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07-14-2018 , 10:12 PM
Rexx,

Without seeing it, I'm lay pretty good odds that that post was at least onslaught/boiling oat adjacent.
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07-15-2018 , 02:52 AM
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No it wasn't Lol, well he could also have said it but I think this guy was a mod. Maybe it was in the ytf thread. Ok am going to search his thread for broccoli!
LOL definitely made a comment about how it's really easy to get an adequate amount of protein without eating meat. As an example of how easy it is, he mentioned that one could merely eat 5kgs of broccoli. Of course that's trivially easy and he could absolute do it without any difficult, but he would never dream of betting that he could.

Assani, IIRC, was talking about just eating bags of frozen veggies (including broccoli) to fill you up while cutting. Some of the bags he ate were 3lb bags.
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07-15-2018 , 11:28 AM
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The force through your leg running is probably greater than light squats. Possibly an issue with a small muscle somewhere
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I tried wrapping my leg in different places and right above the knee did the trick. Instead of feeling the pain throughout my quads, I could isolate the pain to my sartosis muscle. I stretched it a bit yesterday and now I only feel pain when raising my knee.
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07-15-2018 , 04:34 PM
Guinness and a barbecue seems to a very good post workout routine.
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07-16-2018 , 12:20 PM
Can someone remind me / anyone remember who here did like a 2-5 day fast and logged the protocol? I remember talking to this person (well, asking questions in his log), but my google-fu is failing me in my advanced age.
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07-16-2018 , 01:12 PM
Not eating for five days sounds complicated. I'll pass on that like LeBron James.
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07-16-2018 , 01:41 PM
I did that when I was at my fattest. After 48 hours it was not that difficult tbh. Even after a week I felt like I could've gone on for a lot longer but I had some things to do. Probably varies drastically for nonfats, I'm still by no means skinny but doubt I could do it now.
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07-16-2018 , 01:48 PM
Fair, but I don't want to look like Monte when he first comes off a cut. It's insensitive to actually starving people.
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07-16-2018 , 01:55 PM
I'm not really motivated to do anything but get smaller and weaker while maintaining the same waist size and back fat, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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07-16-2018 , 01:58 PM
Really making social scientists question whether everyone really should have a goal.
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07-16-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Can someone remind me / anyone remember who here did like a 2-5 day fast and logged the protocol? I remember talking to this person (well, asking questions in his log), but my google-fu is failing me in my advanced age.
Are you talking about the "lemonade diet"? It's incredibly stupid--I've done it 4 times with great results though (it used to be popular among rock climbers who needed to lose that last deposit of fat to make it to the next level). The last time I failed to make it beyond 4 days but I think my longest was almost 3 weeks. Not sure what this maniac means by not "having the time" to go further, since you literally just don't cook or eat anything. He's right though that after a few days you just stop being hungry. I don't think I ever logged it here.
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07-16-2018 , 03:19 PM
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Are you talking about the "lemonade diet"? It's incredibly stupid--I've done it 4 times with great results though (it used to be popular among rock climbers who needed to lose that last deposit of fat to make it to the next level). The last time I failed to make it beyond 4 days but I think my longest was almost 3 weeks. Not sure what this maniac means by not "having the time" to go further, since you literally just don't cook or eat anything. He's right though that after a few days you just stop being hungry. I don't think I ever logged it here.
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07-16-2018 , 03:21 PM
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LOL definitely made a comment about how it's really easy to get an adequate amount of protein without eating meat. As an example of how easy it is, he mentioned that one could merely eat 5kgs of broccoli. Of course that's trivially easy and he could absolute do it without any difficult, but he would never dream of betting that he could.

Assani, IIRC, was talking about just eating bags of frozen veggies (including broccoli) to fill you up while cutting. Some of the bags he ate were 3lb bags.
Assani did recommend eating a lot of veggie for breakfast:

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Find a vegetable that you like that isn't high in calories(no corn, peas, etc.). Replace your breakfast with massive servings of that vegetable and eat regularly throughout the rest of the day. You'll find yourself much fuller imo.
I think BOBAD was going around back then as well. I think Assani and kidcolon advocated for that. I think KyleB (probably some others) may have advocated for it, but think he was more for the abject misery diet plan.
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07-16-2018 , 03:48 PM
Re: Fasting, it was shamrock:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8...s#post51755125

scroll up and down for what I was talking about. I might do this, because I am approaching 24 hours and why not 48+ imo. I won't post in my log if I die, I'll just be dead.
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07-16-2018 , 07:15 PM
My man Gandhi did 21 day fasts multiple times and he only weighed a buck twenty-five, so I would think a 280lb behemoth could easily make it a few days.
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07-16-2018 , 07:38 PM
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Re: Fasting, it was shamrock:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8...s#post51755125

scroll up and down for what I was talking about. I might do this, because I am approaching 24 hours and why not 48+ imo. I won't post in my log if I die, I'll just be dead.
sup - I think fasting for that long helps most with discipline. It seems as though most of the claims are greater than actual results wrt health benefits. It is much easier when on a cut to realize you're not going to die and you're mostly being a baby when you are craving food.
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07-16-2018 , 08:08 PM
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My man Gandhi did 21 day fasts multiple times and he only weighed a buck twenty-five, so I would think a 280lb behemoth could easily make it a few days.
But how much did he squat?
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07-16-2018 , 08:29 PM
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But how much did he squat?
More than loco.
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07-16-2018 , 08:32 PM
It was Assani! Just found the post. So that's 400g of broccoli for breakfast! I love broccoli and could easily do 200g but 400g seems like a lot. Probably have more chance of doing it than 2 cans of tuna though. Plus no mercury poisoning! Win, win!

DT,

Definitely do the fast. After you confirm you aren't dead from it I'll give it a go.


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Heres the basic diet plan I've been on, as I've added strength and lost 15+ lbs in the past 4 months:


Eat 5 servings of broccoli for breakfast(125 calories, over 75% of your daily fiber): Fiber keeps you full throughout the day, which is obviously great when trying to lose weight. Loading up on fiber at breakfast makes it easier to wait longer before lunch and keep calories down.

Eat 5 servings of chicken breast for lunch(500 calories, 100g protein): Gets your daily protein requirements in, low calories.


Then figure out your daily caloric needs(if you start SS, I'd advise you to eat around 2000 per day which means you have 1375 calories you can eat) and eat those calories in a sensible manner(i.e. not loads of candy and snacks), but allow yourself to eat foods that you enjoy and don't worry too much about it as long as your calories are staying under 1375.

Basically I feel like this is a great plan for people who love snacking late at night....you get your fiber/protein taken care of early so you can snack late at night without guilt. 1375 calories is plenty to fill up on foods you like too. Eating that much broccoli and chicken might be tough at first, so if you can't eat that much at once then just save some for later(but don't eat other foods until you've eaten all of your chicken/broccoli). You can substitute fish for chickn whenever you want, and you can substitute spinach, carrots, or cauliflower for broccoli whenever you like.

After you lose some weight and want to get more intense then start to change those 1375 nightly calories into heathier foods.
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07-17-2018 , 03:33 AM
What are you doing to your bodies guys!

jk, go ahead, my smoothies should make me accept anything.

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07-17-2018 , 05:12 AM
Holliday:
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but I had some things to do.
Not the same as:
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Not sure what this maniac means by not "having the time" to go further
Rexx: One meal of all vegetables followed by a meal of all chicken does not sound nearly as good as two meals of chicken and vegetables.
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07-17-2018 , 05:57 AM
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Holliday: Not the same as:


Rexx: One meal of all vegetables followed by a meal of all chicken does not sound nearly as good as two meals of chicken and vegetables.
Oh I agree. I was more thinking eggs and vegetables for breakfast, chicken and vegetables for lunch. Idk though, it was just a thought.
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07-17-2018 , 06:39 AM
A set amount of meat/eggs etc. to hit your protein goal for the day plus unlimited veggies must surely be the easiest way to lose weight. And i dont even consider carbs evil or anything.
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07-17-2018 , 06:56 AM
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A set amount of meat/eggs etc. to hit your protein goal for the day plus unlimited veggies must surely be the easiest way to lose weight. And i dont even consider carbs evil or anything.
You may be speaking the truth.
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07-17-2018 , 11:23 AM
I meant maniac in the nicest way.
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