loco,

I politely disagree. Your understanding of mental illness in general is poor. I'm not going to tell you to STFU, because in my view your posts on this are awful but demonstrate a genuine interest and desire to better understand. And honestly, your cheerleading is often the fire that many of us need.

But I would suggest that on the topic of mental illness, you consider asking questions, listening, and reflecting on the topic rather than posting.

I can only tell you what's helped me when I find myself far outside my lane. Or even inside of it.

I ask myself:

1. Does this need to be said?
2. Does this need to be said right now?
3. Does this need to be said right now by me?

It's resulted in me listening far more often than I hit post.

I suppose it's possible that the entire history she gave was part of a magic show. If that's your position, I suppose that's is tenable.

But if we are operating under the assumption that part was real, then she almost certainly has bipolar disorder. She has seen multiple psychiatrists over the years who all concur with the diagnosis of bipolar. She also has several members who are also afflicted, and the disorder is known to have a genetic predisposition. Putting it all together, it seems far more likely that she has bipolar than she doesn't.

Who do you thing is more likely to be wrong: you or the multiple professionals?

That's fine fakeb. But answer the question, does mlylt need professional help? It's your opinion, spit it out.

In my opinion, is not even close. Her log here is therapy and it's sufficient.

In my opinion, she needs professional help.

Even in the face of superior adversaries, the loc-huahua is tenacious.

Look, if one of the professionals comes on here and tells us it's real, I will believe. But it's easier to fake it than prove it.

Anyways, the whole point here is wether she is better off requiring professional help or being allowed to post here? And it is clear to me that her having a health and fitness log without the requirement of professional help, is much better not just for her but for the forum. And I don't think it's close. She is fine, changing habits of 30 years is facking hard. I respect and I support. These little American kids were brought up on 3k calories of nonfilling food. It takes time to make changes.

The research will eventually come out on mental health. It's very complicated, I understand that. But until I see facking brain scans wirh the affected area you can understand that I am going to see it as excuses. I have seen enough from fakeb and krunic, I believe. But some of these others are fake as fack. Sorry, just an opinion. We badly need a shrink to help and not just voodoo opinion, including mine.

Pretty sure it was just a bro and not a ladybro who was sucking on synbros nipple that night.

loco,

Reasonable people can disagree about whether or not she should be required to seek and maintain mental health treatment as a condition of being allowed to continue to post here; that she needs mental health treatment in general seems impossible to debate. Yet here we are.

That said, I do happen to agree that consistent fitness and orders of magnitude more optimal diet would help her mental state a great deal. But two cans of tuna and daily incline treadmill walks ain't going to cure all that ails her.

So what's your theory here:
1. She never saw any professionals. She just made the whole thing up.
2. She saw professionals. They told her she did not have bipolar or had something else. But she lied and told us she was diagnosed with bipolar.


I think that the log is probably slightly better than nothing. But I'm not sure of that. I can see how someone might think it is worse.

The log is definitely worse that seeing a professional if she could only choose one.

I think that requiring proof of her seeing a professional to post is ridiculous. On that we seem to agree.

It's all part of the show. You fell for it. She is fine and will be fine. It's unfortunate you believe the fantasy stories. She is better off here but with you guys moderating the thread for hateful posts. I miss thremp but his toxic posts are not missed.

When you say it's all part of the show, is it #1 or #2. Just spit it out.

loco,

If she's been lying about being diagnosed with BPD and this is all some combination of attention whoring and performance autistry, then that's not actually better re: her status on this forum; I'd probably just perma her right now if I had evidence that was actually the case. But, as usual, I'm pretty sure this is just you doing what you always do and refusing to concede when you've said something ridiculous based only on your feelings and what your life experience tells you must be true.

Loco,

M needs professional mental health help for years. Her life will be much much better if she manages to get consistent therapy.

Bipolar has been diagnosed according to herself. She has a family history of that. She didn't take the prescribed medication regularly like it should be. She cancelled therapists because they all were telling her that code is not good for her. Basically she neglected taking any care of her mental health. To push her this direction is to actually really care about her and her daughter.

#2

She saw saw professionals and they told her she had bipolar tendencies and that it was up to her to ask for medication because they don't know what the fack they are doing.

I am not coming from left field. I am on second. My shrink told me I would be fine but if I needed help that he could prescribe drugs. What the fack?! They just clicking buttons. The brain is so complicated, we at 20% of understanding but exercise fixes 90% of issues. Get on the facking wheel, mice actually run on wheels for fun!!! When you on the Netflix eating ice cream all day of course the depression sets in.

Monte,

I agree. If this is fake, that is its own problem.

I don't know what I think about the conditions on her posting. I don't envy anyone being in a position where the question of whether they're enabling her simply by letting her post is a legitimate question to ask themselves. I'm just a poster ITT, so it's easy for me to recognize it's not healthy for me to interact with her or read her stuff and just put her on ignore.

I really do care about her. I don't know what the answer is. Just that I believe she is worthy of being healthy and whole, and I support whatever road brings her there.

Like I said, it is a tenable position to think that she is lying. However, this specific narrative is a little inconsistent with what you said earlier:

Now you're saying:

Why would you believe, if you don't think they know what they are doing?

Melk,

You must be new here.

Loco,

M claims that she was diagnosed with bipolar. Bipolar is very well treatable with medication. I and a bunch of other people believe that she has BPD= borderline personality disorder=/=Bipolar. She vehemently denies it because that is not treatable with medication and only with long and persistent therapy. Basically if she has BPD and not bipolar, you are kind of right. It is chosen way of life and is super difficult to change. She has to want it.

But I wouldn't dare to diagnose if she has BPD or bipolar or some combo with something else. The only thing that is obvious, is that something is wrong.

well-played, sir

We obviously know how the health and fitness world works. Sometimes it's hard to differentiate between taubes and Aragon. Especially when you are a donk. So you can imagine how complicated mental health can be. Especially when we at 20% at understanding mental health. We mostly fine, just need to get on that wheel and spin that shiet.

Well I am of the opinion that the only thing wrong is her sitting on the couch eating cheese and crackers. I apologize if I am wrong.

loco,

Do you think you could answer this one when you get a moment?

Because obviously their opinion is going to be more valuable than Aidan's!! Where is Aidan coming from?

Damn loco. I agree with way more of what you say than I disagree with, in general and also on this topic. I know that you are wrong about some things you say as a point of fact, not just opinion, as do probably most people here because you state every thought you have, as informed as it often is, as gospel and it is not as universal as you claim.

On this, yeah I went severe mental issues also (prolly fake?), yeah exercise helped me a great deal and continues to, yeah I had button pushing doctors who were clearly hacks and made things worse. But dude, as much as I agree with all of that you have a lot of nerve claiming you are cured when it is clear as ****ing day you are in a constant battle like anyone else. Your posting betrays it no matter how wonderful the highlights are. I am not saying this to be a dick, but out-running **** is a short term strategy, brother. There is no ribbon to break retiring rich at a magic finish line and leaving it all behind.

Again, I’m only saying this because you are claiming a magic cure. I know you want it to be true, I wish it was also.