MLY, you have two choices.

A: Cut calories by about 10% every two weeks, and you'll be rock star thin within a couple of years without any hunger pangs along the way.

B: Severely cut calories to like 1400 or w/e daily and suffer through the hunger adjustment until your body says, "Ok, cool. We'll survive" which will take a week or two, and then the hunger pangs will subside.

What's your choice? bdiddy gave you option B (with gross foods, tho).

I've been doing option b. This was just a rough month; my entire life has been completely turned upside down. I just need to get adjusted and into a routine. Going back to work next week will help a lot. I'll pack my breakfast and lunch, and then can cook dinner at night-pack leftovers for next days lunch. At the beginning of the month, I felt like my body was used to the lower calorie intake, I guess with the depression and stress I fell of the wagon for about 3 weeks.

most people just cook up their meals for the entire week since its all the same food it makes it easy to do

I'm using an ice chest ATM, but when I get a fridge, I can do that.

Sounds like a fancy way of calling it an ice dispenser

I'm going to keep beating this dead horse, but only because it entirely changed my life: I did option "B," minus the carbs (no rice and no potatoes), except instead of crappy chicken and carrots I ate this almost every day:

http://imgur.com/a/iDVlG

But not quite as fancy. I stocked up on cheap steak from Costco and Safeway, and grilled up a cheap sirloin every night. For salad, I bought bagged salad because I'm lazy, threw on shredded cheese, and topped with ranch dressing. Literally 3-4 days a week, that was my dinner. The other days were just as delicious and easy: usually an omelet or just eggs with a bunch of cheese, avocado, sausage, and bacon. Lunches were small, usually a chicken sausage and part of an avocado, maybe broccoli or cauliflower (pretty much all carbs were from veggies). On weekends when I had more time I'd cook something up a little different, maybe cauliflower fried rice, or a "keto" pizza.

People who does this will obsess over "macros" and "fat bombs" and ****, but the reason I loved it was because I loved the meals, and they kept me under 1400 calories (probably less; I think I was shooting for 1200), and I FELT FULL. That was really what made it work: I didn't feel full.

I also intermittent fasted, i.e., only ate between 1:30 and 8:30. I'm not sure how much that had to do with it, honestly, but it was super easy for me with what I was eating.

Final reason I loved that "diet": it got me off of bread/pasta/crap. Almost three years later, I don't have bread and pasta cravings, and I used to be the type that would request a second bread basket. A true lifestyle change. I am WAY more proud of the fact I've kept 70 pounds off for three years than the fact I lost 70 pounds in the first place.

So anyway, you do you, MLYLT. But I'm going to continue to suggest that "you" includes eating steak, bacon, and ranch dressing.

That seems good as well, we will see how she does on this and as she progresses she will likely drop the carbs and do some keto as well.

Wed log:

Cheese slice: 70

2 chocolate chip cookies: 100

8oz chicken breast:368

1 cup spinach: 7

1 cup green beans: 31

5tbs olive oil:119

Total: 695

I had another non hungry day where I had to force myself to eat the chicken. I didn't even eat one of my pre made meals until 2:00 and the next at 5:00. Wasn't hungry all morning or tonight.

5tbs of olive oil is about 600 calories.

I want you to win, so I took the time to weigh everything out for you so you can see how accurate counting is done. You have a scale now, so use it.

Ingredients:

chick pea (dry): 248g * 2.44c (calorie per gram) = 605 calories
black&kidney bean (dry): 367g * 1.84c = 675 calories
pasta variety (dry): 282g * 3.57c = 1007 calories
pepperoncini pepper: 78g * 0.33c = 26 calories
kalamata olive: 62g * 1.67c = 104 calories
black olive: 48g * 1.56c = 75 calories
red onion: 63g * 0.41c = 26 calories
hothouse cuc: 299g * 0.10c = 30 calories
bell pepper: 102g * 0.31c = 32 calories
balsamic dressing: 109g * 2c = 218 calories
deactivated yeast: 28g * 3.75c = 105 calories

tbsp is not tsp which I presume is what she meant. Although she's still off by nearly a factor of 2.

I hope this post has been helpful.

So instead of being off by 3 she's off by 2 based on an assumption? I think it could go either way, imo.

Well, 1 tablespoon of olive oil is 119 cals. Which is what she logged. So if you're assuming she had 5 tablespoons = 600 cals then what she logged is off by a factor of 5. (600/119 ~ 5)

I'm assuming she had 5 teaspoons. Since there are 3 teaspoons in tablespoon. She consumed 5/3 tablespoons of olive oil which is a off by a factor of 5/3 ((5/3*119)/119 = 198/119 ~ 1.6666666)

I'm assuming it's 5tsp rather than 5tbsp because that would be an insane amount of oil for a cup of beans. Would basically be green bean soup in oil.

mlylt - this is a pretty good example why people don't trust your food log.

If she comes back to post that she really did consume 5tbsp of oil I'll never open this thread again.

Call me autistic, but when someone writes tbs, tbl or tbsp, which all are standard accepted abbreviations of tablespoon, I don't assume they meant something else, particularly when they're close to 300 pounds.

I hope this post has been helpful.

LoL strengths:

[ ] Common Sense Assumptions
[ ] Math
[x] Derivative sarcasm

aiott strengths:

[x] tired check box memes

Allin, lol:

I figured she prob just used one tablespoon of oil and the 5 was a typo.

That's what I figured, too. The 5 teaspoons being 198, yet she had logged the same amount of calories for 1 tablespoon so she must be using 5 teaspoons, was pretty creative, though.

El D,

That makes even more sense than my assumption! You're as smart as everyone says you are.

It does beg the question however, how she managed that sort of error in talk to text.

LoL,

I'm sure that's exactly what you thought.

I highlighted it to draw attention to it for her, not for some nit to butt his nose in, hence the 5:1 you jocked all over. Yeah... I can't do simple math after giving an exact calorie count of a meal I put together of difficult to count items...

You highlighted a typo where she had the correct calorie count for her? How very helpful of you.

Be real LoL you really thought she had 5 tablespoons of oil. Then you ****ed up some math. Then you got mad on the internet. It's ok. It happens to all of us sometimes.

You are correct

Yes, it is helpful. It would be silly to make a concrete assumption that her calories are correct and that she made a typo with the measurements, particularly since she's having great difficulty in losing any weight and she's a frickin engineer, ffs. Like, I could do that for every item she posts to get it to fit with her listed calories, but that ain't going to help her lose weight.

Sorry, son, but she said 5 tablespoons of oil was 119, and I told her 5 tablespoons is around 600. Obviously since I know how many calories are in 5 tbs, I know how many are in 1 tbs so that would be the most obvious typo to consider first since the calories are correct for 1 tbs. I figured there is also about a 5% chance that she actually used 5 tbs of oil to fry her chicken and veggies and her typo was to not multiply by 5. Teaspoons did not cross my mind, though.

Since she was still using cups and tbs for measurements, though, I showed her how she could precisely weigh everything very easily in an attempt to get her to actually use her scale. When you came up with the typo being teaspoons and douched out with the "hope this post helps" when that typo doesn't even result in the calories being correct, I responded accordingly.

That said, you nitting this up is actually useful. She probably wouldn't be able to divide calories by grams and multiply calories per gram by weighed servings accurately for each item she eats since a one-step process is causing her issues as it is, so she should probably just pitch the scale or give it to a neighbor or something.

Thurs log:

1 slice bread: 70

1/2 cup white gravy: 94

1 banana: 115

1/4 lb cheeseburger: 552

Total: 831

It's called a Quarter Pounder w/ Cheese, MLY

Bread dipped in gravy and a cheeseburger, 831! lol Literally the only thing you ate today that wasn't complete garbage was the banana. Dat potassiyum tho.

I'm confident she has some good rational arguments for why this diet is better than Bdiddy's