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06-29-2010 , 11:45 PM

#5001

anononon

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That happens for awhile. When you're not weak.... It gets much harder.

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06-29-2010 , 11:53 PM

#5002

coolface

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Originally Posted by sylar

Yes. The smell will be pretty obvious when they go bad.

So as long as it still smells like strawberry and cookies n cream it will be good. cool.

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06-30-2010 , 12:51 AM

#5003

Wrane

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my townhouse gym doesn't have barbells so are these videos correct form for dumbbells?

deadlift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzsVO...eature=related
squat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24PeqytTtq4

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06-30-2010 , 01:45 AM

#5004

Maximum Rocknroll

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Lift heavier weights.

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06-30-2010 , 03:32 AM

#5005

Soulman

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Originally Posted by Wrane

my townhouse gym doesn't have barbells so are these videos correct form for dumbbells?

You can't really do SS without barbells, sorry.

I'm taking ~5 mins between sets on SS now, standard?

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06-30-2010 , 04:17 AM

#5006

anononon

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Yes, standard.

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06-30-2010 , 10:26 AM

#5007

podkayneofjupiter

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Is stretching advised before (or post) KB routine involving swings, cleans etc.? Also, can swings be qualified as a warm up prior to doing more strength exercises (pulls, cleans, squats etc.)?

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06-30-2010 , 12:10 PM

#5008

Alex-db

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From Rip's articles he says he added the bench to SS because of its popularity at the time (or the un-popularity of the press).

I know we beginners aren't supposed to try to vary anything, but could we infer that a program with squats, presses, dips(?), deads and cleans would have been written if it would have sold as well?

If so that would be easier to complete without a spotter.

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06-30-2010 , 01:00 PM

#5009

Nottom

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Originally Posted by Soulman

I'm taking ~5 mins between sets on SS now, standard?

My squat breaks are starting to creep up towards 7-8 minutes

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06-30-2010 , 01:07 PM

#5010

JohnnyFondue

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Often on my last rep of a heavy bench set when I am struggling to get the bar up, my butt will come off the bench a little bit as the bar finally gets to the top. I feel like this is giving me the extra little bit to make it.

Is this acceptable or something I need to fix?

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06-30-2010 , 01:19 PM

#5011

Gorilla4Sale

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totally acceptable imo.

that's what you need to get it done and you aren't being judged in a competition.

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06-30-2010 , 01:21 PM

#5012

HalfSlant

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Originally Posted by Alex-db

You can bench in the cage/rack without a spotter. Have the safety bars lower than your chest but higher than your neck. Works quite well.

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06-30-2010 , 01:23 PM

#5013

JohnnyFondue

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Hmmm. I just tried it without lifting my butt off the seat on my last set. Completed it fine.

I guess I'll save that as a last resort life or death save in the future.

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06-30-2010 , 01:36 PM

#5014

Soulman

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue

I guess I'll save that as a last resort life or death save in the future.

Sounds like a good idea. Slippery slope imo, soon you'll start getting bro assists and bouncing off your rib cage.

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06-30-2010 , 01:52 PM

#5015

anononon

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Originally Posted by Alex-db

I think that Rip initially felt this way, but came around to liking the bench press for a variety of reasons (balance of work for the shoulders/chest when augmented with the press being a big one). Starr I know doesn't care for the bench press.

Dips are absolutely a fine substitution for bench pressing; Rip has stated this many times. However, it can lead to some weird injuries, including cracked/fractured sternums; it's also hard to load properly.

I would stick with the bench press until you get reasonably strong with it, then make your own decision wrt dips.

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07-01-2010 , 06:58 AM

#5016

Thremp

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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale

totally acceptable imo.

that's what you need to get it done and you aren't being judged in a competition.

No. Its not acceptable. This is a weird way to view things and makes no sense. If its a question of whether you risk injury/harm, then obviously its fine. But to think in a vacuum that raising your hips up is acceptable is dumb.

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07-01-2010 , 08:43 AM

#5017

Gorilla4Sale

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I couldn't disagree more.

If you're benching and you need to raise your hips up to complete the final rep or fail (which is how it was presented) then I have no issue with driving your legs so hard that your butt comes off the bench some.

It's not like i'm advocating to complete sets that way, just in a 'get it or fail' scenario. I'm surprised you would disagree tbh.

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07-01-2010 , 02:03 PM

#5018

anonn12345

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Originally Posted by kyleb

Dips are absolutely a fine substitution for bench pressing; Rip has stated this many times. However, it can lead to some weird injuries, including cracked/fractured sternums; it's also hard to load properly.

I am currently doing weighted dips. The first rep of every set I feel like my sternum is going to crack and my shoulders are going to rip out of their sockets. However, once I get the first rep out of the way I can get my body in balance, redistribute the weight to my tris/chest better, and I feel fine.

Still, in some ways I feel like weighted dips are just an injury waiting to happen. Anyone have any suggestions for a better (safer) press assistance exercise?

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07-01-2010 , 02:07 PM

#5019

anonn12345

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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale

I never bridge to complete a bench rep I know I am going to fail otherwise. Not because I have any moral opposition to it, but because it never occurs to me to do so.

However, I have done some horrible feeling things to my back straining to lock out the last rep of an overheard press set.

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07-01-2010 , 02:14 PM

#5020

sylar

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Originally Posted by jdock99

just curious, do you do warmup sets of dips before your weighted work-set?

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07-01-2010 , 06:47 PM

#5021

KhalynYohrk

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can anyone estimate how many calories are burned in 15 minutes of jumping rope?

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07-01-2010 , 07:42 PM

#5022

Gorilla4Sale

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Originally Posted by KhalynYohrk

can anyone estimate how many calories are burned in 15 minutes of jumping rope?

http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/Calories.html

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07-01-2010 , 07:53 PM

#5023

00Snitch

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+1 on feeling like dips are going to rip my shoulders off.. Although I never get any sternum pain.

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07-01-2010 , 09:03 PM

#5024

JohnnyFondue

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Besides basic googling skillz, I nominate Chimp4Hire for H+F rookie poster HOF

Pop quiz: How many macro-nutrients are there:

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07-02-2010 , 07:19 AM

#5025

tankleton

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Is chronic pain/cramp in the soles of your feet standard? Started SS this week, wearing Ironworks fwiw. My recovery periods during squats and power cleans today were determined by the foot pain!

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