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04-14-2017 , 06:44 PM

#5601

Donat3llo

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Yeah, was wondering about the push press. 150 is pretty darn decent for over your head.

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04-14-2017 , 07:02 PM

#5602

Montecore

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Yeah, I guess. I think my all time PR is 157.5x5 when I was still DT-fat, so there's still a little bit of growth possible, maybe. A bodyweight press is kind of the ultimate pie in the sky goal, but that's a ways away, if it ever happens at all.

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04-14-2017 , 08:34 PM

#5603

BustoRhymes

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Good work. "Looking forward to squatting" is a beautiful phrase

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04-14-2017 , 10:47 PM

#5604

Donat3llo

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Originally Posted by Montecore

Yeah I meant given your BW, 150 is decent.

I'm still around a plate for ohp, but bench and OHP are my weakest lifts by far.

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04-15-2017 , 01:47 AM

#5605

rAv

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What's press 2.0? Is that the hip thrust thing?

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04-15-2017 , 09:09 AM

#5606

Montecore

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4/15: 185.8

A
5/3/1 Squat: wu, 3x170, 3x190, 13x215, 2x235, 2x255, 11x205, 13x180
Pullups: 5x5x+35

B
Leg Press: 5x10x290
Calf Raise on Leg Press: 5x12x290
Single Arm Lat Pulldown: 6x15

C
DB Bulgarian SS: 4x8x25
Spider Curl: 4x10

Nice session. Wanted 15 in the AMRAP but ran out of gas a bit plus I wanted a bit in the tank for the rest of the sets. My phone died, so I'll have to figure out how to get the videos from the kindle to youtube, but bar path looked pretty good.

Planned to ramp the weight in pull ups, but they felt heavy so I just did five across. Everything else tough but fine.

Now the kid's soccer game.

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04-15-2017 , 06:41 PM

#5607

Montecore

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04-15-2017 , 06:47 PM

#5608

BustoRhymes

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that WIM

Last few reps were a little loose but powerful. Standard imo at the end of an AMRAP.

255 looked good.

What's your 1RM PR? Just wondering how soon in advance I need to buy the popcorn because it appears squat PRs are incoming.

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04-15-2017 , 06:49 PM

#5609

BookToMarket

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grunching here but have you gotten stronger? I certainly haven't.

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04-15-2017 , 06:54 PM

#5610

Montecore

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fakeb,

Somehow I haven't ever squatted 3 wheels, although at my fattest I'm pretty sure I did something along the lines of 3x5x270 with questionable form and depth. Plan is to try for 285 next Friday after my AMRAP, but what that means my "true" 1RM is is anyone's guess.

BTM,

Maybe? Less fat for sure. New nudes a page or so back.

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04-15-2017 , 07:46 PM

#5611

BustoRhymes

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You have 285 for sure. 255x2 was very fast both reps. It looks like an easy 5rm, though I understand that it's hard to say what your true 5+rm sets are when you're cutting and don't have the energy stores necessary for glycogen dependent sets at a higher intensity. Good things will come now that you are eating for maintenance.

If 285x1 flies up, will you keep going until it feels like @10? Does your programming ever have you test for true maxes?

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04-15-2017 , 07:55 PM

#5612

Montecore

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I'm just half assing the high volume 5/3/1 split and adding a lot of assistance work, so not really. I was just saying before that I'm not sure whatever it is I manage to hit on Friday is a "true" 1RM because I typically wouldn't be throwing up a 12 ball at 230 before trying to hit it, but if 285 goes up quickly, I'll probably try for more. Just kind of taking it by feel.

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04-15-2017 , 08:14 PM

#5613

BustoRhymes

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Gotcha. Well it will be interesting to see the results. It's nothing you don't know, but the effort required for an AMRAP is so different than what's done for a max single. No big deal if you are not training or testing for a "true" 1RM though when your numbers are going up all over the place anyway. A fatigued 285x1 that's solid will give us an indication of what you could achieve if you were recovered and peaking.

Plus all of this crazy high rep stuff burns a ton of calories, so you can join me in the land of nomzies

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04-15-2017 , 08:15 PM

#5614

BustoRhymes

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Also, awesome that you benched 3 wheels but have never put up the same in squat.

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04-15-2017 , 08:47 PM

#5615

Aidan

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My concern, for someone with prior back injury, is doing volume prior to the top end work. Other way around seems better, no?

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04-15-2017 , 08:58 PM

#5616

kidcolin

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grunching thread but agree. I would maybe even say someone with chronic SI issues shouldn't be AMRAPing.

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04-15-2017 , 09:09 PM

#5617

Montecore

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I'm trying to leave a few reps in the tank . . . what should I be doing instead? Something along the lines of what Aidan's doing (working up to a heavy-ish single or double and then volume work on the back end)?

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04-15-2017 , 09:14 PM

#5618

Aidan

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Just reverse the order of what you're doing - the numbers seem fine just hit the top stuff then back off.

Instead of: 3x170, 3x190, 13x215, 2x235, 2x255, 11x205, 13x180

Try: 3x170, 3x190, 3x215, 2x235, 2x255, 10x215, 11x205, 8x205

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04-16-2017 , 12:22 AM

#5619

Melkerson

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I agree w/ Coach Aidan. I actually have thought your rep progression was kind of weird, but it was clearly working so didn't really see the need to mess around with it.

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04-16-2017 , 12:27 AM

#5620

rAv

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It's how it's layed out in 5/3/1, surely there must be some reasoning behind it?

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04-16-2017 , 12:41 AM

#5621

Aidan

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Maybe its a good general guideline, who knows? AFAIK there is nothing that supports it being better than the other way around though. In this particular case I think Monte going into the top work with a less fatigued core is possibly better for him.

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04-16-2017 , 01:12 AM

#5622

rAv

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Yea that's fair enough.

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04-16-2017 , 07:46 AM

#5623

BPA234

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Agree with Aidan. Form one bad back to another, going hard after pre-fatiguing seems like a bad idea.

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04-16-2017 , 06:14 PM

#5624

Montecore

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Word, thanks all. I'll work up to the heavier sets first and then ramp back down with the AMRAP minus one to two rep sets; obviously need to do it with DL too, but I might as well do it for all the lifts so I can get some idea of what my near 1RM lifts actually are.