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Monte's three count is more 1-2-3 than 1 one thousand-2 one thousand-3 one thousand. So yes, it is not a real three count. But I figure Weasel is saying it's okay because the training stimulus from the three count afaict comes from increasing the length of your pause compared to your normal competition pause. And in that regard, Monte's "3 count" is significantly longer than his normal pause.

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03-24-2015 , 04:36 PM

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Yeah, I was just going with the consensus, and was sufficiently cowed by KC chastising someone else that "of course a three count isn't one thousand-one/two/three you aaaaaah taaaaaahd" that I just figured I'd go along to get along.

But it's great to see that I've angered someone that doesn't even lift anymore; nice to see that my log has that kind of REACH and IMPACT.

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03-24-2015 , 04:37 PM

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Aidan

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its a three count, not a three second, pause.

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03-24-2015 , 04:40 PM

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Weasel45

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Loco,

You are being ridiculous. That vid you posted is like a 5 count.

From Mike T Directly

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03-24-2015 , 04:40 PM

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Aidan

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I seem to recall your bench form being a bit tidier too. You don't look all that tight.

The other thing I like to focus on when doing 3 count benching is really controlling the bar on the last 2-3" of the downward motion, just a bit more work on the weakest part of the ROM. Don't control it down and then let it go towards the bottom.

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03-24-2015 , 04:42 PM

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Miket has a inspired a generation of natty lifters. All these youtube young guns rip off his programming. The man is a living legend and has big balls. He has my respect.

Would like to know if the fake three count is coming from him or some 2p2 S&Fers. I honestly don't know and i am just curious.

Real3ct for 4reps sounds awful. Have to breathe after each rep most likely. While 1 or 2 reps can be done with one breath.

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03-24-2015 , 04:44 PM

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Loco,

You are being ridiculous. That vid you posted is like a 5 count.

From Mike T Directly

Wat. The video says 3ct. Did you time it and it's 5s? I didn't time, it looks like 3s though.

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03-24-2015 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aidan

I seem to recall your bench form being a bit tidier too. You don't look all that tight.

You're right; I need to work on this.

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The other thing I like to focus on when doing 3 count benching is really controlling the bar on the last 2-3" of the downward motion, just a bit more work on the weakest part of the ROM. Don't control it down and then let it go towards the bottom.

I was trying to do this, but I agree that I'm not doing it enough. I'll concentrate/exaggerate it next time and we'll see how it looks.

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03-24-2015 , 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Weasel45

Loco,

You are being ridiculous. That vid you posted is like a 5 count.

From Mike T Directly

I just pulled up a few videos on youtube to see what the consensus was; looking back at my lifts, maybe I could go a bit longer, since I don't think I was quite to two seconds, but I don't think it's super important regardless since I'm not really trying to be a powerlifter?

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03-24-2015 , 04:52 PM

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It's not a big deal. Loco is just jumping on minutia as usual.

Loco,

I just timed Mike Ts pause and it was like 4 seconds

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03-24-2015 , 04:53 PM

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Monte's pauses last 1.5-2 seconds, not 2.5-3 seconds. I think that's loco's point about whether they should be called a 3 ct.

Which again shouldn't take away from the benefit of the lift or how happy I am to see Monte training.

I really don't want us nitting it up over how long the pause lasts to take away from the pride I feel seeing Monte take two wheels and hold them against his chest like they are the wifeacore on his wedding night. Though I'm hoping he lasted a little longer with her.

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03-24-2015 , 04:57 PM

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fakeb,

As I recall, we did not have relations on our wedding night, as we were exhausted and fell asleep immediately after getting to our hotel. However, your concern is both noted and appreciated.

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03-24-2015 , 05:12 PM

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This only came up because I was 3ct bench pressing just now and between a break I saw monte's fake 3ct. I am pretty light right now but can hit a 260 tng bench. But there is no way I can hit 235 for a real 3ct. So obviuosly I am like wtf, Monte smashing 3ct bench. What's wrong with me?

And of course I make the realization that S&F (Aidan, weasel, KC, fakeb) doing fake 3ct.

No worries going to pm ab to get that fixed. We will be generous and give all these 1.5s pauses a 2ct designation. Please let's not confuse the newbs guys.

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03-24-2015 , 05:16 PM

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loco,

Can you just send me the amazon link to the metronome that you use to ensure a perfect three count bench every time? Thanks in advance.

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03-24-2015 , 05:16 PM

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yea I made the mistake of thinking 3count meant 3sec as well.. that's why I just go with seconds on mine

those are 1sec pauses u did, monte.

also FACK cj spiller for going to the saints

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03-24-2015 , 05:18 PM

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realb, at least give me the courtesy of 1.5 seconds, and there were a few on some other sets that tended to get closer to 2.

I'm at least gratified that I pause longer than fakeb.

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03-24-2015 , 05:19 PM

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Lately I've taken the approach that I'd rather have a count that lasts too long than a count that didn't last long enough. Not that this always happens in practice. When heavy weight is sitting on your chest, anything longer than one second feels like an eternity.

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03-24-2015 , 05:19 PM

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fine.. the 2nd and 3rd were def closer to 2sec than 1, so you got it.

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03-24-2015 , 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Montecore

I'm at least gratified that I pause longer than fakeb.

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03-24-2015 , 05:21 PM

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My 3 count was one one thousand Two one thousand three one thousand, but sometimes cheated obv.

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03-24-2015 , 05:26 PM

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This conversation is bad and you all should feel bad. I dont want to hear any more complaining about vaccine talk from any of you after this.

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03-24-2015 , 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Montecore

loco,

Can you just send me the amazon link to the metronome that you use to ensure a perfect three count bench every time? Thanks in advance.

Ha. Mike T said that he used to put a stopwatch on his rack so he could get an exact 3 count when he was benching.

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03-24-2015 , 05:32 PM

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busto_in_hawaii

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idk, I agree with loco. can be confusing to say 3count for us people who barely lift because we think it means 3sec.

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03-24-2015 , 05:38 PM

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BustoRhymes

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I agree. If someone said here, have 3 count donuts and then you only got 2.5 donuts, wouldn't you think that was pretty ****ed up?

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03-24-2015 , 05:39 PM

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LOL cryin

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