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MLYLT learns to love herself and changes her life (for real this time!) MLYLT learns to love herself and changes her life (for real this time!)

01-22-2018 , 08:00 PM
MLYLT,

"I copied so many people on my response to her,"

lol
01-22-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I copied so many people on my response to her, wish I could have thought of more people and groups to copy when I sent her the ****ing weather forecast.
You know doing this makes you look bad, right? Nobody at your work wants to be passive-aggressively cc'd on emails between you and your boss that don't concern them. You should just complain and vent about her here where it won't affect what people think of you at work.
01-22-2018 , 08:05 PM
Did you get your "no raise" review yet?
01-22-2018 , 08:07 PM
Actually, please cc me the email. I'm curious how the weather is there? I heard they got or are getting snow in Austin. Have you had any snow there?
01-22-2018 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
You know doing this makes you look bad, right? Nobody at your work wants to be passive-aggressively cc'd on emails between you and your boss that don't concern them. You should just complain and vent about her here where it won't affect what people think of you at work.
Okay, not the best thing to do......it felt so good though.

I also kinda ****ed up and popped off to her in a snarky response via email because I was already pissed at her for lying and trying to put the production manager against me.

Remember how I said she hides information and she has altered data before using the excuse "we want to tell the right story"? Well I reviewed some data and sent my recommendation to the engineering group. She called me and told me not to send data out and that X told her this and that was done. Well, I followed up with him and of course he didn't say that and he replied with what actually happened. So, I privately responded to her
"You see that X responded below with what actually happened. It is best for everyone to have all the information instead of giving different people different bits of false information and causing confusion to accomplish your agenda and avoid actually solving the problem." She immediately called me several times and I didn't answer.
01-22-2018 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Actually, please cc me the email. I'm curious how the weather is there? I heard they got or are getting snow in Austin. Have you had any snow there?
We had snow last week! It was freezing, I could hardly go outside. Oh, and lol Texas....we had Tornado warnings all last night.
01-22-2018 , 08:25 PM
I don't know if your intention is to get sympathy or what, but literally everything you post about your job and your interactions with your boss just makes you look incredibly bad. You're not proving whatever point you think you are about her.
01-22-2018 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by citanul
These are exciting developments.
This. Thread keeps delivering.
01-22-2018 , 08:31 PM
Nope. The meeting this morning was with several people and the Plant Manager(everyone's boss) to go through the $200k cost savings project and everyone's roles and what needs to happen to roll it out. He was extremely excited/impressed and said something about me working on more things like this and that we wouldn't accomplish our initiatives without ideas like this.

He would have the final say on firing me, and I just don't see that happening after I have delivered over and over and my boss has dropped the ball big time recently and made him look bad.
01-22-2018 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Actually, please cc me the email. I'm curious how the weather is there? I heard they got or are getting snow in Austin. Have you had any snow there?
MLYLT,

Definitely post your email response to her (them) here.
01-22-2018 , 09:00 PM
I need to know how to maneuver around her unethical behavior, sociopathic manipulating+lying to people, and her telling me to do pointless task when she doesn't feel like she is in control of me and has to satisfy her need to micromanage me until I can get away from her being my manager?


Cons:
I'm low on the totem pole, not good with politics, and struggle with communication.

Pros:
I can work hard, I'm kinda a finisher...if something has to get done and is given to me there is no question it will be taken care of, I'm smart, efficient.....I can basically do my job well.

So how can I use my pros while avoiding my cons to get through the rest of the time I have to deal with her?
01-22-2018 , 09:07 PM
Do what she says without complaint and come here to ***** about it.
01-22-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Nope. The meeting this morning was with several people and the Plant Manager(everyone's boss) to go through the $200k cost savings project and everyone's roles and what needs to happen to roll it out. He was extremely excited/impressed and said something about me working on more things like this and that we wouldn't accomplish our initiatives without ideas like this.

He would have the final say on firing me, and I just don't see that happening after I have delivered over and over and my boss has dropped the ball big time recently and made him look bad.
I think you're in for a rude awakening.
01-22-2018 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by citanul
M,

I do not want you to be fired because you are a toxic employee, but you are certainly making that future state's arrival sound delicious.
I'm not understanding the first part of the sentence. Are you saying I'm a toxic employee? How so?

I just try to get our of dumb **** to get actual work done.

The things she wants me to do are idiodic.
Examples:
-walk around talking to people about their personal lives at least 2 hrs a day. (She questioned who and when I talked to people and then went and interviewed them to verify)
-had me hang passive aggressive signs in the break room and bathrooms that she dictated. (The HR person responded by putting up a big sign saying things couldn't be hung without HR approval)
-had me remaking forms and announcements in 5 different formats to hang around the plant.
-constantly has me looking up information that would take her less time to look up herself than it takes her to call me to tell me to do it.
-had me printing a bunch of bull****.
-filing papers
-had me send her weather reports.
-made me doing testing and a study that I told her was not correct. I explained to her how it was wrong and she replied with "you can proof it out later, just do it" (The engineering manager later rejected it when he asked to see the results and I had the exact same conversation with him as her)
-had me watching video surveillance for days for no purpose other than a hunch she had.

....there are too many to list
01-22-2018 , 10:10 PM
For the love of God, stop talking about how pointless your assignments are as if it's relevant in any way (even if somehow 100% true).
01-22-2018 , 10:14 PM
When you are posting here you tell us you are days or weeks ahead on your required tasks and have nothing to do.

You were just complaining about doing last week's work still.
01-22-2018 , 10:28 PM
Yes, I was ahead at that time. Now new problems have arose and there are new task to handle and fires to fight. It's a manufacturing and production environment. Some work is steady and planned while a lot is fluctuant.

Just like any job, I do a wide range of different task(including my secretarial duties assigned by my boss). Troubleshooting, assisting production, problem solving, working with customers, working with/assisting sales, testing, data analysis, technical reports, designing equipment for testing, writing procedures, training the floor people on the procedures, managing production floor peoples job responsibilities and work flows, and then my projects I come up with when I get bored.

The first seven with the addition of assignments from other people or groups are fluctuant and the last are planned out.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 01-22-2018 at 10:35 PM.
01-22-2018 , 10:50 PM
Fluctuant?
01-22-2018 , 10:59 PM
MLYLT,

Arisen.

Pretty disappointed you won't post your sweet revenge email
01-22-2018 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by citanul
Is a legit word. Generally means the same thing as fluctuating. Unclear if it has some common use in oil and gas industrial settings.
I don't think he was questioning whether it is a word. It just that using it there, in that context, is awkward.
01-23-2018 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
MLYLT, I've found that I've made the most personal progress at work (salary growth, promotions, increased responsibility) when I stopped worrying about what my boss and employer can do for me, and focused on doing whatever it takes to get the job done well without worrying about who gets credit or what benefit is in it for me.

Seriously, for six months or so focus on anticipating what your boss needs and making her job easier, stop worrying about who gets credit, and see what happens. If things don't improve dramatically find a new job.
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Yeah, I could do this. I over think,complain, and worry way too much.
Thanks. Im going to try to just focus on getting work done and only thinking about positive things and enjoying life.
Welp Two days, one of which was a Sunday...
01-23-2018 , 03:03 AM
MLYLT: Considering how many of your tasks are communication oriented and your self-assessment that you're bad at communication, you need to get serious and honest feedback about how other people view your effectiveness.

The stuff you've been calling politics don't come close to being politics. These "incidents" sound like day to day interaction between employee and manager allocating work. People in this thread have given you tons of benefit of the doubt but you're seriously challenging our faith.

"I copied so many people on my response to her" is easily a firable thing. I've fired people for less disruptive behavior and never regretted the decision. At least, that email alone warrants labelling you as a potential problem child worthy of extra micromanagement. Problem children, unlike most workers, who do idiotic things like that tend to not be well integrated into the social fabric and daily operations of the company and are easily replaced, even if they are otherwise very competent.

You need to think hard about whether you fit that description. If you do, you need to re-evaluate your choices and attitudes.
01-23-2018 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Welp Two days, one of which was a Sunday...
It is so freaking hard. She is constantly doing something and manipulating.

I didn't mention that during our going over the metrics and reviews she started changing the metric percentages and deleted one out, then told me to complete the self assessment. You have to do an assessment for each metric. When I opened it, the one that she deleted and said the plant manager wasn't using or something was back on the list and so I deleted. She emails me a little later and says "You can't delete metrics without Xs approval" like I was doing it on my own.
What? I only deleted because she did and said X had removed it and told me to get things completed

She is constantly doing **** instead of just working.

Like every single day she is manipulating, constantly! It's ****ing exhausting.
01-23-2018 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
MLYLT: Considering how many of your tasks are communication oriented and your self-assessment that you're bad at communication, you need to get serious and honest feedback about how other people view your effectiveness.

The stuff you've been calling politics don't come close to being politics. These "incidents" sound like day to day interaction between employee and manager allocating work. People in this thread have given you tons of benefit of the doubt but you're seriously challenging our faith.

"I copied so many people on my response to her" is easily a firable thing. I've fired people for less disruptive behavior and never regretted the decision. At least, that email alone warrants labelling you as a potential problem child worthy of extra micromanagement. Problem children, unlike most workers, who do idiotic things like that tend to not be well integrated into the social fabric and daily operations of the company and are easily replaced, even if they are otherwise very competent.

You need to think hard about whether you fit that description. If you do, you need to re-evaluate your choices and attitudes.
I did this and got some really good feedback from the Engineering manager this morning and some things I can work on. He called me out on something lol, but that's good and I know where to focus my energy on improving.

I also approached my boss about what she had said to the production supervisor yesterday. I just told her that I think there was a misunderstanding, I wasn't accusatory, but got my point across that it could cause problems.

As far as being a potential problem child, yeah that really made me think about how I am being precieved. No one knows the day to day happenings between my boss and I, but when I say or do dumb stuff like that, it looks like I'm just airing dirty laundry and trying to stir up trouble.

I'm just going to keep my head down and stay really busy working and try to work on some of the things the engineering manager suggested and see how things improve.

Thanks grizy.
01-23-2018 , 12:04 PM
You guys still believe any of this stuff eh? This is soap opera quality writing from a mentally ill person. I'd concern troll but it sounds like you pylons might need each other.

      
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