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05-14-2017 , 06:51 AM

Tx God!
Some humor is here.
05-14-2017 , 09:05 AM
TIL Thremp enjoys both troll farming and also lightly peacocking about how great his life is. In other news, water is still wet. More breaking news as it happens.
05-14-2017 , 09:13 AM
lightly pea-cocking? Dinner with supermodels bro.
05-14-2017 , 09:20 AM
Lapka posts on This Is Thin Privilege, is what I gather here.
05-14-2017 , 09:55 AM
Nope, but tx for the hint. I do find this blog not bad.

I don't know .... I am opposed to fat shaming, because it makes so much damage and not only in fat people, but I am also not so fan of "fat is beautiful". I think in both directions the emphasis is somehow on the wrong thing.

I find much more interesting the theme " How to achieve the compliance?" This identification of the factors that do regulate food intake and finding ways to regulate them.

I read here somewhere something like: you could eat 1000 ckal of sugar, sit on your butt and lose weight. I don't think you can have good compliance on such kind of life style.
05-14-2017 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoken
I don't care for thremp either, but e-stalking and revealing forum posters personal details in a public space or otherwise talking about their personal lives in invasive ways is wrong.
Lets clarify that I didn't attempt to investigate anything about SensitiveSingh's life other than what he posted literally on this subforum.

Unless you're actively trying to harm me or other people I don't really care.

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Originally Posted by Evoken
lightly pea-cocking? Dinner with supermodels bro.
I don't think I've dined with any that were full time past like 20 or something. That becomes a somewhat awkward life path. Prob about the same as your attempts to get an advanced degree. Find yourself somewhat old with no relevant work experience and limited employment options.

lapka,

Did you just say that you would dox someone because they said something you didn't like or agreed with?
05-14-2017 , 10:04 AM
I'm curious whether people here think morbid obesity, smoking or functional alcoholism is worse.

I think one of those is egregiously worse than the others. But society condones it much more. That is what is utterly strange about the issue.
05-14-2017 , 10:21 AM
Are we talking about literal supermodels or just really attractive models?
05-14-2017 , 10:23 AM
Were they published on facebook or instagram?
05-14-2017 , 10:24 AM
BGP,

I assume that question was a research request for lapka?
05-14-2017 , 10:31 AM
I don't know if I've been in a room with anyone who I'd consider (or anyone else) a "supermodel".
05-14-2017 , 10:36 AM
I'm eager for us to rehash the spergy discussion where people kick multimillionaire lingerie models out of bed for mattiecakessss.

Need to bring QB back tho. He was always a strong apologist for not outkicking your coverage.
05-14-2017 , 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lapka
I read here somewhere something like: you could eat 1000 ckal of sugar, sit on your butt and lose weight. I don't think you can have good compliance on such kind of life style.
Just because you 'don't think you can have good compliance' doesn't make it not true.

Compliance is essentially just WIM and willpower. It's incredibly simple to lose weight, just as it's incredibly simple to gain weight.

There are numerous examples of this. Most recently on the abs and ice cream youtube channel where someone lost 20+lbs in 100 days while eating nothing but ice cream. Compliance wasn't an issue for him, just as it isn't for a lot of people on this forum.
05-14-2017 , 11:10 AM
I think one of the biggest mistakes I made in my training career was doing basically 0 cardio other than the first ~18 months and the first half of 2015. Cardio's pretty good.
05-14-2017 , 11:22 AM
Willpower is a pretty tricky thing to pin down. Those with really strong willpower are often people with just really good habits, and habits aren't really a conscious choice they're just something you do. Vice versa, people with low willpower are often people who are just total messes and are basically hanging on by a thread day to day. They can't keep their house in order and they have no budget and their mail is not taken care of in a timely manner. So they make a billion small conscious decisions daily because they have no autopilot (except maybe eating whatever gives them 10 minutes of relief from their hectic day).

And food addiction is definitely a thing and for some willpower is enough to break it, and for others a more solid plan is required.

What isn't required is for everyone to sugarcoat everything lest lapka have a panic attack.
05-14-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Willpower is a pretty tricky thing to pin down. Those with really strong willpower are often people with just really good habits, and habits aren't really a conscious choice they're just something you do.
Do you have a more concrete example of this? On the surface I get it, people with their **** together typically have fewer small items weighing on their mind each day, meaning their levels of willpower are higher. I don't necessarily agree with the concept of they "just do it" though.

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Vice versa, people with low willpower are often people who are just total messes and are basically hanging on by a thread day to day. They can't keep their house in order and they have no budget and their mail is not taken care of in a timely manner. So they make a billion small conscious decisions daily because they have no autopilot (except maybe eating whatever gives them 10 minutes of relief from their hectic day).
This I totally agree with though. These decisions deplete their willpower resources and some research by Roy Bauemeister (et. al.) linking blood glucose to willpower, which also explains some of these terrible food choices.

Great read on the general topic: https://www.myosynthesis.com/brain-states-willpower
05-14-2017 , 12:27 PM
Thanks for the link fredd.

Agree with KC. I would subscribe to his newsletter.
05-14-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
lapka,

Did you just say that you would dox someone because they said something you didn't like or agreed with?
No.

My not liking or agreeing with anything has nothing to do with that. How long do you think would I survive on the internet, if I would go for everyone with different opinion? But your intention to hurt me has everything to do with it.
Don't go for me if you don't want a flaming war.

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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale
Just because you 'don't think you can have good compliance' doesn't make it not true.

Compliance is essentially just WIM and willpower. It's incredibly simple to lose weight, just as it's incredibly simple to gain weight.

There are numerous examples of this. Most recently on the abs and ice cream youtube channel where someone lost 20+lbs in 100 days while eating nothing but ice cream. Compliance wasn't an issue for him, just as it isn't for a lot of people on this forum.
What is WIM?

I agree with kidcollin and fredd on will-power. I do think that will-power is one of the weakest factors in food-intake regulation. I have thought about what is the difference between me an M. And one thing is, just that I have a habit of cooking and not eating out. It doesn't require any effort, it is just my routine. Will power is not involved in this.

But I mean there are other things beyond will-power and habit. I mean for many food serves for stress regulation. One of the things to improve compliance would be to look for different ways to regulate stress.
05-14-2017 , 12:51 PM
Thanks fredd, that was a great read.
05-14-2017 , 12:57 PM
It is flame war.

How could you possibly draw the conclusion that I'm trying to hurt you? Out of all the fringe crazy stuff you said, that is probably the most bizarre.
05-14-2017 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
BGP,

I assume that question was a research request for lapka?
Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm afraid I'll have to let you down: I'm far too lazy to read any research, even if they've been posted on such esteemed platforms. I was looking for the supermodels.
05-14-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lapka

What is WIM?

I agree with kidcollin and fredd on will-power. I do think that will-power is one of the weakest factors in food-intake regulation. I have thought about what is the difference between me an M. And one thing is, just that I have a habit of cooking and not eating out. It doesn't require any effort, it is just my routine. Will power is not involved in this.

But I mean there are other things beyond will-power and habit. I mean for many food serves for stress regulation. One of the things to improve compliance would be to look for different ways to regulate stress.

WIM is 'want it more'. Common terminology around here. How bad do you actually want to reach your goal?

The article/studies are interesting, but of course it does leave room still for people who may just be lazy, as noted in the text.

I disagree regarding "will-power is one of the weakest factors in food-intake regulation"; however, for obvious reasons. The food we put in our mouth is a choice.

Taking the research, as well as your self described difference between you an MLY, essentially being habit. We all know there are ways to help ingrain habits, and there are tons of resources for that very thing. Habits, priorities, etc... Hell, people have even attempted and offered to make her a meal plan, all she had to do was prep and eat it. No thought involved at all as to what goes in your mouth. I don't think she made it one day.

Why doesn't she attempt to establish a habit(s) similar to yours? Why doesn't she take advantage of the resources available to help with this? Why does she ignore the daily advice?

WIM, imo.
05-14-2017 , 01:13 PM
@M05

Duuuuude.......
That you can tell to someone outside this forums.

Your first remark about not talking to fat women
Your not apologizing after I said that it was a dick move
Your repeated invitation of me to LC to troll me
Your word choice in that I am having a mental illness + that I am on morally low road

And the last one, that is an epitome of your crap: implying that you didn't intent to hurt me and trying to go for me in the next sentence.

You are an insecure dude with autistic tendencies whom no one likes. You had been fat in the past and may be you have trained you a hot body, but it doesn't help, still no one likes you. And especially not women.
05-14-2017 , 01:15 PM
Oh great, now KC is yelling at me to open my mail. And let's be honest, isn't it really "OldManColin" now?
05-14-2017 , 01:22 PM
@M05
You might be good at math and still no one likes you. You try so hard to show everything you think is needed to be liked and it doesn't work. Something is missing. So that you spent your evenings getting hammered.


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Originally Posted by lapka
Ohhh.... boy.

I definitely have disturbed relationship with food. I am not sure that that is this Orthorexia, and it is actually to extended topic for LC. You are welcome to have a look in my log.

Do you want to say that you do have a SO or don't have a boss? Or that you don't masturbate? Or that having a lot of beers is also a part of competition diet? Or that you never had been banned here?

And all my points were fully intended to be hurtful to you. I wanted to kick your butt for not talking to fat women. That has nothing to do with moral high road. Just no way. Moral high road ..... Naahhhh .... That is not me.
Something at this post has railed you up. What was it?
Me not fitting in your trolling scheme? I mean you have expected me denying that I have mental illness and apologizing for hurting you. And I didn't.
Or my questions?

      
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