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Old 10-19-2021, 04:22 PM   #8826
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Re: Monte's Log, Featuring a Debate About Dotard Genetic Potential with an Ant

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I used to do steady state like that - 90' 3-4 times a week at 2:10-2:15 working like hell to keep my MHR below 140. I have no idea what's actually optimal for me, but TG's opinion is that HR is so personal (and it's really just a proxy for lactate threshold) that perceived effort is a better guide. I would like for my mean HR for UT2 to get back down to where it used to be at these intensities (maxing out at low to mid 160s) and then try to slowly increase pace.
This is v informative. ty.
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:36 PM   #8827
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Re: Monte's Log, Featuring a Debate About Dotard Genetic Potential with an Ant

No problem!

10/19
UT3 - 30'
6672m/2:14.8/13.4 spm/131 HR/149 MHR

I need to tape over the HR reading on my PM5, because every time I glance at it, it goes up 5+ BPM. White coat syndrome extending to my own house is kind of annoying.
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:45 PM   #8828
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I used to do steady state like that - 90' 3-4 times a week at 2:10-2:15 working like hell to keep my MHR below 140. I have no idea what's actually optimal for me, but TG's opinion is that HR is so personal (and it's really just a proxy for lactate threshold) that perceived effort is a better guide. I would like for my mean HR for UT2 to get back down to where it used to be at these intensities (maxing out at low to mid 160s) and then try to slowly increase pace.
this is reassuring, as it's what/how I currently feel and I think as long as I feel recovered and fresh for my next sessions, then maybe it's ok. IDK - I'll trial different things in my offseason, I guess. I know my default approach has always been to go hard most of the time so I'm open to ramping it back a little and seeing if it helps recovery/performance
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9/17
TR - 4x3'/6'r @115 df
3306m/1:48.8/25.8 spm/185 HR/191 MHR
r9972m (15' warmup + 24' rest + 5' cooldown)
3'_1: 818m/1:50.0/24 spm/176 MHR
3'_2: 824m/1:49.2/25 spm/185 MHR
3'_3: 830m/1:48.4/26 spm/187 MHR
3'_4: 835m/1:47.7/28 spm/191 MHR
10/20
TR - 5x3'/6'r @115 df
4159m/1:48.1/26.1 spm/191 MHR
3'_1: 820m/1:49.7/24 spm/177 HR
3'_2: 827m/1:48.8/25 spm/185 HR
3'_3: 831m/1:48.3/26 spm/187 HR
3'_4: 839m/1:47.2/27 spm/189 HR
3'_5: 842m/1:46.8/28 spm/188 HR
14543m (21' warmup + 30' interval paddle + 15' cooldown)

Had 6 intervals programmed, but didn't really have the sixth in me so I just called it after 5. Stepping up from 4 to 5 intervals seems fine enough, and I'll get 6 the next time (I think back during my last phase I got up to 7 intervals, so passing that and getting to 8 can be a medium term goal).
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TR - 5x3'/6'r @115 df
4159m/1:48.1/26.1 spm/191 MHR
3'_1: 820m/1:49.7/24 spm/177 HR
3'_2: 827m/1:48.8/25 spm/185 HR
3'_3: 831m/1:48.3/26 spm/187 HR
3'_4: 839m/1:47.2/27 spm/189 HR
3'_5: 842m/1:46.8/28 spm/188 HR
14543m (21' warmup + 30' interval paddle + 15' cooldown)

Had 6 intervals programmed, but didn't really have the sixth in me so I just called it after 5. Stepping up from 4 to 5 intervals seems fine enough, and I'll get 6 the next time (I think back during my last phase I got up to 7 intervals, so passing that and getting to 8 can be a medium term goal).
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such a big session overall. just looked at your graph and your heart rate doesn't drop much in the 'rest' periods given you're paddling...you must be totally whacked at the end of these TR days
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Looks too painful. Pass. I would be running way too fast and blow out a calf to hit equivalent heart rate numbers. In fact, only 1 time in a year and a half have I hit those numbers, maybe twice.
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I’m much happier lying on my back with my feet elevated between intervals to get my hr down.

No way I’m intestinally tough enough to keep rowing in between
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Thanks guys. I've never tried laying down in between pieces, but TG wants you to keep moving in between intervals, so taking a drink and then just paddling lightly (albeit at heavy drag) seems easier than getting up and shaking out my legs for six minutes. Plus I'm a meters whore.

Checked my HR numbers from last March's 7x3'/6'r and remembered my HRM went on the fritz during that one, so no useable data. However, the 6x3'/6'r from a few weeks before had me topping out at 182ish going faster than I went today, so it's pretty clear I'm still a bit below where I was fitness-wise.

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Warmup - 20'

LD18 (TR) - 6x3'/6'r
18:00.0/5046m/1:47.0/26 spm/178 HR/184 MHR
3'_1: 827m/1:48.8/24 spm/170 HR
3'_2: 835m/1:47.7/25 spm/176 HR
3'_3: 839m/1:47.2/26 spm/178 HR
3'_4: 844m/1:46.6/26 spm/181 HR
3'_5: 849m/1:46.0/27 spm/181 HR
3'_6: 853m/1:45.5/28 spm/182 HR
Feels like keeping the pace for the first five intervals roughly the same, adding a sixth, and hoping for mild HR improvement is the play. This piece is next programmed for LD18, so ~2 weeks.
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