8/18
C2 Row: 24:00/5652 m (2/3/4/3/2 minute pyramid/2 min light row)

Felt pretty bad this morning, but powered through. All work intervals under a 2 minute pace.

I'll be logging days of no dessert from now on. Last night was . . . not great.

8/19

C2 Row: 17:43/4208 m (6x500 m intervals/1 min easy)

A
Barbell Bench: wu, 175x8x4
Pullups (bw): 2x8, 2x6

B
DB Incline Bench: 40s x12x4
Facepulls: 4x12

C
Machine Chest Press: 4x10

D
Machine Fly: 4x12

Rowed this morning before work, then had a journey of self discovery during my lunchtime session while on the pull-up bar as to why they were harder this time. Decided to cut the supersetted pulling down a bit given the rowing volume.

Still not quite sure what an EVgoodlife routine is actually going to look like, but it's probably going to involve a lot of arms. We'll see how things evolve.

8/20
Walk: 15:00/1.0 mi

Plus eight sets of bis and eight of tris. Was going to row an easy piece, but I'm lifting at a new Y branch by work and they were moved upstairs for a class or something. Probably better to have a day off.

8/21

A
Incline Bench: 125x8x4
Lat Pulldown: 4x12
Facepulls: 4x12

B
Arnold Press: 4x10
Cable Row: 4x12

Still trying to figure out what things are going to look like; 45 minutes of actual lifting seems to be the limit for what we can squeeze in, so sessions aren't going to be quite as involved. I imagine this'll morph into some abbreviated PPL in six weeks or so, but I don't want to completely break my buddy yet.

How many days a week you shooting for?

JT,

5-6 days I think.

8/22
C2 Row: 20:00/4700 m (3 minutes on/2 min easy)

CGBP: 155x8x4
DB Hammer: 4x12
Skullcrushers: 4x12
Bayesian Curls: 4x12

Reasonably k.

If you are looking to test a good life program and can do 45-60 minutes 5-6 times a week I really, really love this one. I got stronger and leaner on it when i was being consistent and serious about progressive overload. I'm doing a summer maintenance/backslide version of it currently.

Thanks.

Gave d1 a shot today; I'll run it for a few weeks and see how it goes. #teamnolegs

8/24

FS: 135x6, 145x6, 155x6, x2, x1
Bench: 185x6x2, 185x6, x3, x2
Lateral Cable Raise: x6, x6, (x6, x8, x10)
DB Skullcrushers: x6, x6, x8

C2 Row: 15:41/3641 m (500 m row/2 minutes easy)

Rest pause on the last set for squat and bench, and drop sets for the cables. FPS for sure, but kind of fun and not at all mentally fatiguing. thisismylifenow.n1.txt

8/26

Leg Curl: x8x2, (x8, x10, x12)
DB Pullover: 3x8
Machine Row: x8x2, (x8, x10, x12)
EZ Curl: 3x8

C2 Row: 24:00/5618 m (4 min row/2 minutes easy)

The workout portion, such as it was, was pretty easy, so I had time for a bit of a longer row. I was able to maintain a better than two minute pace for the first three four minutes legs, but I ran out of gas on the fourth one and innerEV'd my way to 960ish meters (though I still was barely better than a two minute pace for the cumulative 16 block of work rowing, so that was k).

Christian must have been trolling natties when he wrote that day.

It's actually the opposite, that's a wonderful workout for a guy on 1g of test and a fifty pence of dbol.

Thibs is pretty much a loltard. He wrote this as well: https://www.t-nation.com/training/no...-typing-system

Basically he eschews most of the common knowledge regarding program creation to add in weird stuff that doesn't make sense. Like Myoreps, which are fine and great for BBing and saving time. But at the same time he then applies this same logic to the "Heavy Double" which Borge is pretty anti. (IE Doing that for an RDL is very ****ing dumb and something Borge has explicitly come out against, since he advocates for single joint, higher rep very clearly.)

I mean... why am I writing this? People do it because they think its cool, and it stops them from jackassing around too much between sets by using techniques to boost the volume/intensity of "single" sets via clustering. Will it work? Sure. Do people who actually ever succeed at getting strong do stuff like this? No. And there are a bunch of underlying reasons why.

tl;dr: lol @ reccing a thibs program anytime anywhere. T-nation smh. Paging Emoken.

It’s not a maximal strength focused program. It won’t help you win the CrossFit games or qualify for the Boston either.

It did help me go from single repping to 4 repping DM’s current press PR though, so yes it will help you get stronger, even while you are not specifically training for one or two lifts as your focus.

Instead of paging a strong and muscular guy you know, why not just apply your knowledge and go get strong and muscular, DM? You probably do know a more optimal program to get strong. Go ****ing do it already. You just don’t feel like it?

Also, I flat didn’t like some of the suggested selections as written including the heavy double rdl etc.and didn’t find the “mTor” technique applicable in some of the places it’s recommended. It’s more of a split than an actual program imo.

I think everyone who knows a little about lifting understands this is not a program that will get you optimal strength. I have toyed with going on a strength program or trying some real training to see if I can get a high total, but everyone I know who does that is hurt eventually and I don’t want to be hurt or tell people how much I can lift. I want to stay healthy, look like I lift and be stronger than a civilian.

Bro split worked pretty well for me. Full body didn’t and was miserable. This one ticked every box.

JT,

I'm actually pretty strong. Most people would consider my Oly lifts 89/105 pretty decent. Granted most people who descend in the rabbit hole of Olytarding are way in the game, so I'm generally the shittiest quasi-full timer to do these in basically any gym I've attended. I guess the conversion of my FS to LBBS at 38x is kind of okay as well. Obviously I couldn't LBBS 38x in much the same way asking someone who can LBBS 38x to FS 130 isn't happening either.

Then again I guess this is the joy of Olytarding. Random n00bs don't bother to do math or have any concept of how "good" weird lifts are. But I take solace in the fact that I'll prob never be any good at Olytarding and just happy to grind it out as I'm blissfully aging into masters.

However, if you're gonna start to excessively customize a program instead of doing it as written. Why would you ever do it with a weird Thibs program, who is widely mocked as a moron instead of something like 531 which has huge amounts of literature on potential subs/alteration/etc. Do you just make random changes? Are you an expert on programming and expect Monte to be as well where he can make changes that improve the program, which you implicitly think is a shitty framework?!? Basically Thibs writes for idiots and idiots use his programs, because he apparently can't make any real difference in the industry and this is how he can get his $50 e-books sold.

Also kinda weird to say you don't wanna tell people how much you lift after you just explained how much you can lift in the prior post.

Glad you got strong tho. Sad you take so much personal stake in someone criticizing specific elements of a lifting program with broad "it made me stronger than you at one specific lift" as if that is relevant.

DM,

Pay attention.

I’m happy to tell you that I’m stronger than you as a rebuttal to you staying “you can’t get strong by doing this program”. I don’t want to explain to people that I know or meet that while I look skinny fat or fat fat I can lift this many lbs. When the average person asks how much I deadlift they don’t hear any difference between 225 and 365, really. Certainly not 365 and 435. And absolutely not 435 or 455. The mistake many of you program spergers make is contending that optimal programming for strength gains is necessary to make good gains. Really, a program that keeps you coming in and engaged and performing with proper intensity far outweighs that when it comes to real world results.

And why I chose this program over a more traditional strength template is I’m not a program slut. I don’t lift with the same reward centers as you do. I admire what guys like you and Monte and Renton do with your programming, but the hobby is more of an escape from thinking for me. I like getting into my body and feeling it. I like going past failure. I like the pump and the challenge of each rep in the moment. I like wondering how strong I am going to be at the beginning of a set and finding out because I’m not stopping with reps in the tank—I don’t like thinking about that ****. I like that it either goes up or doesn’t. All that is more rewarding than adding 5% or whatever to my pr if I can stay on program for the whole block without those elements to keep me engaged.

I am fully aware that a better program, **** even a mediocre program, would get me better results for my numbers, but not for my enjoyment and also probably not for injury avoidance if I’m going to chase big numbers. And, like you, my big numbers would be small anyway. I’d rather be a faster guy on a slow motorcycle than a slow guy on a big fast motorcycle.

I didn’t suggest this split to Monte because I think it is superior to what your friends do in the gym. It’s because he is reevaluating his goals and durability and he may enjoy the same things I do if he tries it.

JT,

Don't think I ever stated that (whatever straw man you're conjuring up now). Plenty of people get and stay strong with weird programming. If you have prefaced your post with "This is a shitty program where you do weird stuff which you may like if you can't muster the energy to lift things in a coordinated fashion to achieve any arbitrary goal more quickly." I doubt anyone would mind. But as long as you acknowledge its a shitty program. Think we pretty k.

Also, I do enjoy the retcon on your claims of talking about your strength. Weird bro. But I guess thinking good isn't your strong suit.

PS: lmk if I need to add in some weird logical fallacies or vulgarities for you to comprehend this better.

This conversation was so AIDSy it inspired me to Frankenstein together a PPL template, so many thanks.

8/27: W1D1
Bench: wu, 195x4x4
Standing DB Press: 25s x12x4
Lying Low Incline Cable Flies: 3x15
Dips (bw): 3x12
Cable Lateral Raise: 4x12
Rope Tri: 4x15

45 minutes, pretty easy, as everything was light. Rested two minutes between bench work sets and 60-90 seconds for everything else. Planned on seated DB press, but the seat was taken, so improvisation and whatnot.

I mean, I get all of your weak-ass dipshit-fu that you revel in, but dude, you really gotta stop forgetting the trash you spew within days of it coming out of your head as long as scroll wheels exist.

JT,

It seems you are an actual idiot. If you honestly think that what I said is what you then translated it to, k?

My point has been made. If you would like basic English lessons in addition to basic logic lessons, we can move your idiocy to my log where you can explain how probability magically goes up if thing, but relatively doesn't go down absent thing along with how you apparently can't read. (Which would explain the former weirdly.)

Now that I broke the bot I’m going back to lurking. Sorry for ****ing up your thread and forum, Monte.

8/28: W1D2
Pullups (bw): 3x8
Meadows Rows: 3x10
Lat Pulldown: 3x12
Facepulls: 4x12
EZ Curl: 3x10
Seated Incline Curls: 3x15

45 minutes. Also walked to/from work, so three miles there.

Are you still able to get these workouts in during lunch or have you had to change your schedule?

Melk,

Yeah. Trying to keep the actual gym time to 45-60 minutes, though.

8/29: W1D3
Squat: wu, 205x5x3
RDLs: 185x8x3
Leg Ext: 3x10
Leg Curl: 3x10

45 minutes. Squat RPE was pretty low, but hip felt good, so that's a positive.

9/3: W1D4
OHP: wu, 95x8x4
CGBP: 155x8x3
DB Incline Fly: 3x12
Skullcrushers: 3x12
Rope Upright Row: 3x12
Overhead Rope Tri: 3x12

45 minutes.

Got sick, so took the weekend off. Did hike for 2.5 hours with the family on Monday, though.