Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** ****Official Beginner Question Thread****

07-09-2013 , 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
yea i can read pretty fast. It still took me 3 or so days and i had to pretend i was reading work related stuff at work to finish it but novels I can do in pretty much a single day. The book is about a 80$ if I buy from an indian online bookstore but the shipping is 2 weeks. I will try and find a free pdf (like i did for LBD) today and if I still don't find it, I will probably order it.

I will not say I was able to comprehend everything in LBD but I got a good idea about things from each part of the book. I could probably do with another going over of some topics.
It's actually from that book that i realized my recent flare ups are somewhat more like Degenerative Disc Disease issues (my MRI reports suggested mild DDD with the annular tear in S1 and herniation in L5 along with very minor arthritic symptoms) than directly related to the herniation or the QL. Although it does seem like all these issues are intertwined with each other in a complex manner. The solution in all of the issues seems simply - STRENGHTEN YOUR CORE but be smart about it.
yeah, I think you're on the right track


Quote:
Originally Posted by SenseiSingh
Thanks for the info, I will look into this. For now I am going to do Hammer Curls and/or Reverse Curls and see how that feels. My pain is better than it was a couple of days ago.

I am not sure what to do about back squatting. I feel the flare ups were probably because of bad form i.e not keeping the torso tight enough. In terms of keeping the back from rounding I do a good job but I think I was fidgeting too much with the back loaded. I was also doing 1/4" raised heels back squats and very heavy weight @ 5x5. I feel if I reduced the weight and increased the reps it could be good but another flare up would be very demoralizing so I am going to refrain from them....which sucks because I love the move.

Tried front squats yesterday and they are hard to do. The upper region of my arms are sore from keeping the bar there and I didn't really like the move that much. Probably going to stick to goblet squats for now and do a lot more lunges, light RDLs and isolation moves like barbell glute bridges and calf raises for legs.

Also that regimen of short duration multiple rep planks, side planks, bird dogs and clams etc. are really really helping. I am feeling better in my lower back and I am not as stiff as I sometimes can be when I wake up after a 8+ hours of sleep. I was a fool for ignoring my core because I thought back squats and other compounds were enough for them.
When you do the curls (and any other lifting), make sure to pack the neck, otherwise you are likely to get more radial nerve flare-ups. My guess is you were doing something bad with neck position that caused this. That's based on my own experience.

The best "packing the neck" cue is to get your head back, chin down and make a double chin.

Neck position affects the whole spine, so having your neck in a bad place can affect your thoracic pine and that can lead to lumbar problems.

While not ideal, you can do front squats with a cross handed grip.

If/when you go back to back squats (dont do this before your core is very strong and you can do them with no core movement at all), try a wider grip. I just started doing this the past couple weeks and I havent had any radial nerve flare-ups since.


Quote:
Originally Posted by stupidHax0rz
what's the deal with soy protein? like, i know whey protein is supposed to be better and stuff, but if i happen to eat something with soy protein it still counts the same for my macros right? or not..?
This is my take on it. It is not necessarily fact, but stuff I've read and personal experience make me think its true.

I've read stuff that says soy protein can raise estrogen levels. It also makes digesting other types of protein harder. For example, if you ingest soy with beef, the bioavailabilty (not sure if I have that term correct) of the beef goes from ~90 to ~25. What that means is you dont digest most of the protein in the beef. In addition to all that, soy lacks many essential amino acids that complete protein sources like eggs, chicken, beef & whey all have.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-10-2013 , 03:34 AM
Quote:
This is my take on it. It is not necessarily fact, but stuff I've read and personal experience make me think its true.

I've read stuff that says soy protein can raise estrogen levels. It also makes digesting other types of protein harder. For example, if you ingest soy with beef, the bioavailabilty (not sure if I have that term correct) of the beef goes from ~90 to ~25. What that means is you dont digest most of the protein in the beef. In addition to all that, soy lacks many essential amino acids that complete protein sources like eggs, chicken, beef & whey all have.
damn, that sounds pretty bad haha. i guess i am going to have to confront my bizarre addiction to a certain brand of protein bar.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-10-2013 , 09:24 AM
Clif builder bars are good aren't they.

Honestly I wouldn't worry about it too much. Most studies about the negatives of Soy deal with unusually larger quantities. Like if you drank soy milk 24/7 etc
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-10-2013 , 03:53 PM
It's hard to have enough Soy for it to matter.

Just count it.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-10-2013 , 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclear500
Honestly I wouldn't worry about it too much. Most studies about the negatives of Soy deal with unusually larger quantities. Like if you drank soy milk 24/7 etc
Quote:
Originally Posted by chim17
It's hard to have enough Soy for it to matter.

Just count it.
This is my understanding as well. If you had no other source of protein or were consuming 50+% of your protein as soy, it might be a worry, but soy milk on your cereal or a bar with soy protein in it 1-2/day isn't going to derail you unless I'm wildly misunderstanding what's going on.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-10-2013 , 04:02 PM
^^^^^ Agree with the three previous posts.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 12:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by michty6


Vary Pullups with Chinups. Drop leg raises. Read FAQ. Then you'll have yourself a pretty good beginner program.

For squat start very low and work your way up over time - building both the muscles and technique. Most people make the mistake of starting too heavy. It's probably impossible to start too light. Start with something like 85lb (bar + 2 x 10lb each side) and see how you feel the day after. If you feel fine add 10lb next time; if you feel you've been worked out a bit add 5lb each time.

I started at 80lb and am now at 220lb by adding 5lb each time, squatting twice a week. Starting low and building up is the way to go.
tyty i dropped leg raises and replaced it by L-chin ups
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 04:26 AM
my weekly average of protein intake is usually broken down into 40% whey powder, 20% chicken, 20% egg whites, 10% paneer (indian cottage cheese made from full fat milk) 5% direct milk, and 5% turkey, salami, pepperoni type meat. Variations probably come from incidental protein intake as well from breads, pastas veggies etc etc.

I weigh 190lbs and average intake is about 180g.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 05:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cha59
You read pretty fast actually. Did you comprehend everything in LBD?

Supple Leopard is very good.

Ultimate Back gets into a lot more stuff about lifting properly. I dont know what the cost would be in your part of the world, but its more interesting than LBD, and now that you've read LBD, you should have a good understanding of everything in Ultimate Back.

I agree with the rest of your post.
found the book on the intertubes. Just started reading and I can already tell disgunbgud.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 07:12 AM
I just ordered 500g of creatine-monohydrate for the first time ever.
I eat a lot of red meat so I might be more likely to be a non-responder than most but the stuff is cheap and apparently there are no risky side-effects so no hurt in trying I guess.

A couple of questions:

1.) 5g/day is the recommended dosage, amirite?
2.) Load or not? If yes, 10g/day for the first 10 days or 20g/day for the first 5 days? (prolly whatevs, rite?)
3.) I think I read somewhere that it doesn't go well with coffee / caffeine-rich drinks. Is that solely because both dehydrate you or is there more to it?
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pummi81
I just ordered 500g of creatine-monohydrate for the first time ever.
I eat a lot of red meat so I might be more likely to be a non-responder than most but the stuff is cheap and apparently there are no risky side-effects so no hurt in trying I guess.

A couple of questions:

1.) 5g/day is the recommended dosage, amirite?
2.) Load or not? If yes, 10g/day for the first 10 days or 20g/day for the first 5 days? (prolly whatevs, rite?)
3.) I think I read somewhere that it doesn't go well with coffee / caffeine-rich drinks. Is that solely because both dehydrate you or is there more to it?
1. Yup
2. Your choice. You can load or just take 5g/day. If loading, 20g is the 'standard' for the first 5 days.
3. A lot of this sort of stuff (like most info on Creatine) is just internet information overload imo. Just either take Creatine Mono 5g/day with whatever, or load then take 5g/day. If you don't feel so good taking it at X time with Y drink then vary X/Y and see if you feel better.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 11:48 AM
A'it, thanks.
I think I'll just take 20g/day for the first first 5 days and 5g/day from there on out and see what happens.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 01:05 PM
40% protein intake coming from a powder gives me sads.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 03:11 PM
I've always been really skinny my whole life, I try to eat as much as I can, but never gained any weight really.

Will muscle milk help at all with this? the flavor is ok, and they are easy to buy a lot and just drink whenever, and it doesn't fill me up at all. Is this a good way to go about adding a few extra calories to my diet?
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 03:24 PM
Hi guys,

I want to get back in shape but I hate working out. I find it incredibly boring and, obviously, painful. "Hate" is a strong word to use but it's not far off. Lifting weights, keeping track of every little exercise, reps, what I eat, when I work out etc just seems like an enormous chore that makes it hard for me to muster up the enthusiasm to maintain focus.

So my noob question is this: do most people eventually get past this stage? Is it common? Do I need to power through the discomfort/boredom? I'm not sure if I'm just not a "workout person" and I should play sports or something to stay in shape instead or if this is fairly common and will go away once I start seeing results. I don't consider myself a generally undisciplined person fwiw and enjoy achieving things I put my mind to.

Thanks.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 06:40 PM
my 2 cents

You have to be motivated somehow to be consistent working out. Some people just enjoy it. Some are motivated by looking in the mirror. Some want to feel better. Lots of reasons. The point being, if you aren't motivated, you won't stick with it.

I doubt that the "seeing results" route will do it. You'll see results fairly quickly, then plateau. Once that happens, you'll need something else to keep motivated.

If you enjoy achieving things, that might be motivation. Probably something you need to figure out.

might only be worth 1 cent
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 10:18 PM
thanks. guess ill just have to experiment and see what works for me.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-11-2013 , 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cha59
The Stick is good. I have two and like the shorter Sprinter Stick better than the longer one. They work well on calves, and your suggested use seems like a good idea too.

Another item to consider, is this. I ordered one the other day, but havent received it yet:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Update on this item if you ever received it Cha? I saw something similar in a store but it was too soft
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-12-2013 , 01:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpotpoker
I've always been really skinny my whole life, I try to eat as much as I can, but never gained any weight really.
Then you're just not trying hard enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigpotpoker
Will muscle milk help at all with this?
If you're going to drink it on top of your usual diet (which I assume is maintenance calories for you), sure it will help, just like any extra calories would.

It sounds like you need to educate yourself about nutrition in general tho, so I suggest that you go to Lyle McDonalds's BodyRecomposition website and read every article you can there.

Below is a random-ish quote from one of his muscle gain articles:
(should be relevant to your situation)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle McDonald
Not eating enough

Some people simply lack the appetite to eat sufficient amounts to gain muscle (or any weight at all). While they may be able to force feed calories for a little bit, their appetite regulatory mechanisms kick in and they unconsciously reduce calories. Their bodies also tend to upregulate metabolic rate better than others, so they burn off more calories (a phenomenon called non-exercise activity thermogenesis or NEAT).

But the simple fact is this: if such ‘big-eaters’ were actually eating as much as they think they are, they would be at least gaining some body fat, even if they were gaining zero muscle. If a trainee swears he’s eating a ton, but he’s not even gaining body fat, I know he’s still not eating enough (or even as much as he thinks he is).
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-12-2013 , 06:59 PM
I'm having a minor issue with squats. While and after I do them, I feel a little wonky on my left side. My left lower back feels a tad tight, but not bad. Nothing to stop me or make me worry about anything. And, my left groin is a little tender when I do them as well. Again, nothing bad. But it tells me something needs to get stretched/rolled/loosened somewhere. I'm rolling like a fool and doing various mobility exercises that cha recommended. Anything I can do to target this specific issue?
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-13-2013 , 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saw7988
40% protein intake coming from a powder gives me sads.
Unfortunately variety of meats are not a luxury in India. There are a couple of meat shops near me and 90% of their product is chicken. The turkey is also a 'chicken turkey'. It gets tiring after a while. I'd have to haul back good meat from Delhi in bulk and then there is the problem of storage and power. Power cuts are too frequent in the summer. I can hardly keep a packet of cheese from going bad after it's open.

Even the restaurants (and fast food joints like McD) mostly only have chicken on their menu. I could frequent the hard rock cafe in the city everyday to get some red meat <3 but that's not a very realistic situaish.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-13-2013 , 09:56 AM
Easily the most valid response I've gotten for that. Touche sir.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-13-2013 , 11:14 AM
so i know jack**** about treadmills, but i want to get one so i can obv exercise ect in my own home. an old friend of mine posted one he had for sale on Facebook and i was wondering if any of you could tell me anything about this or if its worth it? he told me it was an "image" treadmill and that was about it he said he was selling due to "It's like new we just don't have room for it any more" he said 250 obo fwiw i dont think he is lying to me at all about any thing i just want to get a little input from someone that might have a little more knowledge on these things then i do
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...09597581_n.jpg
link is picture of treadmill...thanks in advance for any feedback
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-13-2013 , 03:49 PM
Dunno anything about treadmills, but the reason he's selling it is the same reason as 99% of treadmill sales. He bought it with grand plans of using it every night. Used it 5 times in the first week, twice in the second week, then never again. Almost guaranteed same will happen to you. Save the money and run on the road. It's more rewarding and for that reason has more chance of compliance, especially if you follow a decent training program and have some goals such as entering a race. Plus, if you do give it up, you won't have a $250 heap of metal and rubber taking up space in your house.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote
07-13-2013 , 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerRon247
Dunno anything about treadmills, but the reason he's selling it is the same reason as 99% of treadmill sales. He bought it with grand plans of using it every night. Used it 5 times in the first week, twice in the second week, then never again. Almost guaranteed same will happen to you. Save the money and run on the road. It's more rewarding and for that reason has more chance of compliance, especially if you follow a decent training program and have some goals such as entering a race. Plus, if you do give it up, you won't have a $250 heap of metal and rubber taking up space in your house.
Potentially true, but I personally prefer treadmill running to road running because of weather conditions (I hate running in the rain), and because I'm weak and prefer to have the TV on to get through my cardio sessions.

The goals more than anything I would agree help with compliance.
****Official Beginner Question Thread**** Quote

      
m