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08-18-2009 , 04:23 PM
eh. rewatching the videos I think I mistake head up for chest up ;/
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08-18-2009 , 04:27 PM
That happens a lot. When the chest comes up properly the slack comes out of the arms immediately. It's easy to feel once you get it right.
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08-18-2009 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NameOnTheCake
eh. rewatching the videos I think I mistake head up for chest up ;/
I do this too, I think it's partially because of my longer wingspan (6' tall but 6'5''ish span) and when I tried to dl 255 last week my back told me very quickly I was doing it wrong
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08-18-2009 , 10:07 PM
Squat:
3x5x230

Press:
3x5x120

PC:
2x3x120 I only did a couple of sets b/c I wanted to work on deads

So I decided to do a bunch of singles. I think they look better, but I'll defer to the experts. I put a couple of weights in front of my bumpers so I wouldn't go forward. This had the effect of forcing me way back, which got my shoulders back more, which I think helped my whole position. It was awkward though, and I ended up stumbling back on one of my reps at 185.

Actually, looking again I can't even tell if these are better

There is some definite mirror watching going on. Sue me :/

Deads:
4x1x135
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2IzqlIqhIc

3x1x185
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQwvLDl5e8

3x1x225
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEe0HsyNM4

thoughts?
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08-19-2009 , 02:30 AM
135 was great. As the weight got heavier, you started to round the upper back. Your head pulls up but your chest stays round.

Still, there's progress.
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08-19-2009 , 05:07 PM
My normal progression would be to do 270 on Thursday. However, these videos indicate that I'm struggling with anything >135. Anyone have suggestions as to what I should be lifting? My gut says 225 or so, but I don't know. It seems rediculous to go down to 150 or something.
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08-19-2009 , 05:09 PM
Personally, I think the form is getting a lot better, even if there are questions. As I said, your form started to break down around 225, but it was still markedly better than your previous videos.

Try 225 and take more video. Don't jerk/pull your head up - that's what's causing you to think your back is in extension.
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08-19-2009 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NameOnTheCake
My normal progression would be to do 270 on Thursday. However, these videos indicate that I'm struggling with anything >135. Anyone have suggestions as to what I should be lifting? My gut says 225 or so, but I don't know. It seems rediculous to go down to 150 or something.
Did you do the drill? That drill was the answer to all my lower back issues with deadlifting.
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08-19-2009 , 08:42 PM
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Personally, I think the form is getting a lot better, even if there are questions. As I said, your form started to break down around 225, but it was still markedly better than your previous videos.

Try 225 and take more video. Don't jerk/pull your head up - that's what's causing you to think your back is in extension.
bolded is good and really helped me out this morning, I remember hearing Rippetoe tell it repeatedly to one guy in the SS dvd. try to look straight forward, not strained neck. If you find yourself looking at the ceiling I think you're probably doing something wrong.
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08-22-2009 , 11:04 AM
workout from 8/20

Squat:
3x5x235
not super hard. I'm like 90% sure it's actually 245 due to a heavier bar, but I still haven't drug the thing upstairs to the scale to figure it out.

Bench:
3x5x180
I really tried to focus on bridging my lower back like Miles suggested. I think they look better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DshUWw1jLyk

Deads:
I just did a bunch of random stuff. Mixed results, the videos look okay, but I think again it's only b/c of the light weight. I 100% understand what I'm doing wrong now, which is good, but I still can't really get my body to do it. Getting my head in the correct position though is definitely a step in the right direction.

It seems like, in order for me to actually get my shoulders behind the bar and my lower back in extension, I have to really drop my ass and make my back much more of a straight up and down situation. I'm sure this is wrong. Also, when I really lean back like that I am honestly in danger of falling over backward. LOL unathleticaments. Anyway, videos

3x1x135
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUOSGeWF0ss

3x1x185
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LpdJig6wuE
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08-22-2009 , 11:14 AM
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Did you do the drill? That drill was the answer to all my lower back issues with deadlifting.
Hi Parlay, could you be a little more specific? Are you talking about supermans? Skimming through the squat section I didn't see any drills per se, but I could have easily missed it.
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08-22-2009 , 11:48 AM
the drill where you lay on your stomach and put your hands behind your head and lift your legs up and lock in your back
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08-22-2009 , 01:01 PM
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the drill where you lay on your stomach and put your hands behind your head and lift your legs up and lock in your back
ahh okay yeah, what I was calling supermans. Yeah I've done those. I know the muscles I need to engage, it's just a matter of being strong/flexible enough to do it bent over a bar

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08-22-2009 , 04:38 PM
today
squat:
3x5x240

press:
3x5x125
easier than I was expecting, which probably means my form is rubbish. I'll video next time

PC:
5x3x125
will also tape these next time
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08-26-2009 , 01:08 PM
From yesterday

Squat
3x5x245
heavy ass squats brah. Felt pretty good actually, Thursday will be a PR

Bench
3x5x185
ez...Thursday will be an SS 5 rep PR

Deads:
1x5x260

[x]back not in extension in deadlifts

fml, etc. Will post videos after work
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08-26-2009 , 08:54 PM
those look better
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08-26-2009 , 09:07 PM
thanks, it's coming I guess. back is still not in the correct position on the heavy ones though
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08-27-2009 , 01:57 AM
I hear Kevin Gregg doesn't keep his chest up when he does deads

Don't be Kevin Gregg imo
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08-27-2009 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
135 was great. As the weight got heavier, you started to round the upper back. Your head pulls up but your chest stays round.

Still, there's progress.
It seems he only got his back arched and into a better position because he moved his hips though?
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08-27-2009 , 07:15 PM
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I hear Kevin Gregg doesn't keep his chest up when he does deads

Don't be Kevin Gregg imo
most helpful reply in the thread, ty!

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Originally Posted by Jay.
It seems he only got his back arched and into a better position because he moved his hips though?
probably...but proper (or closer to proper) back position seems more important from an injury prevention standpoint than hip position to me. I could certainly be wrong though :{

My brain is trying to trick me into missing my workout tonight :/
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08-27-2009 , 10:24 PM
Tonight

squat
3x5x250 (pr)
yay. had to use grunt powers on the last rep of the third set

press 3x5x130
I'm no myles dyson but I'm pretty happy w/my progress. Form probably blows, I dunno. Can't wait to try the big boy plates on Tuesday. Probably I will have to start micro loading after that
Back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abtw__0stwM
Side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562T4SrNGsg
I get hillariously off balance after the first rep of the second video but recover okay. I could probably get the bar back behind my head more, and I think I saw a wee bit of knee bounce on the last rep. Oh well

I was running late and feeling pretty good about myself so I said fk PC's and just decided to do some light dead lifts. I was trying to just kind of attack the bar like I've seen in a lot of the videos rather than doing a slow ass set up like I usually do. I dunno. The weight is light so these probably don't mean much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CIOO0fNBCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYylIaA56M4

I just ate a bag of jelly beans and drank a huge ass gatorade...gotta get those carbs post workout amirite??
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08-27-2009 , 10:28 PM
130 is pretty damn impressive
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08-27-2009 , 10:35 PM
Goodstuff notc.

DL form is a lot better. Look to maintain that back and core tightness as you go heavier. Continue doing core work (you and dero had similar issues.) As you go on, you should work on increasing awareness of the position of your back in space (i.e. proprioception). This is where I slightly disagree with riptoe's ban on using mirrors (which is well-founded in general).
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08-27-2009 , 11:32 PM
you're using a little knee bend on the first rep on your press and taking too long to get under the bar on the way up. the best way i've figured out how to fix this is to look down at the floor maybe 10 feet in front of you for the duration of the exercise. your head will bob right back down where it was as soon as it can get past the bar. it really feels like it's added weight to my press.

it's also a little unclear where you're breathing. i'm pretty sure you're "bouncing" the bar, which has you breathing at the top, but you kind of pump through the reps one after the other. normally when breathing at the top, lockout lasts a second while you breath deep and hold it before you start dropping the weight for the next rep. you also seem to slow the bar down quite a bit before it finally hits your chest. this limits the help you can get from the stretch reflex at the bottom.

here's a video of my friend pressing using the bounce method for a visual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByYpqpnVgew - notice how he holds the bar overhead between reps and gets more of a bounce at the bottom. he should be getting his breath in while the bar is still overhead, but you can see how he gets it and holds it before the bar is halfway down. his right elbow is messed up and he can't get it straight up and down fwiw (he can't touch his right shoulder with his right hand).
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