull, that's a separate conversation.
Tbh I'd like some justification on why you think conventional is better for aesthetics and "functional strength" but perhaps this isn't the right thread. Anyway, for TeamKB's purposes I'd say it's much, much more important to just do whatever feels better aka is safer and work on technique by posting vids here. Fwiw here's a decent article by Mike Robertson comparing the different methods.

Edit: Noticed you asked about the FM method: Yes you can do them 6 days/week, just don't go near failure on pushups and chins and try to increase your overall volume every week.

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08-23-2014 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Anyway, I have a quick question about protein powder. The wife and I have started adding it to our routines as we've been lifting. For me, it's only a modest increase in calories over the coffee creamer I usually put into my coffee, and it's probably a little better for me. The Optimum Nutrition double chocolate tastes fine. We got a small thing off Amazon to try out, but since it's a change that's likely to stick, it's not cheap. I'm gonna get some more. Does Costco carry a powder that's similar tasting/dissolving for less than what Amazon sells ON for (I don't think Costco carries ON)? Is there a better source? I checked the review thread in the sticky, but it's kinda out of date.
Cytosport Whey is the most common protein I've seen at Costco. Usually see it for sale in store for around $50/bag, which is good value for 6 pounds of 27g/serving stuff.
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08-23-2014 , 03:54 AM
Flavored whey powders are typically always around 80% protein, I have no idea why you think the suggested serving size has any effect to the value.

I have no idea how expensive whey typically is in the US, but you can find cheaper than that whey even here and food is typically about twice as expensive here.

On the other hand, (almost) all wheys are still relatively cheap so just buy the one which you think tastes best.
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08-23-2014 , 04:37 AM
If you're looking for good value you should focus on servings per tub, not protein per serving. There can be a huge difference in number of servings, even though most tubs are ~5lbs of powder. BSN syntha-6 only has like 48 shakes per 5lbs, whereas for instance ProLab essential whey has 75. And they cost around the same and both have 21gr of protein per serving.

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08-23-2014 , 05:40 AM
g/$ ldo.

lolservingsizes.
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08-23-2014 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kozor
Oh how timely!

I'm going to switch my training from SS to GSLP and was wondering if the book (or any of his other books) are worth the investment in your/ the forum's opinion?

I already own SS & 5/3/1.
I'll take the plunge then. Thanks.
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08-23-2014 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
g/$ ldo.

lolservingsizes.
No, g/$ makes no sense.

$/serving makes sense.
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08-23-2014 , 10:08 AM
So hypothetically you'd prefer $10/serving at 5g/serving than say $15/serving of 50g/serving?
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08-23-2014 , 10:13 AM
Protein shakes are always 20-25gr per serving.

$ per gr of protein makes sense too
$ per gr of powder does not
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08-23-2014 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Syndr0m
Protein shakes are always 20-25gr per serving.

$ per gr of protein makes sense too
$ per gr of powder does not
Ah ok, I assumed he was talking $/g protein.
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08-23-2014 , 12:00 PM
Ldo.
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08-23-2014 , 01:34 PM
Well, I'm willing to pay a modest premium for taste and something that dissolves well, too. I found ON chocolate whey extract, not the gold double chocolate whatever, at Costco for actually a few bucks more than what Amazon was charging. The gold double chocolate seems to be more expensive. Is there a material difference between the two? Cytosport whey taste/dissolve comparably to ON gold double chocolate?
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08-23-2014 , 05:00 PM
I didn't like Hydro Builder, it just didn't dissolve well at all. I've tried a few different brands and keep going back to ON, because it's just the best.
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08-23-2014 , 08:41 PM
What do you think of p90x (or similar home workout programs)?
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