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12-16-2009 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thremp
You're likely absurdly fat. How long have you been on this program? How much weight have you lost?

Do you care what you look like or just to lose fat mass? Or do you want to retain LBM?
you'd be surprised how absurdly fat i'm not. but that's not even relevant. as for "the program" it's something i'm just starting. i am purely looking to lose fat. what is LBM?
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12-16-2009 , 11:21 PM
Actually, it is. You're the one asking questions. So I'd rather you not be a dick about stuff you don't understand.

LBM is lean body mass.

Do you care about getting better at Muay thai or just losing fat?
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12-16-2009 , 11:40 PM
you only eat like a pig if you're not already a pig. SS is just a good way to get beginner gains efficiently. you can prolong these gains by gaining weight, which is what skinny people do. at 5'10" 280lb no one would recommend you gaining weight.

if your primary goal was to actually lose as much body fat as possible, the "best" way to do that would result in you also losing lean mass as well. so really you probably want to maintain as much of your present muscle while losing a bunch of fat. SS and a slight caloric deficit with adequate protein is probably your best bet.
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12-16-2009 , 11:50 PM
"I want to lose fat" and "I want to look as good as possible" are different questions that don't lead to the same place. They start out the same only for the absurdly morbidly obese. Like even gobboboy might not qualify and he's a mound of lard.

Regardless, if your goals are purely physical and you're really fat, doing something like PSMF with a 2x a week or every 10 days SS type workout may be superior. I don't really know. Probably FPS for lard buckets as the degree in speed is a few weeks at most to ending up at the same place.
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12-16-2009 , 11:55 PM
yeah just looking to lose the fat.
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12-17-2009 , 12:08 AM
you'd rather me not be a dick?? L O L

thremp eat me. anyone else: should i start SS tomorrow?
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12-17-2009 , 12:16 AM
GLHF.
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12-17-2009 , 01:01 AM
You're not going to have anyone disagree with the context of what thremp says.

Lifting heavy weights is the best way to achieve almost anything fitness related (expect marathon running ldo). Looking better, losing fat, getting cut, etc. are all things that have to start by heavy lifting. SS is the best program to start with. Just eat less calories than you expend and lift heavy weights. Not only will you lose fat, you will actually look healthy when you've lost all the fat, and not skinny-ugly.
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12-17-2009 , 01:26 AM
that's ok, i'm not disagreeing with anything he's saying.
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12-17-2009 , 01:50 AM
thremp wat does that mean?

imo daryn is the new demichelle.

daryn, you do not want to just lose fat, you want to lose fat and maintain as much muscle as possible or else you'll still look like **** at a reasonable bodyweight. Lots of lardasses like you get down to reasonable weights and they still look like lardasses, then they realize they should have been lifting dem heavy ass weights yeah buddayy. Lifte heavy ass weights imo. Start SS ASAP, eat a little bit less and lose weight at a consistent reasonable clip.
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12-17-2009 , 01:52 AM
^^^^^Yup

Lets have someone else explain it a different way, and maybe he'll get it then.
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12-17-2009 , 02:09 AM
Most people can't articulate what they want to do, they just say things. Everyone wants to look good naked. Unless you're Jeff, who looks ****ing fabulous naked.
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12-17-2009 , 02:14 AM
I found this forum 5 months ago and have a freakin tough time explaining what I want to do.

That's actually a fabulous name for a log because it would be so universal and applicable to everyone.

"Johnnyfondue's Look Good Nekkid Log (PM Me for Pics)"
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12-17-2009 , 02:16 AM
I think TC from T-Nation was the first person to articulate the idea in those terms. Regardless of his inherent lack of writing skills and uber alles broseph status, it still conceptualizes the idea that everyone is going for with their training. Getting strong is a goal for a small subset of trainees or completing esoteric performance goals. The main focus for most people is looking better and the former fuels the latter.
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12-17-2009 , 02:50 AM
guys wtf? don't act like i am against lifting weights, i am for it! i have in the past. i'm ready to start SS tomorrow!
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12-17-2009 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue
^^^^^Yup

Lets have someone else explain it a different way, and maybe he'll get it then.
you're ******ed.
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12-17-2009 , 03:11 AM
Is there a question you are asking?
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12-17-2009 , 06:01 AM
I must enjoy the bit of delicious irony here. Regardless, since this is a troll free zone. I suppose I am forced to help... and that reading the free chapter from Rapid Fat Loss from www.bodyrecomposition.com would help. Actually the whole thing might since it explains why your comments about being "absurdly fat" are stupid.

NB: I have not read it as I don't want to worry about "Rapid Fat Loss". Everytime I try "dieting" I just give up and wanna get 70sBig.
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12-17-2009 , 06:18 AM
miles answered daryn's question perfectly imo, nothing more to see here apart from e-peen waving.
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12-17-2009 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by daryn
guys wtf? don't act like i am against lifting weights, i am for it! i have in the past. i'm ready to start SS tomorrow!
do it. noone advised against it. We were just picking your goals apart a little because many people don't really know or get the difference between losing bodyweight and losing fat while maintaining muscle mass (hence the LBM discussion).

If you're really eating less than 2000 kcal per day, you should be losing all kinds of weight already with 280 lbs BW. It would clear things up a bit if you could provide us with a body fat percentage. That's a good thing to use to measure progress. And while the absolute values given by most measuring techniques are pretty inaccurate, it would still shed some light on how you can be a weightlifting novice, 5'10", 280 lbs and not really that fat.
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12-17-2009 , 10:32 AM
I ate a whole bunch of black berries tonight (12 oz or so) and while they were pretty tasty, most of them weren't super ripe. They were somewhere between half way sour and half way sweet. Everyone once in a while I would get one so sweet it tasted like black berry jam. Yum.

Anyway, here's my question. Does half way ripened black berries(or fruit for that matter) contain as much sugar as all the way ripened, super sweet fruit? If it does I need to just let them ripen a little longer, though it's hard to imagine very unripe sour fruit chalked full of sugar.
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12-17-2009 , 10:46 AM
might be a noob question idk.

was benching today, and sprained my trap / neck muscle. how the **** does this happen? and how likely is it this is because of a form error?
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12-17-2009 , 12:15 PM
you were probably pressing your head back into the bench which you shouldn't do.
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12-17-2009 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Genz
do it. noone advised against it. We were just picking your goals apart a little because many people don't really know or get the difference between losing bodyweight and losing fat while maintaining muscle mass (hence the LBM discussion).

If you're really eating less than 2000 kcal per day, you should be losing all kinds of weight already with 280 lbs BW. It would clear things up a bit if you could provide us with a body fat percentage. That's a good thing to use to measure progress. And while the absolute values given by most measuring techniques are pretty inaccurate, it would still shed some light on how you can be a weightlifting novice, 5'10", 280 lbs and not really that fat.
i just started the 2000 cal/day. i just did a fast unscientific online body fat % calculator and got 24.5% body fat.

as for "picking my goals apart", i don't get it. i simply stated i want to lose the fat. i literally said nothing more! i am here for advice and to follow that advice. i'm not trying to say i'm not fat, just not a spectacle. i will take pics if necessary.
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12-17-2009 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by daryn
i just started the 2000 cal/day. i just did a fast unscientific online body fat % calculator and got 24.5% body fat.

as for "picking my goals apart", i don't get it. i simply stated i want to lose the fat. i literally said nothing more! i am here for advice and to follow that advice. i'm not trying to say i'm not fat, just not a spectacle. i will take pics if necessary.
look the point is that you state your goal is to to loose fat. Why have you decided on this goal, most likely to look better (nekkid). Now we will tell you that going into a diet without heavy resistance training will make you end up still looking terrible at lower weight because you lose LBM together with fat.
The trick to improving how you look (nekkid) is by losing bodyfat while retaining or building muscle mass.

that's why we picked your goal apart, to see how you came to the goal of losing fat because that is your real motivation / goal.
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